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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 9:27:28 GMT
vimeo.com/316346985This was such a cool men’s study on really loving our wives. Secular liberals and such will hate it but who cares? As a guy who wants to simply walk with the Lord I think it’s beautiful. Be blessed
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 24, 2019 12:27:26 GMT
The verses in question
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 24, 2019 12:32:40 GMT
I hope you don't think this idiot is the real Sailor J from the old board.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 24, 2019 12:34:54 GMT
I hope you don't think this idiot is the real Sailor J from the old board. I would have posted the verses mentioned in a thread title regardless of who it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 17:55:00 GMT
Very nice to have the verse out like that... The study is wonderful. A different perspective than usual.
...and yes- I am the guy from the old boards... I was called way worse than idiot back then...
I don't care much for this newer format but I read now and the to see what's up... nothing much new.
Anyway- great scripture...
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Post by rizdek on Feb 25, 2019 22:46:21 GMT
As far as I can tell the only place it talks about what the man should do is...
28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:
verse 31 one instructs someone to "honor her" but it doesn't really instruct the husband to honor her...it seems to relate to how her works bring her praise at the city gate.
Not really much about instructing men to love their wives or telling men to walk with the Lord. Other scriptures do a better job of telling a man how to love his wife. This just puts requirements on the woman so she doesn't embarrass her husband at the city gates.
This site gives a much better selection of scriptures
But I can see how this site's advice might be an embarrassment to someone who doesn't honor his marriage vows...like someone we all know. I won't mention his name, but his initials are Donald Trump, who the evangelicals all seem to love.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 25, 2019 23:07:46 GMT
As far as I can tell the only place it talks about what the man should do is...
28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:
verse 31 one instructs someone to "honor her" but it doesn't really instruct the husband to honor her...it seems to relate to how her works bring her praise at the city gate.
Not really much about instructing men to love their wives or telling men to walk with the Lord. Other scriptures do a better job of telling a man how to love his wife. This just puts requirements on the woman so she doesn't embarrass her husband at the city gates.
This site gives a much better selection of scriptures
But I can see how this site's advice might be an embarrassment to someone who doesn't honor his marriage vows...like someone we all know. I won't mention his name, but his initials are Donald Trump, who the evangelicals all seem to love.
It isn;t the job of those verses to tell the husband to do anything although I can't see how praising her or having full confidence in her are not signs of love.
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Post by rizdek on Feb 25, 2019 23:44:14 GMT
As far as I can tell the only place it talks about what the man should do is...
28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:
verse 31 one instructs someone to "honor her" but it doesn't really instruct the husband to honor her...it seems to relate to how her works bring her praise at the city gate.
Not really much about instructing men to love their wives or telling men to walk with the Lord. Other scriptures do a better job of telling a man how to love his wife. This just puts requirements on the woman so she doesn't embarrass her husband at the city gates.
This site gives a much better selection of scriptures
But I can see how this site's advice might be an embarrassment to someone who doesn't honor his marriage vows...like someone we all know. I won't mention his name, but his initials are Donald Trump, who the evangelicals all seem to love.
It isn;t the job of those verses to tell the husband to do anything although I can't see how praising her or having full confidence in her are not signs of love. Well, may be praising her implies love...but I praise a lot of people who I don't love. But I agree this scripture isn't about how a man should live his wife.
But I was just following along with the OP who said
"This was such a cool men’s study on really loving our wives." And I pointed out that there are far better scriptures if the goal is to find out what the God of the Bible thought about how a man should live his wife.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 26, 2019 21:27:47 GMT
A necessary corrective to all that has gone before: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house, you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male slave, his female slave, his ox, his donkey or anything which belongs to your neighbor” (Exodus 20:17; Deuteronomy 5:21). Because the Ten Commandments are so well known, it’s quite easy to miss the assumptions in them about gender. There is no commandment against rape (nor child abuse either come to that), since the Lord presumably finds assuaging his ego and ruling out graven images etc as a more pressing matter. But, when mentioned at all, the marginalization of women is clear. The wife is classified as her husband’s property, and so she’s listed with the slaves and work-animals. There’s also a striking, but entirely characteristic omission in this commandment: never does it say “You shall not covet your neighbor’s husband.” Yes, there were biblical women who flourished in spite of the contemporary patriarchy, women like Ruth, Esther, Lydia and Priscilla. But women in the Bible were normally viewed as second class, if even that.
There are even more difficult texts, not just about wives but in connection with women more generally, with men said to be willing to surrender women to horrendous violence. For example, Genesis says the patriarch Lot was willing to force his two daughters out the door to be raped, and the book of Judges says a Levite actually did force his concubine out the door to be gang raped, and after she died he cut her corpse into twelve pieces (Genesis 34; Judges 19-21). And an unmarried woman could be compelled to marry her rapist, as long as the rapist could pay the standard bride price and the woman’s father was comfortable with the marriage (Deuteronomy 22:28-29; Exodus 22:16-17). And some fathers were comfortable, if Jacob is any indication (Genesis 34). And polygamy (a man having multiple wives) was approved of (Genesis 4:19-24; Deuteronomy 21:15; 2 Samuel 3:2-5). Some narratives even have wives referring to their husbands as “lord,” such as Sarah in Genesis 18:12. And a woman’s religious vow could be nullified by her father or her husband (Numbers 30:3-15). Let us not forget either the, apparently justified, use of rape as an act of war as God occasionally commands. Within the “Household Codes” of the New Testament, husbands are commanded to “love their wives” and to avoid treating them “harshly,” but women are commanded to “submit to” their husbands (Colossians 3:18-19; Ephesians 5:22-25). And so on. Of course it is unwise to judge primitive culture by modern standards. But when we are asked to judge modern societies by the measures laid down by distant, early communities, as we typically are by the sanctimonious and devoutly-challenged, then it seems fair to make a point of it by way of return.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 15:00:12 GMT
Brett does a great job going over how men can use the chapter to really adjust how they live as husbands. Also- most of the time we can see a spiritual reality using the types in scripture. As the church is the bride of Christ this is how He sees us because we are robed in His righteousness. Really such a cool life and an even more amazing eternity.
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