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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 17:22:15 GMT
That's also kind of her point: Why shouldn't there be a Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel movie? Or a Rey in Star Wars? Why should superhero movies be only for male movie goers? No men ever complained about female lead Alien, Aliens, or The Terminator. If a great female lead movie gets made, men love it and don't complain, that's how this works. If Brie knew anything about sci fi and superhero movies, she would know this. Of course they complain. They just veil it by calling them Mary Sues. The prejudice is there. They just disguise it with tin-pot academia.
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Post by johnspartan on Feb 27, 2019 17:28:16 GMT
No men ever complained about female lead Alien, Aliens, or The Terminator. If a great female lead movie gets made, men love it and don't complain, that's how this works. If Brie knew anything about sci fi and superhero movies, she would know this. Of course they complain. They just veil it by calling them Mary Sues. The prejudice is there. They just disguise it with tin-pot academia. I've never seen Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner or Princess Leia called Mary Sues and if I ever did I would argue fiercley.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 17:39:27 GMT
Of course they complain. They just veil it by calling them Mary Sues. The prejudice is there. They just disguise it with tin-pot academia. I've never seen Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner or Princess Leia called Mary Sues and if I ever did I would argue fiercley. I think that's a matter of personal preference. Usually when people call female characters Mary Sues, they compare them to other characters they don't consider Mary Sues.
It's not like I want people to start calling Ripley or Sara Connor Mary Sues, but technically, only personal preference and maybe a touch of nostalgia is stopping them. I consider it more lucky than anything they haven't been.
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Post by johnspartan on Feb 27, 2019 17:42:36 GMT
I've never seen Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner or Princess Leia called Mary Sues and if I ever did I would argue fiercley. I think that's a matter of personal preference. Usually when people call female characters Mary Sues, they compare them to other characters they don't consider Mary Sues.
It's not like I want people to start calling Ripley or Sara Connor Mary Sues, but technically, only personal preference and maybe a touch of nostalgia is stopping them. I consider it more lucky than anything they haven't been.
No luck involved. They are well written, quality female characters in high quality timeless movies. Plain and simple.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 27, 2019 17:48:43 GMT
I don't need a 30 year old white girl complaining about not enough women and diversity in superhero movies, they're not made for THEM! How about that, Brie? That's also kind of her point: Why shouldn't there be a Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel movie? Or a Rey in Star Wars? Why should superhero movies be only for male movie goers? Has anybody actually said that there should not be a Wonder Woman movie or a Captain Marvel movie or a Rey in Star Wars ? Well i guess some people have, but is this the opinion of most people ?
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Post by Vits on Feb 27, 2019 21:01:36 GMT
There once was a time when most actors had enough sense to keep their idiotic political views to themselves, that way half their audience wouldn't be alienated. Anyone who refuses to see a movie just because they're against the actor's personal views (even if they have nothing to do with the movie) is the idiotic one. What exactly was wrong with what she said?  Just because there should be more diversity among critics, it doesn't mean white men's opinions don't matter. And there's no such thing as movies being for a specific gender/race. That's actually more insulting to minorities. It's like saying that their standards are low enough to like bad movies.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 27, 2019 21:52:30 GMT
I am thinking how bad the casting would be if she was chosen for a HUNDRA remake.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 27, 2019 21:59:44 GMT
Do you ever comment on politics? If so, maybe you should stick to whatever it is you do and leave the political comments for the politicians. This is a good point, i have also noticed that people only complain if the actor has a political view that is different from their own. If an actor as the same political view they don`t mind that the actor is political. Everybody can comment on politics even actors. Sure, everybody has a right to their opinion, but there’s a difference between a regular person saying something silly to their family or friends or a celebrity saying something in public which is instantly going to reach millions of people.
In this case it’s not so much WHAT Larson said, but HOW she said it. She could’ve easily phrased it politely: I disagree with this person’s view, A Wrinkle In Time is a great movie that does not deserve such unfair criticism, and so on…
But no, she had to be mean and insulting by generalising and calling out older white people. She could’ve heave kept her statement positive by saying: I love A Wrinkle In Time, it’s excellent, I wish you would appreciate it too. Instead what she’s basically saying is: If you are a white person of a certain age you have no right to criticize movies made by female black filmmakers. – Which to me comes over as incredibly arrogant.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 27, 2019 22:07:47 GMT
This is a good point, i have also noticed that people only complain if the actor has a political view that is different from their own. If an actor as the same political view they don`t mind that the actor is political. Everybody can comment on politics even actors. Sure, everybody has a right to their opinion, but there’s a difference between a regular person saying something silly to their family or friends or a celebrity saying something in public which is instantly going to reach millions of people.
In this case it’s not so much WHAT Larson said, but HOW she said it. She could’ve easily phrased it politely: I disagree with this person’s view, A Wrinkle In Time is a great movie that does not deserve such unfair criticism, and so on…
But no, she had to be mean and insulting by generalising and calling out older white people. She could’ve heave kept her statement positive by saying: I love A Wrinkle In Time, it’s excellent, I wish you would appreciate it too. Instead what she’s basically saying is: If you are a white person of a certain age you have no right to criticize movies made by female black filmmakers. – Which to me comes over as incredibly arrogant. People on the right do the same thing when they write off every success by women and minorities as "forced diversity", "virtue signaling", "boosters", etc. They shouldn't dish what they can't take. |
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Post by poes on Feb 27, 2019 22:21:45 GMT
A crowdfunding effort to pay for free theater screenings of “Captain Marvel” for girls and young women has now raised more than $60,000, three times its original goal.
Variety
HA HA HA SO INCLUSIVE
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Post by poes on Feb 27, 2019 22:29:04 GMT
A wrinkle in time: seems nobody showed up, at least not overseas.
USA 100 million
Overseas 32 million
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Post by kingslayer on Feb 27, 2019 22:32:13 GMT
A Wrinkle In Time was a terrible movie anyway, don't care who it was "aimed at" when the plot and dialogue and acting was so horrendous. Can't imagine any ethnicity giving any of that a pass.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 28, 2019 0:20:47 GMT
I don't need a 30 year old white girl complaining about not enough women and diversity in superhero movies, they're not made for THEM! How about that, Brie? Lol at dudes wanting superhero movies to be sausage parties.
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Post by PresidentofChad on Feb 28, 2019 7:40:55 GMT
She's sassy! It only makes me like her more! Agree! Women like that have lots of energy once you get them in bed. You sound like a Chad, like me, The President of CHAD
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 28, 2019 10:07:23 GMT
She's sassy! It only makes me like her more! Agree! Women like that have lots of energy once you get them in bed. You sound like a Chad, like me, The President of CHAD So whats is it like to be the fake president of a country that nobody gives a shit about ?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 28, 2019 10:22:54 GMT
Can't stand her. She is plain as day and has a typical short-sighted and distorted feminist approach to things. Her career will go kaput soon and her Oscar win was just a fluke in a year of weak contenders.
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Post by Marv on Feb 28, 2019 10:34:19 GMT
Funny thing...the only person I know personally that was excited for the Wrinkle in Time movie, was a 40 year old white guy. He read the book in elementary school and loved it and couldn’t wait for this movie to come out.
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Post by sostie on Feb 28, 2019 10:34:59 GMT
That's also kind of her point: Why shouldn't there be a Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel movie? Or a Rey in Star Wars? Why should superhero movies be only for male movie goers? No men ever complained about female lead Alien, Aliens, or The Terminator. If a great female lead movie gets made, men love it and don't complain, that's how this works. If Brie knew anything about sci fi and superhero movies, she would know this. And how do you know it would not have been the case if those films were released at a time where there was mass & social meia and the WWW.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 28, 2019 10:40:46 GMT
She has a right to say what she wants, but what she said was a bit ridiculous IMO...only the people the movie (or art) is aimed at are "allowed" to critique it.
It's almost as bad as people who say "well, you couldn't do any better" when someone criticizes something, implying only people capable of working in a particular medium are "allowed" to critique it.
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Post by PresidentofChad on Feb 28, 2019 19:49:35 GMT
Agree! Women like that have lots of energy once you get them in bed. You sound like a Chad, like me, The President of CHADSo whats is it like to be the fake president of a country that nobody gives a shit about ? What's it like to be a jealous beta cuck who takes petty swipes at Chads on the internet in a futile attempt to feel better about himself?
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