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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 3, 2019 0:37:32 GMT
He might be all powerful but he’s not THAT all powerful. ...'all powerfulish'? Hmm, tricky. There is the danger of me reading that as “power-flush”. 
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 3, 2019 0:44:54 GMT
Neither did you say " if God gave us a brain ..". lol But, such semantics aside, if you are now suggesting that you don't know God gave us a brain, how do you know what He wants done with it? Nobody KNOWS anything when it comes to God or religion. It is all just a matter of what one chooses to believe. In which case then one cannot know what an alleged god supposedly expects of the brain. QED.
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Post by goz on Mar 3, 2019 0:52:12 GMT
Hmm, tricky. There is the danger of me reading that as “power-flush”. I prefer 'natural' methods! 
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 3, 2019 0:57:16 GMT
So billions of people will just have to suffer in the meantime. Nobody has to suffer. Its a test. Will you follow God? Or Satan? Given that you have, just earlier, on this thread told me that 'nobody KNOWS anything when it comes to God or religion' then any such test is moot. But then again, when you also say 'nobody has to suffer. Its a test' it sounds firm and much more than one 'just choosing what to believe'. You can see how confusion might arise with those seeking consistency.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 3, 2019 0:57:42 GMT
And like I said before, I appreciate the difference between the alleged word of God and the words of men. But if we follow the logic of your argument then we don't know God 'created the brain which He wants us to use' either since Genesis, with its overarching account of creation, was as part of the Bible also written by men.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 3, 2019 0:59:54 GMT
Hmm, tricky. There is the danger of me reading that as “power-flush”. I prefer 'natural' methods! Dana Andrews said prunes gave him the runes, and passing them used lots of skills.
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Post by Vegas on Mar 3, 2019 1:01:55 GMT
To answer, "Why does God permit evil?", why don't you just say, "Because he does! You just want a different story!" That's your reliable go to when you have no real answer.
I gave you my answer.... You just cry about everything. Ooooorrr.... He thought that the question was important enough... just like I said.  You really do just make a point to cry about the stupidest shit.   ...and even if God did view Satan as important enough.. The story ends with God killing Satan.... So.. He must not care that much about him. When has anybody ever citing a scripture ever stopped you from crying about your stupid shit... EVER?  It never has... Seemingly, it never will. And yes, dipshit.. It's pretty much the story of Genesis... and the entire Bible... and a lot of theologians kinda know this already. Hell, I'd say most probably do to some degree or another... They mostly just question the actual depths of suffering that we will be allowed to go through... and also, personal tragedy will always be questioned by the most faithful of adherents.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:06:36 GMT
Nobody has to suffer. Its a test. Will you follow God? Or Satan? Why is it either or or? Isn't that limiting? Its not either/or. You can do both or nothing. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:07:29 GMT
He will. Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire after the thousand year reign with Christ. Sorry, I don't 'get' this. Where is the 'lake of fire'? ...and when is 'after the thousand year reign of Christ'? Wasn't that in approx. 1,032AD? I think he meant metaphorically. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 3, 2019 1:11:52 GMT
Why is it either or or? Isn't that limiting? Its not either/or. You can do both or nothing. What is doing nothing? Isn't doing nothing, doing something? Therefore, doing both or nothing, is still doing something. The rest just boils down to personal ideals and what and where are these?
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Post by Vegas on Mar 3, 2019 1:12:36 GMT
If God is omniscient, how are there any questions that need to be answered? The answers aren't for Him. They're for the rest of creation.... and possible future creations Here's where I love you dipshits... If God just said "FUCK YOU, SATAN AND ADAM & EVE... HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY AUTHORITY??!!" and just obliterated them on the spot..    You'd be the first ones bitching about how God is a tyrant for crushing the rebellion with an iron fist without proving them wrong.  - "WHY? THAT'S WHAT DICTATORS DO! TYRANNY!! TYRANNY, I SAY!!"
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Post by goz on Mar 3, 2019 1:13:57 GMT
Sorry, I don't 'get' this. Where is the 'lake of fire'? ...and when is 'after the thousand year reign of Christ'? Wasn't that in approx. 1,032AD? I think he meant metaphorically. Thanks, meaning what? Sorry I am not 'in' on the metaphor!
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:14:42 GMT
Its not either/or. You can do both or nothing. What is doing nothing? Isn't doing nothing, doing something? Therefore, doing both or nothing, is still doing something. The rest just boils down to personal ideals and what and where are these? Doing nothing in this case would be to consciously decide not to follow either God or Satan. Like an Atheist. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:15:57 GMT
I think he meant metaphorically. Thanks, meaning what? Sorry I am not 'in' on the metaphor! The "thousand year reign" means "for a long time". Not exactly one thousand years. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:19:34 GMT
Nobody KNOWS anything when it comes to God or religion. It is all just a matter of what one chooses to believe. In which case then one cannot know what an alleged god supposedly expects of the brain. QED. Exactly. Faith and knowledge are two different things. That is why believers say "You gotta believe". |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:21:04 GMT
Nobody has to suffer. Its a test. Will you follow God? Or Satan? Given that you have, just earlier, on this thread told me that 'nobody KNOWS anything when it comes to God or religion' then any such test is moot. But then when you say 'nobody has to suffer. Its a test' it sounds definite and much more than you 'just choosing what to believe'. You can see how confusion might arise with those seeking consistency. Absolutely. It is confusing. Choosing to believe in God was never meant to be easy. It's a test. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 3, 2019 1:22:16 GMT
What is doing nothing? Isn't doing nothing, doing something? Therefore, doing both or nothing, is still doing something. The rest just boils down to personal ideals and what and where are these? Doing nothing in this case would be to consciously decide not to follow either God or Satan. Like an Atheist. Atheism is just an ideal as well and contains the notion of theist belief, in order to refute it.
To do nothing in regards to a theist belief is too much of an abstract to comprehend, and is meaningless. It is all nothing and everything, regardless of belief. It doesn't matter what one believes, because the belief itself isn't real.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:24:51 GMT
Doing nothing in this case would be to consciously decide not to follow either God or Satan. Like an Atheist. Atheism is just an ideal as well and contains the notion of theist belief, in order to refute it.
To do nothing in regards to a theist belief is too much of an abstract to comprehend, and is meaningless. It is all nothing and everything, regardless of belief. It doesn't matter what one believes, because the belief itself isn't real.
I disagree. Belief is absolutely real. You are correct. Its abstract. But real none the less. If you are looking for proof God exists, you are wasting your time. There is no proof. That would be easy. Faith is hard. Its a test. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 3, 2019 1:26:24 GMT
Atheism is just an ideal as well and contains the notion of theist belief, in order to refute it.
To do nothing in regards to a theist belief is too much of an abstract to comprehend, and is meaningless. It is all nothing and everything, regardless of belief. It doesn't matter what one believes, because the belief itself isn't real.
I disagree. Belief is absolutely real. You are correct. Its abstract. But real none the less.
If you are looking for proof God exists, you are wasting your time. There is no proof. That would be easy. Faith is hard. Its a test.
Real for whom?
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Post by movieliker on Mar 3, 2019 1:28:25 GMT
I disagree. Belief is absolutely real. You are correct. Its abstract. But real none the less.
If you are looking for proof God exists, you are wasting your time. There is no proof. That would be easy. Faith is hard. Its a test.
Real for whom?
Anybody capable of accepting reality. |
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