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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 27, 2019 22:24:56 GMT
Supposedly it’s Paul Charles Dozsa. Dozsa was a chess champion from Hungary who was a bit eccentric and had a long criminal history including over 150 dine and dash cases. He was a scam artist.
But in every discussion on various forums that I’ve read, someone who met Dozsa or played a game of chess with him says that it is not him, and that it’s a recreation.
There’s photos of Dozsa online and my opinion is that it could indeed be him. Plus if it’s a re-enactment, it’s a very good one. But who’s the actor, and what was the production? A show like that couldn’t simply disappear from everyone’s memory, and I haven’t come across one person naming the original source. It seems to be filmed in a two camera set up, as there is a cut from one camera to another. But this could be accounted for as edited by police or news channel. Maybe the police wanted to record his arrest as he may have had a history of false accusations against police.
Any ideas?
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 27, 2019 22:27:38 GMT
Nalkarj, can you settle this baffling mystery?
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 28, 2019 1:21:11 GMT
That’s so bizarre (and bizarrely funny), Power Ranger. The man in the video doesn’t look much like Paul Charles Dozsa in The Canberra Times here, I think. (And, if he is Dozsa, he seems to have completely repressed his Hungarian accent; he sounds mostly British, with a touch of Aussie, at least to me.) I definitely see five cuts, but is it possible there are three cameras? Unless Camera 2 moves closer in the interim? (0:57 is closer than 0:33.) I’m trying to find examples where someone says it’s a re-enactment. Do you have links?
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 28, 2019 1:31:23 GMT
I found one. Hm. Oh, and let me tag the real super-sleuth around these parts: @forceghostackbar, we’re needed! (Now why can’t Mrs. Peel pop up when I say that?)
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 28, 2019 1:55:44 GMT
OK. So the Paul Charles Dozsa in the Canberra Times article I linked above looks like this Paul Charles Dozsa, who is confirmed to be the Hungaro-Australian chess master: I’m going to conclude they’re the same person. ∴ The chess-player was arrested in ’95, at the age of 45, for not paying for hotel- and restaurant-bills. To me he doesn’t look like the man in the video: Interestingly, according to that Times, “Dozsa claims…a television current affairs program has offered to pay him to write a book on Australian restaurants and jails.” Wait, one sec. Someone on the YouTube video claims the man is John Richard Bartlett, who was a member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly. I’ll be honest, Bartlett looks a bit like our man— —and Bartlett, while Australian, was born in England, as the accent indicates. With that said, I have no idea about the camera set-up. Let me look up if Bartlett was ever arrested or in a re-enactment.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 28, 2019 2:23:51 GMT
Power Ranger, I let the mystery-solving folks on Reddit know about this. I’ll let you know if anyone has any good leads.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 28, 2019 11:47:25 GMT
Nalkarj Those who say it’s a re-enactment are people who claim to have met Dosza. This indicates that the person behaves similarly to Dosza. I read in a chess forum that Dosza would boast of a martial arts prowess, for example. The photos look like they could match the person in the video. He’s a little fatter, but weight can fluctuate. And the ones who say they knew him never seem to say that they knew him at that time, but in the past. Likewise, I’m sceptical about the accent doubts. He may have had an accent in the 70s which he gradually lost. As to it being British, I attribute that to the theatrics. Either it’s Dosza, a similar criminal or a re-enactment. As to John Richard Bartlett, yeah, it does look like him. But I’ve seen no online evidence that he behaved this way. Maybe it’s an event that came before the internet and avoided it.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 28, 2019 19:28:49 GMT
Supposedly it’s Paul Charles Dozsa. Dozsa was a chess champion from Hungary who was a bit eccentric and had a long criminal history including over 150 dine and dash cases. He was a scam artist. But in every discussion on various forums that I’ve read, someone who met Dozsa or played a game of chess with him says that it is not him, and that it’s a recreation. There’s photos of Dozsa online and my opinion is that it could indeed be him. Plus if it’s a re-enactment, it’s a very good one. But who’s the actor, and what was the production? A show like that couldn’t simply disappear from everyone’s memory, and I haven’t come across one person naming the original source. It seems to be filmed in a two camera set up, as there is a cut from one camera to another. But this could be accounted for as edited by police or news channel. Maybe the police wanted to record his arrest as he may have had a history of false accusations against police. Any ideas? so wait the dude may not be the same guy what happened to original guy?.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 28, 2019 19:55:57 GMT
Supposedly it’s Paul Charles Dozsa. Dozsa was a chess champion from Hungary who was a bit eccentric and had a long criminal history including over 150 dine and dash cases. He was a scam artist. But in every discussion on various forums that I’ve read, someone who met Dozsa or played a game of chess with him says that it is not him, and that it’s a recreation. There’s photos of Dozsa online and my opinion is that it could indeed be him. Plus if it’s a re-enactment, it’s a very good one. But who’s the actor, and what was the production? A show like that couldn’t simply disappear from everyone’s memory, and I haven’t come across one person naming the original source. It seems to be filmed in a two camera set up, as there is a cut from one camera to another. But this could be accounted for as edited by police or news channel. Maybe the police wanted to record his arrest as he may have had a history of false accusations against police. Any ideas? so wait the dude may not be the same guy what happened to original guy?. The guy in the video? No one knows. Dosza? He died in 2003 at the age of 63.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 15, 2019 3:36:45 GMT
Precarious.
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 6, 2020 20:17:26 GMT
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 6, 2020 20:33:55 GMT
Seems to be. The interview with this guy should be interesting. The biggest question seems to be: what was the ‘succulent meal’ clip filmed for?
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 6, 2020 20:35:06 GMT
Supposedly it’s Paul Charles Dozsa. Dozsa was a chess champion from Hungary who was a bit eccentric and had a long criminal history including over 150 dine and dash cases. He was a scam artist. But in every discussion on various forums that I’ve read, someone who met Dozsa or played a game of chess with him says that it is not him, and that it’s a recreation. There’s photos of Dozsa online and my opinion is that it could indeed be him. Plus if it’s a re-enactment, it’s a very good one. But who’s the actor, and what was the production? A show like that couldn’t simply disappear from everyone’s memory, and I haven’t come across one person naming the original source. It seems to be filmed in a two camera set up, as there is a cut from one camera to another. But this could be accounted for as edited by police or news channel. Maybe the police wanted to record his arrest as he may have had a history of false accusations against police. Any ideas? "GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!!!".
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 6, 2020 20:40:16 GMT
Supposedly it’s Paul Charles Dozsa. Dozsa was a chess champion from Hungary who was a bit eccentric and had a long criminal history including over 150 dine and dash cases. He was a scam artist. But in every discussion on various forums that I’ve read, someone who met Dozsa or played a game of chess with him says that it is not him, and that it’s a recreation. There’s photos of Dozsa online and my opinion is that it could indeed be him. Plus if it’s a re-enactment, it’s a very good one. But who’s the actor, and what was the production? A show like that couldn’t simply disappear from everyone’s memory, and I haven’t come across one person naming the original source. It seems to be filmed in a two camera set up, as there is a cut from one camera to another. But this could be accounted for as edited by police or news channel. Maybe the police wanted to record his arrest as he may have had a history of false accusations against police. Any ideas? "GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!!!".
I hope #Metoo learn of this and he gets the justice he deserves.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 6, 2020 21:22:00 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 8, 2020 4:45:20 GMT
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2020 9:19:54 GMT
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2020 9:49:44 GMT
So IS his REAL NAME Jack (Something?) OR Cecil George Edwards?!?
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 9, 2020 12:49:54 GMT
So IS his REAL NAME Jack (Something?) OR Cecil George Edwards?!? That’s one of the mysteries still remaining.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 9, 2020 15:50:18 GMT
So IS his REAL NAME Jack (Something?) OR Cecil George Edwards?!? That’s one of the mysteries still remaining. This is a very satisfying development. It indicates that it was a real arrest and not a re-enactment. If he’s a real crim who was busted in a bungled sting this makes the story even funnier. But do police tip off the media for such a arrest? I’d like to hear the rest of the story but it sounds as though this guy wouldn’t know it so we’d need another source. Anyway expect this guy to become a celebrity. What a character.
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