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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:09:32 GMT
All-time Quarterback Ratings:
1, Aaron Rodgers 104.1
2, Russell Wilson 99.6
3, Tom Brady 97.2
4, Tony Romo 97.1
5, Steve Young 96.8
6, Payton Manning 96.5
7, Drew Brees 96.3
8, Phillip Rivers 94.7
9, Ben Rothlesberger 94.1
10, Kurt Warner 93.7
Begs the question, with Tony Romo almost tied with Brady, I don't buy the idea that he is too injury-prone therefore is just back-up material. I think he is being underestimated.
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Apr 4, 2017 2:14:08 GMT
QB Rating is a useless number all by itself ... it does not tell the whole story.
#14 ALL-TIME QB Rating - Chad Pennington ... HE is NOT the 14th best QB of All-time.
Tony Romo is NOT in the TOP 10 of ALL-TIME QB ... he is not even close.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 2:34:22 GMT
QB Rating is a useless number all by itself ... it does not tell the whole story. #14 ALL-TIME QB Rating - Chad Pennington ... HE is NOT the 14th best QB of All-time. Tony Romo is NOT in the TOP 10 of ALL-TIME QB ... he is not even close. Exceptions will exist but all ten QBs in my list are good ones. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 4, 2017 3:03:27 GMT
All-time Quarterback Ratings: 1, Aaron Rodgers 104.1 2, Russell Wilson 99.6 3, Tom Brady 97.2 4, Tony Romo 97.1 5, Steve Young 96.8 6, Payton Manning 96.5 7, Drew Brees 96.3 8, Phillip Rivers 94.7 9, Ben Rothlesberger 94.1 10, Kurt Warner 93.7 Begs the question, with Tony Romo almost tied with Brady, I don't buy the idea that he is too injury-prone therefore is just back-up material. I think he is being underestimated. Romo will probably be the starting QB for either Houston or Denverin 2017. People say Romo is old and injury-prone. But Houston had the #1 defense last season and has J.J. Watt coming back, and Denver is 2 years removed from a Super Bowl win and still has a solid defense. Both are expected to be Super Bowl contenders in 2017 so signing Romo would be worth the risk because Romo would certainly be a better option for Houston than Tom Savage and a better option for Denver than Trevor Simian or Paxton Lynch.
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Post by zoilus on Apr 4, 2017 3:06:39 GMT
But Houston had the #1 defense last season New England had the #1 defense last season. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 4, 2017 7:17:09 GMT
But Houston had the #1 defense last season New England had the #1 defense last season. Both statements are true. New England gave up the least points, Houston gave up the least yards. |
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Post by zoilus on Apr 4, 2017 13:51:21 GMT
Both statements are true. New England gave up the least points, Houston gave up the least yards. They're not both true. Giving up fewer points is better than giving up fewer yards. You ruined the chance for dcfan to blindly rant that I'm wrong. Way to go, jackass. |
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Post by Courwes on Apr 4, 2017 14:02:46 GMT
What are you talking about? Romo has been injured the past 4 seasons and missed games. Maybe more than that but that's what I remember right now. QB is the most important position on Offense and you need someone reliable who can stay on the field. Doesn't help your team if your QB goes down and misses 4-7 games a season causing you to tank some because you dont have an adequate QB. His injury proneness is what caused him to lose his job in the first place.
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Post by NJtoTX on Apr 4, 2017 16:04:52 GMT
These are passer ratings, not quarterback ratings. They only take into account passing (no rushing, no situations, no fumbling, no sack avoidance), and are ridiculously skewed to the modern hands-off game/players.
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Post by ctown28 on Apr 4, 2017 16:08:27 GMT
Romo will probably be the starting QB for either Houston or Denverin 2017. People say Romo is old and injury-prone. But Houston had the #1 defense last season and has J.J. Watt coming back, and Denver is 2 years removed from a Super Bowl win and still has a solid defense. Both are expected to be Super Bowl contenders in 2017 so signing Romo would be worth the risk because Romo would certainly be a better option for Houston than Tom Savage and a better option for Denver than Trevor Simian or Paxton Lynch.
What do you know? Looks like you're wrong again. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Apr 4, 2017 16:17:06 GMT
League Passer Ratings since 1959
Year Rating
2016 93.9
2015 94.7
2014 93.3
2013 90.3
2012 90.1
2011 88.7
2010 88.5
2009 87.5
2008 87.8
2007 87.1
2006 84.7
2005 84.5
2004 87.2
2003 82.9
2002 84.9
2001 82.8
2000 82.5
1999 81.4
1998 82.4
1997 81.2
1996 81.2
1995 83.7
1994 83
1993 81
1992 79.1
1991 80.5
1990 81.3
1989 79.5
1988 76.9
1987 78.9
1986 77.7
1985 77
1984 79.5
1983 79.4
1982 76.8
1981 76.7
1980 77.5
1979 74
1978 68.3
1977 64.1
1976 69.8
1975 69
1974 67.7
1973 67.9
1972 69.7
1971 65.6
1970 68.7
1969 74.9
1968 71.9
1967 70
1966 70.4
1965 76.4
1964 74.3
1963 74.7
1962 75.7
1961 71.5
1960 67.2
1959 70.3
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 4, 2017 16:28:37 GMT
Active QBs below minimum attempts needed
QB Rating Attempts
Dak Prescott 104.9 459
Marcus Mariota 93.8 821
Tyrod Taylor 92.3 851
Robert Griffin III 88.4 1210
Nick Foles 88.1 1285
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Post by shadyvsesham on Apr 4, 2017 16:56:14 GMT
Well...Romo is retiring.
So now Denver and Houston have no fn QB...NE superbowl 8. Probably ring 6.
Being from Houston it pains me to see us have a great defense, a great WR and a great RB and the most important position.....we are gonna go with fn Savage!?
Well nuts!
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 4, 2017 17:57:43 GMT
Both statements are true. New England gave up the least points, Houston gave up the least yards. They're not both true. Giving up fewer points is better than giving up fewer yards. You ruined the chance for dcfan to blindly rant that I'm wrong. Way to go, jackass. Not exactly. Giving up fewer points doesn't mean you have a better defense. Team 1's defense may give up 7 fewer points than Team 2's defense but Team 1 may have allowed 14 points more than Team 2 because Team 1's offense (via turnovers) and special teams allowed more points.
Points allowed includes points allowed by the offense (via turnovers) and special teams. Moreover, if the offense turns the ball over inside their red zone and the opponent scores a TD, then the defense allowed 7 points (even though the scoring drive was less than 20 yards). But if another defense allowed a team to drive 90 yards and then held them to a FG, then the defense allowed only 3 points.
In that case, the 1st defense allowed 7 points on a drive of less than 20 yards while the 2nd defense allowed 3 points on a drive of 90 yards. Clearly, the 2nd defense was worse. So yards allowed is a more accurate reflection of the better defense than points allowed.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 4, 2017 18:08:07 GMT
Well...Romo is retiring. So now Denver and Houston have no fn QB...NE superbowl 8. Probably ring 6. No, typical arrogance by Patriots fans. You keep forgetting that Derek Carr was the best QB in the AFC last season and the Raiders probably would've won the Super Bowl if not for the injury to Carr. With Carr back this season, the Las Vegas Raiders will most likely win the AFC and play against the Cowboys in Super Bowl LII. |
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Post by zoilus on Apr 4, 2017 18:21:09 GMT
Not exactly. Giving up fewer points doesn't mean you have a better defense. Team 1's defense may give up 7 fewer points than Team 2's defense but Team 1 may have allowed 14 points more than Team 2 because Team 1's offense (via turnovers) and special teams allowed more points.
Points allowed includes points allowed by the offense (via turnovers) and special teams. Moreover, if the offense turns the ball over inside their red zone and the opponent scores a TD, then the defense allowed 7 points (even though the scoring drive was less than 20 yards). But if another defense allowed a team to drive 90 yards and then held them to a FG, then the defense allowed only 3 points.
In that case, the 1st defense allowed 7 points on a drive of less than 20 yards while the 2nd defense allowed 3 points on a drive of 90 yards. Clearly, the 2nd defense was worse. So yards allowed is a more accurate reflection of the better defense than points allowed.
blah blah blah. The Pats defense was better than the Texans last season. Giving up fewer points is the object of the game. The Pats gave up 250 points, the Texans gave up 328. Big difference. Even factoring in points allowed not from defense, the Patriots were better. The Patriots' defense allowed fewer points. That means the Patriots' defense was better. That means you're wrong, again. |
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Post by zoilus on Apr 4, 2017 18:39:51 GMT
No, typical arrogance by Patriots fans. You keep forgetting that Derek Carr was the best QB in the AFC last season and the Raiders probably would've won the Super Bowl if not for the injury to Carr. With Carr back this season, the Las Vegas Raiders will most likely win the AFC and play against the Cowboys in Super Bowl LII. Btw - maybe I missed it - how do you feel about Joss Whedon directing Batgirl? On the one hand, he wrote and directed the "boring and crappy" Avengers movies which you gave 1 out of 10 stars. On the other hand, DC can do no wrong and must have chose him because he's the best. Must be tough. I do not envy the opinion forming part of your brain on this one. |
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Post by shadyvsesham on Apr 4, 2017 18:56:04 GMT
 Did you not see me say Im a Houston fan. We had a good defense. (Im not getting into the argument with you and zoilius, Im sure Zoil would say Texans have a scary defense, who was better, NE Vs Houston, who cares, sadly we played them twice, lost twice, and one of the games they didnt even have fn Brady, and we didnt score a d@mn point!)  LMAO my Texans beat the fn Raiders. Youll go "No Carr" who cares, we were fn 9-7, and if Oakland was that good, they couldnt even get past my crappy 9-7 Texans!? Yea, sorry, NE wasnt losing at home. LMAO, Cowboys arent making it nor are NE. Do you get sick of being wrong on a constant basis? Man, I feel bad when NE hangs up another banner and you have to cry again. Giants (You know, that team that beat you twice) got better this offseason. Dallas got worse. What makes you think Dallas will get to the super bowl. Will Dak have a sophomore slump....who knows. Youre not an objective fan, and if Dallas got to the super bowl, they'll be losing to NE....man your world would fn collapse.
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Post by ctown28 on Apr 4, 2017 20:51:07 GMT
Hmm, that looks vaguely familiar to your prediction from last season, of course that's after the Broncos were eliminated, which was your first pick. Then it went to Packers and Steelers, of course none of the teams you predicted even made it to the game. Tell us more about what a great prognosticators you are. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 23:40:37 GMT
What are you talking about? Romo has been injured the past 4 seasons and missed games. Maybe more than that but that's what I remember right now. QB is the most important position on Offense and you need someone reliable who can stay on the field. Doesn't help your team if your QB goes down and misses 4-7 games a season causing you to tank some because you dont have an adequate QB. His injury proneness is what caused him to lose his job in the first place. I keep thinking if he is really injury prone or just unlucky. I'm no doctor but are his bones any less dense than other players' and more subject to fractures? Or was him just unlucky with some bad positions when falling down? I'd understand better someone with busted knees after multiple ACL ruptures and surgeries not being considered by teams due to the player's deteriorating physical condition, but fracturing one's collar bone looks to me more like something unlucky than being injury-prone. Also, there was the question of him being forced back before the doctors were really happy with the healing. I remember an interview on the radio with a Sports Medicine doctor saying that if you go back to soon you risk another fracture. Maybe that's what happened. I think Romo still has some good quarterbacking in him. |
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