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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 6:55:24 GMT
I heard it was only something around a estimated 2% of the population that are gay and the like but yet this stuff is pushed by Hollywood and all of this other BS as they go further left. Its more like 10% of the population. Personally I think its more. Yeah. It is a lot more. I would say it is roughly around 20-25 percent. There was a recent poll done here in Australia by Sydney University that found 45 percent of women under the age of 30 identified as Bisexual, Pansexual or admitted to experimenting with people of the same sex and some people like to leave out Bisexuals especially if they are dating or marry a member of the opposite sex but Bisexuals make up the largest percentage of LGBT people in the world. Another interesting fact to consider is less than two percent of the world's population have red hair and I am married to a red head but characters with red hair have had far more representation in movies and TV shows over the years than we have even though we make up a larger percentage of the world's population but we don't see anybody complaining about them and instead complain now there aren't enough in movies. We just had the 41st 'Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade' here and that always attracts a large LGBT crowd and anybody who thinks we only make up 1 or 2 percent of the world's population should attend that or have a look at just how many men and women are in gay and lesbian bars 'cause I have been to a Lesbian bar not long ago with one of my friends who didn't want to go alone to meet somebody and the amount of Lesbians and Bi women in just that one alone wouldn't be possible if we only made up 1 or 2 percent of the world's population.
While it was a lot smaller when I was a teenager times have changed and a large part of that is due to more people no longer being afraid to hide their sexuality.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 7:09:02 GMT
Yes. I do. I personally think it is important to have representation like that for children and as somebody who grew up with homophobic parents who abandoned me when I came out I spent a lot of my childhood hating myself and feeling like there was something wrong with me 'cause of the way my Father talked about homosexuals and when I went to school I saw children getting bullied and bashed up for just being suspected of being gay and when I watched movies or TV shows the only representation of gay and Lesbian characters I saw were characters used for jokes and the subject of gay slurs. I knew I had feelings for my best friend when I was 8 and while all my hetero friends were crushing over guys who were lead singers of bands and hanging posters of them up on their bedroom all my crushes were female and before we bring sex into it like some people have I was not thinking about sex when I was younger and didn't even think about that until I was around 16 but I would think about kissing, cuddling and holding hands with my friend and telling how her I felt about her the same way a lot of young boys and girls did in my old Primary School.
It wasn't until I came out and talked to my Sister I was finally able to accept my sexuality and realise there was nothing wrong with me and as much as it hurt me at the time getting away from my homophobic parents and living with my Sister was one of the best things that happened to me. I would have LOVED to have had representation like that in movies and TV shows when I was a kid 'cause I would have been able to see there was nothing wrong with me at a younger age and while things have gotten better since then there are still children who grow up with homophobic parents like I did who could really use that. 
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Post by Harmless elf on Mar 3, 2019 7:17:11 GMT
First thing that came to mind was the kid in school of Rock who was the band stylist. There is a way to portray gay without it being sexual and there's a good example.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 3, 2019 8:55:21 GMT
Yes. I do. I personally think it is important to have representation like that for children and as somebody who grew up with homophobic parents who abandoned me when I came out I spent a lot of my childhood hating myself and feeling like there was something wrong with me 'cause of the way my Father talked about homosexuals and when I went to school I saw children getting bullied and bashed up for just being suspected of being gay and when I watched movies or TV shows the only representation of gay and Lesbian characters I saw were characters used for jokes and the subject of gay slurs. I knew I had feelings for my best friend when I was 8 and while all my hetero friends were crushing over guys who were lead singers of bands and hanging posters of them up on their bedroom all my crushes were female and before we bring sex into it like some people have I was not thinking about sex when I was younger and didn't even think about that until I was around 16 but I would think about kissing, cuddling and holding hands with my friend and telling how her I felt about her the same way a lot of young boys and girls did in my old Primary School.
It wasn't until I came out and talked to my Sister I was finally able to accept my sexuality and realise there was nothing wrong with me and as much as it hurt me at the time getting away from my homophobic parents and living with my Sister was one of the best things that happened to me. I would have LOVED to have had representation like that in movies and TV shows when I was a kid 'cause I would have been able to see there was nothing wrong with me at a younger age and while things have gotten better since then there are still children who grow up with homophobic parents like I did who could really use that.  Sorry that happened to you. Sucks that so many parents cant accept their kid for who they are. I never understood why people are so touchy with gay people. Never bothered me a bit. Its just the way many people are and there is nothing wrong with that. I wish everyone would realize that.
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Post by audiosane on Mar 3, 2019 16:59:36 GMT
Would you like to see Hollywood regularly portray LGBTQ children (like ages 6-12) in movies and TV?
For the most part, I only see teen and adult LGBTQ characters. If people are born with various sexual orientations and sexual identities, wouldn't it make sense for Hollywood to show more of these characters as children in movies and TV shows? Very poorly worded question. What do you mean by "regularly"? Probably many participants in your poll won't understand what you mean by that. How might an LGBTQ character under the age of 13 be portrayed in movies or tv? Probably most participants in your poll won't understand what you are getting at with your question as it was phrased, because most probably assume there is no sexuality before 13, and they probably aren't even considering the issue of gender identity. For those who feel under 13 is too young for any of these issues to be relevant, consider that children under 13 are very aware of gender identity and which gender they wish to act as and be treated as. One of the lead characters in the movie Fried Green Tomatoes, for instance, was shown as a very gender-non-conforming tomboy in the beginning of the film.  "Very poorly worded question."
Which question are you referring to, the one in the poll or in my original post?
"What do you mean by "regularly"? Probably many participants in your poll won't understand what you mean by that."I meant that it would be a fairly common occurrence to see LGBTQ children in movies and television rather than rarely overall. What else could it mean? "How might an LGBTQ character under the age of 13 be portrayed in movies or tv? Probably most participants in your poll won't understand what you are getting at with your question as it was phrased, because most probably assume there is no sexuality before 13, and they probably aren't even considering the issue of gender identity."Just as we sometimes see straight children expressing interest in the opposite gender (i.e. having a crush), the same could occur with gay and lesbian children. I figured most people would get that, particularly if they're pro-LGBTQ rights. How would you phrase it? Thanks for your helpful response.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 3, 2019 17:08:20 GMT
For the most part, I only see teen and adult LGBTQ characters. If people are born with various sexual orientations and sexual identities, wouldn't it make sense for Hollywood to show more of these characters as children in movies and TV shows? Do you see a lot of six year olds contemplating sex and attraction? The assumption should be we already see a bunch of gay kids on screen and their interests are not geared toward sexuality.
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Post by audiosane on Mar 3, 2019 17:15:26 GMT
How is it cementing children's sexual orientation? I'm not talking about over-sexualizing pre-teens. Just as straight kids are portrayed as having crushes and sometimes dating the opposite gender, the same would apply to gay and lesbian kids. I think kids should just be allowed to be kids. Devoting time and energy to emphasising the different sexual orientations of people who are far too young to be sexually active seems pointless to me. A form of tokenism. I'm not talking about being sexually active at all. Part of allowing kids to be kids is kids expressing interest in one another. For me, it began when I developed a crush on this girl in my kindergarten class. I developed several other crushes throughout elementary school before I left the 5th grade at the age of 11. It was a fairly common thing for certain boys and girls to be popular, in part, because a lot of kids found them attractive. Had nothing to do with sex. Were you ever interested in anyone back when you were in elementary school?
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Mar 3, 2019 19:21:07 GMT
Respectfully, responsibly, and realistic, that's the only way to deal with the subject. Such as:
A Kid Like Jake- a "blink and you miss it" movie with parents dealing with the issue of their 4 year old son's gender identity
Mysterious Skin- the younger version of the Joseph Gordon-Levitt character is fully aware of his sexuality, in an early scene where he spies on one of his mother's boyfriends
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Mar 4, 2019 1:54:59 GMT
I think kids should just be allowed to be kids. Devoting time and energy to emphasising the different sexual orientations of people who are far too young to be sexually active seems pointless to me. A form of tokenism. I'm not talking about being sexually active at all. Part of allowing kids to be kids is kids expressing interest in one another. For me, it began when I developed a crush on this girl in my kindergarten class. I developed several other crushes throughout elementary school before I left the 5th grade at the age of 11. It was a fairly common thing for certain boys and girls to be popular, in part, because a lot of kids found them attractive. Had nothing to do with sex. Were you ever interested in anyone back when you were in elementary school? I did have the odd childhood crush and definitely found the opposite sex attractive at that early stage of my life, though it was extremely innocent stuff. I'm not actually against including hints of some kid being attracted to a certain boy/girl of their own sex, but I'm against the idea of children (as in pre-teens) dating and having "relationships" (in the romantic sense) in general and this applies regardless of their sexual orientation. So movies would need to be really careful about how they handled such matters. Teenagers are, of course, a completely different matter and I'm 100% in favour of representing LGBT teens in film.
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Post by audiosane on Mar 5, 2019 5:21:43 GMT
I'm not talking about being sexually active at all. Part of allowing kids to be kids is kids expressing interest in one another. For me, it began when I developed a crush on this girl in my kindergarten class. I developed several other crushes throughout elementary school before I left the 5th grade at the age of 11. It was a fairly common thing for certain boys and girls to be popular, in part, because a lot of kids found them attractive. Had nothing to do with sex. Were you ever interested in anyone back when you were in elementary school? I did have the odd childhood crush and definitely found the opposite sex attractive at that early stage of my life, though it was extremely innocent stuff. I'm not actually against including hints of some kid being attracted to a certain boy/girl of their own sex, but I'm against the idea of children (as in pre-teens) dating and having "relationships" (in the romantic sense) in general and this applies regardless of their sexual orientation. So movies would need to be really careful about how they handled such matters. Teenagers are, of course, a completely different matter and I'm 100% in favour of representing LGBT teens in film. All I'm saying is that I would love to see gay and lesbian kids treated the same way as straight ones in media. Just as innocent.
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