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Post by sostie on Mar 4, 2019 22:29:02 GMT
people of colour, female or disabled, equally able to do the job are being overlooked for certain opportunities in the industry. If you think that is OK I think you should stop throwing the racist accusations and have a long hard look at yourself You really are slow at getting things. No one ever said overlooking the most qualified person is OK. In fact, I've been saying overlooking the most qualified person simply because they're a certain race is wrong, regardless of who does the overlooking. That is what you and other Brie Larson supporters don't seem to understand. But I'll try to explain it to you more simply. Brie Larson and you and all the other Brie Larson supporters basically have a Chicago 1920s mafia-style mentality. When Al Capone's gang whacked 1 of Bugs Moran's gang, Bugs Moran's gang would retaliate and whack 1 of Al Capone's gang. But that's not justice. That's just a 2nd murder, which is equally as wrong as the 1st murder. Brie Larson is basically saying "When qualified non-white people are overlooked, that's wrong, but when qualified white people are overlooked, that's not wrong." Brie Larson basically wants to correct the wrong of racial discrimination by committing a 2nd wrong - more racial discrimination.
Bottom line: Brie Larson is advocating for discrimination based solely on a person's race, and that is racism. Owned on the math...owned on the definition of quota...resort to repetitive incoherence
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Post by poutinep on Mar 4, 2019 22:47:37 GMT
Oh noes poor white men how will we ever manage? Try and play it down all you want, but it is still reverse racism at the end of the day no matter what context you look at it. She wants more POC at the press junkets, not because they may be more qualified and skilled but largely due to their identity. In a competitive industry like film journalism, that gives too big of an edge to POC when up against equivalent white candidates. And even if historically whites have dominated the field through positive discrimination, why should a young upcoming white journalist be held up for the crimes of his forefathers. This original sin fallacy has no boundary if its allowed free reign. There is no such thing as 'reverse racism' there is only racism. It's not racist to want some interviewers that aren't white guys... racist means thinking one race is better than another. Wanting fairness and equitable representation isn't racist.
Maintaining a status quo established due to racism is the worse of the two options, regardless of what you want to describe it as 'racist' or 'discriminatory.'
What the fuck are these qualifications everyone is talking about? What makes someone qualified to talk to an actress about a movie? Get real. We're talking about a conversation about a movie, not designing a bridge. Sometimes a different perspective and life experience is a qualification.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 4, 2019 23:14:24 GMT
What the fuck are these qualifications everyone is talking about? What makes someone qualified to talk to an actress about a movie? Get real. We're talking about a conversation about a movie, not designing a bridge. Sometimes a different perspective and life experience is a qualification. [/div][/quote] Sorry cannot agree, it is lowering standards. Every professional job has skill set to it, so not sure why youre dismissing film journalism as if it is easy as flipping burgers. And by you're own admission, this is just a movie about a white female superhero fighting aliens. Why do you need POC press reviewers so badly that you are willing to create an unequal opportunity platform. This isnt black panther or crazy rich asians. Brie could be given the benefit of doubt but her previous comments showing contempt for white middle aged men hints that she really has a dislike for them. Earn your place to be invited to a Marvel press tour, dont be happy to have it handed to you just because you have certain genetic traits. This aint the 1950s no more.
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Post by poutinep on Mar 5, 2019 0:26:16 GMT
Sorry cannot agree, it is lowering standards. Every professional job has skill set to it, so not sure why youre dismissing film journalism as if it is easy as flipping burgers. And by you're own admission, this is just a movie about a white female superhero fighting aliens. Why do you need POC press reviewers so badly that you are willing to create an unequal opportunity platform. This isnt black panther or crazy rich asians. Brie could be given the benefit of doubt but her previous comments showing contempt for white middle aged men hints that she really has a dislike for them. Earn your place to be invited to a Marvel press tour, dont be happy to have it handed to you just because you have certain genetic traits. This aint the 1950s no more. you're hilarious. go on believing that interviewing someone requires some kind of special skill then.
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 5, 2019 0:55:09 GMT
Sorry cannot agree, it is lowering standards. Every professional job has skill set to it, so not sure why youre dismissing film journalism as if it is easy as flipping burgers. And by you're own admission, this is just a movie about a white female superhero fighting aliens. Why do you need POC press reviewers so badly that you are willing to create an unequal opportunity platform. This isnt black panther or crazy rich asians. Brie could be given the benefit of doubt but her previous comments showing contempt for white middle aged men hints that she really has a dislike for them. Earn your place to be invited to a Marvel press tour, dont be happy to have it handed to you just because you have certain genetic traits. This aint the 1950s no more. you're hilarious. go on believing that interviewing someone requires some kind of special skill then. Hasn't the complaint of Actors/Directors been forever that Press Junkets everyone asks the same 10 questions?
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 5, 2019 2:04:04 GMT
Yes, she did. She said she wants more non-white interviewers. That means less white interviewers. Because … Math Lesson for anyone who hasn't gotten that far in school yet: The total must always add up to 100%. So if you increase 1 part by a certain percent, then another part must decrease by the same percent in order for the total to remain 100%. So Brie Larson wants more non-white interviewers. That means Brie Larson wants to limit the percent of white interviewers. So Brie Larson wants a quota based solely on a person's race. That's a racial quota and that's pretty racist. Math Lesson...only if the total is a set total. If there are 100 people and 20 are added the total is 120....100% of 120 is 120. If you add 1 to what is a 100% total that new total becomes 100% You appear to be suggesting that the number of spaces available for journalists at these press junkets is infinite.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 5, 2019 2:06:42 GMT
Try and play it down all you want, but it is still reverse racism at the end of the day no matter what context you look at it. She wants more POC at the press junkets, not because they may be more qualified and skilled but largely due to their identity. In a competitive industry like film journalism, that gives too big of an edge to POC when up against equivalent white candidates. And even if historically whites have dominated the field through positive discrimination, why should a young upcoming white journalist be held up for the crimes of his forefathers. This original sin fallacy has no boundary if its allowed free reign. There is no such thing as 'reverse racism' there is only racism. It's not racist to want some interviewers that aren't white guys... racist means thinking one race is better than another. Wanting fairness and equitable representation isn't racist.
Maintaining a status quo established due to racism is the worse of the two options, regardless of what you want to describe it as 'racist' or 'discriminatory.'
That's what racist people who support racism use an excuse to defend and support racism. But the bottom line is anytime someone is given preferential treatment based not on merits or qualifications but based solely on a person's race, that's racism. And that's what Brie Larson is advocating - racial quotas and racism.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 5, 2019 2:18:45 GMT
Math Lesson...only if the total is a set total. If there are 100 people and 20 are added the total is 120....100% of 120 is 120. If you add 1 to what is a 100% total that new total becomes 100% You appear to be suggesting that the number of spaces available for journalists at these press junkets is infinite. Yep, it's so simple to understand yet some MCU fans just don't seem to understand it. When you go to a restaurant, there's a sign posted saying how many people are allowed to be seated. If the seating is full, you can't seat another person unless you remove someone first. Similar with the number of spaces available for journalists at these press junkets. There's a finite number of spaces and when the limit is reached, you can't add another journalist unless you remove someone first. Brie Larson is calling for racial quotas. That's pretty racist.
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Post by poutinep on Mar 5, 2019 2:27:33 GMT
There is no such thing as 'reverse racism' there is only racism. It's not racist to want some interviewers that aren't white guys... racist means thinking one race is better than another. Wanting fairness and equitable representation isn't racist.
Maintaining a status quo established due to racism is the worse of the two options, regardless of what you want to describe it as 'racist' or 'discriminatory.'
That's what racist people who support racism use an excuse to defend and support racism. But the bottom line is anytime someone is given preferential treatment based not on merits or qualifications but based solely on a person's race, that's racism. And that's what Brie Larson is advocating - racial quotas and racism. You're funny man. It's a good thing white guys have you looking out for them or life could get very unpleasant for them!
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Post by sostie on Mar 5, 2019 2:36:26 GMT
Math Lesson...only if the total is a set total. If there are 100 people and 20 are added the total is 120....100% of 120 is 120. If you add 1 to what is a 100% total that new total becomes 100% You appear to be suggesting that the number of spaces available for journalists at these press junkets is infinite. As much as he is suggesting they are finite
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 5, 2019 3:14:56 GMT
HaHaHa!! Youtube demonetized the above video. And apparently, it isn't alone in that regard. It seems as though good ol' D$sney have their claws into Youtube as well.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 5, 2019 8:20:46 GMT
Sorry cannot agree, it is lowering standards. Every professional job has skill set to it, so not sure why youre dismissing film journalism as if it is easy as flipping burgers. And by you're own admission, this is just a movie about a white female superhero fighting aliens. Why do you need POC press reviewers so badly that you are willing to create an unequal opportunity platform. This isnt black panther or crazy rich asians. Brie could be given the benefit of doubt but her previous comments showing contempt for white middle aged men hints that she really has a dislike for them. Earn your place to be invited to a Marvel press tour, dont be happy to have it handed to you just because you have certain genetic traits. This aint the 1950s no more. you're hilarious. go on believing that interviewing someone requires some kind of special skill then. You think theyll let me interview Brie Larson if I ask them nicely?
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Post by poutinep on Mar 5, 2019 16:42:35 GMT
you're hilarious. go on believing that interviewing someone requires some kind of special skill then. You think theyll let me interview Brie Larson if I ask them nicely? What show/magazine/site do you represent?
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Post by charzhino on Mar 5, 2019 18:02:54 GMT
You think theyll let me interview Brie Larson if I ask them nicely? What show/magazine/site do you represent? Playboy
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