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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 8, 2017 14:11:33 GMT
I am not aware of any one who thinks this You do now So you think science is taught by those who think 'matter and space is all that it is about'? Interesting. but you are right: I do know a one now, lol. As you are someone 'who couldn't care less', arguably it is not a question of not being told, but you not being interested. I see you are now apparently insulting anyone here who disagrees with you. That tells me a lot. BTW: any supporting evidence or compelling necessity yet for that "eternal conSCIENCEness awareness" of yours? It sounds fab |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 8, 2017 14:24:30 GMT
I am not aware of any one who thinks this You do now So you think science is taught by those who think 'matter and space is all that it is about'? Interesting. but you are right: I do know one now, lol. As you are someone 'who couldn't care less', arguably it is not a question of not being told, but you not being interested. I see you are now apparently insulting anyone here who disagrees with you. That tells me a lot. BTW: any supporting evidence or compelling necessity yet for that "eternal conSCIENCEness awareness" of yours? It sounds fab Well, no one likes a smart alec, and I am only interested in hearing something that connects on a more authentic and deeper level, than just spouting of scientific knowledge, that isn't grounded in anything but matter reductionism and the death of the physical being the absolute end. Yes, you are reducing yourself to nothing, just not expanding. I wouldn't worry about the universe's expansion, you have much to do on yourself. Nothing is absolute, except the eternal conscious awareness, and nice how you have avoided the question of the eternal that I threw back at you.  There is nothing fab about you, and that is your biggest flaw. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 8, 2017 14:34:45 GMT
no one likes a smart alec, and I am only interested in hearing something that connects on a more authentic and deeper level, than just spouting of [sic] scientific knowledge ... It is a good job then that you aren't a spout of scientific knowledge then isn't it? Interested or not, there is no logical necessity for the death of the individual to be anything more than something final (as far as consciousness - or 'conSCIENCEnees' - is concerned). Although I can see how thinking otherwise might be comforting and give one a warm feeling about existence. I don't; but thanks for caring. The universe can cope without me. In which case, this sweeping statement is also not. For which the evidence is... Not to me, my friend; I have had no interrogations for two or three messages. I'm still remembering about what I said to you about the ad hominem Fallacy. A shame you don't. But you don't care, right? |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 8, 2017 17:11:08 GMT
You have no richness, It's all headspace with you. You can't even acknowledge that what I wrote describes you perfectly as well as that other puppet poster. Most people with any common sense and "innate" intelligence, something you lack, would see that you are just operating from the sense of self-superiority and boring ass pseudo academia.  Most of what you write is rhetorical bullsh!t and pretends to tell much, when in fact it tells little. Perhaps what you really need to do is reevaluate yourself. I won't be holding my breath though. There you go again, still projecting your own very obvious flaws onto others. I note with great satisfaction that my request for you to ground your claims about eternal consciousness was ignored. Because we both know these claims have no basis in anything approaching a process of logic, reason, or evidence. You just like to make crap up because some mystic seems to have said it. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 8, 2017 22:39:29 GMT
There you go again, still projecting your own very obvious flaws onto others. I note with great satisfaction that my request for you to ground your claims about eternal consciousness was ignored. Because we both know these claims have no basis in anything approaching a process of logic, reason, or evidence. You just like to make crap up because some mystic seems to have said it. Like I asked that wooden puppet head about proving his evidence that there is no conscious awareness, he can't, anymore than you can. All you will spout, is the knowledge of philosophy and science that you have read about, been lectured on and ingested mentally, without any authentic connection, feeling or understanding of who you really are. Your arrogance and conceit is not logical, and if anything, it is a deceit and fallacy that you can't acknowledge in the true and genuine nature of your being. The evidence is all around you, and in you and in every pore and facet of your being and what you have created for yourself. It is in your life, look closer! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 8, 2017 22:41:59 GMT
We know you are wooden puppet head, and you need to do plenty more chipping away, before you can be seen as superior as me.  Poor pitiful thing! |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 9, 2017 1:41:22 GMT
Like I asked that wooden puppet head about proving his evidence that there is no conscious awareness, he can't, anymore than you can. All you will spout, is the knowledge of philosophy and science that you have read about, been lectured on and ingested mentally, without any authentic connection, feeling or understanding of who you really are. Your arrogance and conceit is not logical, and if anything, it is a deceit and fallacy that you can't acknowledge in the true and genuine nature of your being. The evidence is all around you, and in you and in every pore and facet of your being and what you have created for yourself. It is in your life, look closer! Your utter failure to supply evidence or reason in support of your claims has been duly noticed, again. All you do is make a fool of yourself in post after post. If you had any sense or self awareness, you'd just stop. But you're like the Trump of dumb New Age metaphysics: you just can't restrain yourself. Carry on. You've become the poster child of why no one should take metaphysics of any kind with the slightest sort of seriousness. You are a walking joke. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 9, 2017 7:32:29 GMT
Your utter failure to supply evidence or reason in support of your claims has been duly noticed, again. All you do is make a fool of yourself in post after post. If you had any sense or self awareness, you'd just stop. But you're like the Trump of dumb New Age metaphysics: you just can't restrain yourself. Carry on. You've become the poster child of why no one should take metaphysics of any kind with the slightest sort of seriousness. You are a walking joke.  Show me the proof that there is NO eternal conscious awareness. This has been duly noted also. You can't be reasoned with, because you only want to give responses that you can impress upon others with. That says so much more about you, your arrogant smugness and the space you are coming from. You can't reason with somebody who is dead inside. Yes, you are a walking joke. Now wake up and stop misleading and misguiding people with what you think you know, when it has no soul to it. Fool! |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 9, 2017 10:35:40 GMT
Show me the proof that there is NO eternal conscious awareness. T Sorry, cupcake, that isn't how things work. When you make an incredible, incoherent claim, the burden of proof is upon YOU to back it up. You don't even know what "eternal conscious awareness" means. It's just a slogan you picked up. Here, let me hold your hand. One way to articulate what you mean by a concept or property would be to imagine how the world would be noticeably different if the universe lacked that property versus if it had that property. So please: describe how we could tell if "eternal conscious awareness" existed versus if it didn't. Good luck with that! |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 9, 2017 10:39:19 GMT
We know you are wooden puppet head, and you need to do plenty more chipping away, before you can be seen as superior as me. Poor pitiful thing! Is this insulting really all you have by way of rebuttal LOL?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 11, 2017 0:44:20 GMT
Show me the proof that there is NO eternal conscious awareness. T Sorry, cupcake, that isn't how things work. When you make an incredible, incoherent claim, the burden of proof is upon YOU to back it up. You don't even know what "eternal conscious awareness" means. It's just a slogan you picked up. Here, let me hold your hand. One way to articulate what you mean by a concept or property would be to imagine how the world would be noticeably different if the universe lacked that property versus if it had that property. So please: describe how we could tell if "eternal conscious awareness" existed versus if it didn't. Good luck with that! Don't condescend to me sunshine. I hardly think you are fit to hold anyone hands, with your pseudo academic rhetoric and then blindly misguide them. What is incoherent is your phony question. The property is in your life and being, all that is around you and deep within. So please: describe how we could tell if "eternal conscious awareness" doesn't exist, versus that it does?
Good luck with that!
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 11, 2017 12:07:13 GMT
So please: describe how we could tell if "eternal conscious awareness" doesn't exist, versus that it does? Excuse me, shit for brains, but that is exactly what I asked you to tell us. And because you don't even know what you mean by the phrase, you refused to even try. You are the one who introduced this bullshit concept to the thread. You are the one who needs to explain and defend it. But we all know you can't, since you are basically like a three year old child playing dress up at philosophy. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 11, 2017 22:17:32 GMT
So please: describe how we could tell if "eternal conscious awareness" doesn't exist, versus that it does? Excuse me, shit for brains, but that is exactly what I asked you to tell us. And because you don't even know what you mean by the phrase, you refused to even try. You are the one who introduced this bullshit concept to the thread. You are the one who needs to explain and defend it. But we all know you can't, since you are basically like a three year old child playing dress up at philosophy. Excuse me you hypocritical moron, I reversed your question; but you couldn't figure that one out, because you are too caught up in your own self-importance and arrogant state of body and mind only. I am not going to do your homework for you, regarding your eternal being. This is your own journey. You are the one who is dressing up your rhetorical pseudo-knowledge about the matter of the universe and wanting to impress upon others about the way things are and what you only "think" you know. You just haven't connected with eternal nature of it all. I have given it to you simply and straight from the hip and you can refute it as much as you like you stubborn pompous ass mule, but your lack of self-awareness is going to be your own ruination, if it hasn't done so already. Like I have already commented, you don't impress me and you tell me jack squat, apart from how transparent you are. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 10:42:41 GMT
I am not going to do your homework for you, regarding your eternal being. Thanks for confirming that you can't articulate what you mean since you don't even know what you mean. Your status as the village idiot of the Philosophy board has been firmly established. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 12, 2017 10:53:20 GMT
I am not going to do your homework for you, regarding your eternal being. Thanks for confirming that you can't articulate what you mean since you don't even know what you mean. Your status as the village idiot of the Philosophy board has been firmly established. Your philosophy of the notion of it all just being matter and then after death the end is idiotic, not to mention ignorant. One can't articulate what one has to explore within themselves. You are not a "self" anyway sunshine, and that is whole arrogant and conceited crux of your pompous ass argument. Do you really want to limit yourself to this? It is not becoming of you fool. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 12:24:00 GMT
Your philosophy of the notion of it all just being matter and then after death the end is idiotic, not to mention ignorant. Then try explaining why that is the overwhelmingly majority position of most scientists and philosophers who think about these issues. What do you know that they don't, genius? What is more likely: that they are all idiots and ignoramuses, or that you are? Don't bother answering that one; the truth is obvious. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 12, 2017 12:40:23 GMT
Your philosophy of the notion of it all just being matter and then after death the end is idiotic, not to mention ignorant. Then try explaining why that is the overwhelmingly majority position of most scientists and philosophers who think about these issues. What do you know that they don't, genius? What is more likely: that they are all idiots and ignoramuses, or that you are? Don't bother answering that one; the truth is obvious. I'm not so much into knowing, and you wouldn't see the truth pseudo-genius, if it bit you on your hard ass. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 13:59:42 GMT
I'm not so much into knowing. . . Ain't that the truth. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 12, 2017 14:21:29 GMT
I'm not so much into knowing. . . Ain't that the truth. You really don't like being told anything do you, about the "truth" of your existence and the deeper and authentic aspects of your eternal being? When you die, have a nice nothing to return too. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jun 12, 2017 15:21:46 GMT
You really don't like being told anything do you, about the "truth" of your existence and the deeper and authentic aspects of your eternal being? You've done no such thing. You've just spouted completely unsupported bullshit based on your uncritical, gullible acceptance of long discredited ancient metaphysics created by people who had no understanding of reality whatsoever. |
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