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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 10, 2017 9:29:17 GMT
The ego mindset wants us to believe it is all real. It is all projection. Work needs to be done to transcend above the ego notion of "I". Having an understanding that the fixed physical notion of the ego mindset is all illusion can assist in ones purpose and contribution in this here lifetime. This is a tool that assists us and allows more open awareness away from physical entrapment, attachments and sufferings of this realm. This online discussion has been manifested\created between us, and perhaps then what is being expressed is what needs to be heard. I can only take away from what you say, what I feel is resonate and connecting with my own truth and the same for you. It is at the end of the day however, all one and whole and complete. It doesn't really matter what is said, because it is really all illusion and just is.
If it 'doesn't really matter what is said', and you have already told me (even though I am unreal) that you 'cannot vouch' for much, then why are you still going on ? Give my regards to the conscious mind LOL
[/quote][/p] Perhaps because I like you. 
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 10, 2017 9:40:45 GMT
It is all projection. Work needs to be done to transcend above the ego notion of "I". Having an understanding that the fixed physical notion of the ego mindset is all illusion can assist in ones purpose and contribution in this here lifetime. This is a tool that assists us and allows more open awareness away from physical entrapment, attachments and sufferings of this realm. This online discussion has been manifested\created between us, and perhaps then what is being expressed is what needs to be heard. I can only take away from what you say, what I feel is resonate and connecting with my own truth and the same for you. It is at the end of the day however, all one and whole and complete. It doesn't really matter what is said, because it is really all illusion and just is.
If it 'doesn't really matter what is said', and you have already told me (even though I am unreal) that you 'cannot vouch' for much, then why are you still going on ? Give my regards to the conscious mind LOL
Is this you, or the 'ego mindset' speaking now? Because I can't vouch for either of you... |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 10, 2017 9:43:32 GMT
If it 'doesn't really matter what is said', and you have already told me (even though I am unreal) that you 'cannot vouch' for much, then why are you still going on ? Give my regards to the conscious mind LOL
[/p] Perhaps because I like you.
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Is this you, or the 'ego mindset' speaking now? Because I can't vouch for either of you...
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It is neither me or the ego mindset really, all just the illusion of what you can't vouch for.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 10, 2017 9:43:51 GMT
In which case my friend I shall try and avoid you for the rest of this thread. It is best to steer clear of the illusionary - especially the self-acknowledged ones. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 10, 2017 9:44:51 GMT
[/p] Perhaps because I like you.
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Is this you, or the 'ego mindset' speaking now? Because I can't vouch for either of you...
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It is neither me or the ego mindset really, all just the illusion of what you can't vouch for.
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Is it an illusion that you are having trouble quoting? 
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 10, 2017 9:53:42 GMT
[/p] Perhaps because I like you.
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Is this you, or the 'ego mindset' speaking now? Because I can't vouch for either of you...
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It is neither me or the ego mindset really, all just the illusion of what you can't vouch for.
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Is it an illusion that you are having trouble quoting?
[/quote] Blame the ego mind. You usually do. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 10, 2017 9:56:44 GMT
[/p] Perhaps because I like you.
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Is this you, or the 'ego mindset' speaking now? Because I can't vouch for either of you...
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It is neither me or the ego mindset really, all just the illusion of what you can't vouch for.
[/quote] [/quote][/p]
Is it an illusion that you are having trouble quoting?
[/quote] Blame the ego mind. You usually do. [/quote][/p] It is not the blame of the ego mind, only the illusion blame regarding the ego mindset. There is no ego mind when one is present and can see the illusion. 
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jul 11, 2017 18:52:23 GMT
"Your mind is not your conscious awareness." Yes it is. There's no good reason to believe otherwise. "Ego mind" is just garbage Freudianism. The brain does things that aren't mental, sure. When you don't think of something or someone, it doesn't exist as a thought. I know you wrote this ages ago but what's wrong with Freud? He was a bad fiction author |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 11, 2017 19:05:55 GMT
I know you wrote this ages ago but what's wrong with Freud? He was a bad fiction author Why do you say that? |
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Post by general313 on Jul 11, 2017 19:23:16 GMT
So, did we figure out if consciousness is just an illusion yet?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jul 12, 2017 2:39:14 GMT
He was a bad fiction author Why do you say that? Because he simply made up crap, with no sound empirical or philosophical basis, and in my opinion his made-up crap wasn't very well-written or interesting. |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 12, 2017 8:57:19 GMT
Because he simply made up crap, with no sound empirical or philosophical basis, and in my opinion his made-up crap wasn't very well-written or interesting. You think his work on defence mechanisms is "made up crap"? |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jul 12, 2017 10:10:37 GMT
Because he simply made up crap, with no sound empirical or philosophical basis, and in my opinion his made-up crap wasn't very well-written or interesting. You think his work on defence mechanisms is "made up crap"? Yes, definitely. It hinges on his stupid mental divisions (re ego etc.), the idea of unconscious mental content, etc. |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 12, 2017 10:14:48 GMT
You think his work on defence mechanisms is "made up crap"? Yes, definitely. It hinges on his stupid mental divisions (re ego etc.), the idea of unconscious mental content, etc. You don't believe in unconscious mental content? Okay...why? |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 12, 2017 11:14:46 GMT
So, did we figure out if consciousness is just an illusion yet? If consciousness is really an illusion then being conscious of the fact is an illusion too. |
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Post by general313 on Jul 12, 2017 14:55:39 GMT
So, did we figure out if consciousness is just an illusion yet? If consciousness is really an illusion then being conscious of the fact is an illusion too. How do you test if you're living in The Matrix? |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 12, 2017 15:01:18 GMT
If consciousness is really an illusion then being conscious of the fact is an illusion too. How do you test if you're living in The Matrix? If I am conscious of The Matrix test then that test could be an illusion too. |
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Post by general313 on Jul 12, 2017 15:18:02 GMT
How do you test if you're living in The Matrix? If I am conscious of The Matrix test then that test could be an illusion too. Exactly. So my answer to "How do you test if you're living in The Matrix?" is "You can't". Similarly, the OP question is in my opinion unanswerable and probably nonsensical. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 12, 2017 15:29:24 GMT
If I am conscious of The Matrix test then that test could be an illusion too. Exactly. So my answer to "How do you test if you're living in The Matrix?" is "You can't". Similarly, the OP question is in my opinion unanswerable and probably nonsensical. But then again, one's consciousness that everything such is an illusion would also be ... an illusion too, lol |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 16, 2017 0:14:01 GMT
So, did we figure out if consciousness is just an illusion yet? It is the ego mind that creates the illusion of the physical realm, consciousness just is and always was. |
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