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Post by Popeye Doyle on Mar 6, 2019 16:55:22 GMT
From the CBC - link
Black civil rights activist James Hart Stern is already getting to work as the new president of one America's largest neo-Nazi groups. The Mississippi reverend who took the helm of the National Socialist Movement (NSM) says he plans to hold the group accountable for its actions at a violent white nationalist rally last year, dismantle the organization completely and, finally, use its website to stream movies about slavery and the Holocaust.
"I did take possession of the organization, but it was strictly for the purpose of making sure that its 45 years of reigning terror on humanity will be over," Stern told As It Happens host Carol Off.
"I don't want to lead it. I'm not leading it. I'm dismantling it."
Founded in 1974 as the National Socialist American Workers Freedom Movement, the NSM is known for carrying out protests with members in full Nazi regalia. It is one several extremist groups being sued over bloodshed at a deadly 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va.
Stern took over the NSM from its former leader, Jeff Schoep. The neo-Nazi leader appears to have gone silent since the transfer of power. He did not respond to several requests for comment from The Associated Press, but a post under his name on a Russian social media site claims Stern tricked him.
Stern says he and Schoep have been chatting off and on for over five years, and that the neo-Nazi leader was planning to disband the group so he couldn't be held liable in the Charlottesville lawsuit. "That scared me," Stern said. "If he dissolved that, anybody could have picked it up and re-incorporated again and carried on the same shenanigans that's gone on for 45 years." Instead, Stern says he convinced Schoep to hand the reins over to him.
I said, 'I'll tell you what, if you want to try to prove to the world that you won't use the organization anymore, don't dissolve it so someone else can use it — give it to a black man, me. If I get it, you know I'm not going to use it anymore.'" "He desperately tried to make some strategic manoeuvres that backfired on him," Stern said. "And I had no problem accepting his stupidity and took advantage of it for humanity's sake to get rid of the group."Now, if anyone tries to raise the NSM from its ashes, Stern says they'll promptly be served with a cease-and-desist order.
Stern's first order of business was to ask a judge to find the NSM guilty of committing violence at the rally. He filed a request for summary judgment against his own group on Thursday. "It is the decision of the National Socialist Movement to plead liable to all causes of actions listed in the complaint against it," he wrote.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 16:57:14 GMT
I'd have gone with Shoah but that's a long sit.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Mar 6, 2019 17:08:24 GMT
I'd have gone with Shoah but that's a long sit. I wonder what life choices lead to being a Nazi. Especially in the 21st century.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 17:14:24 GMT
I'd have gone with Shoah but that's a long sit. I wonder what life choices lead to being a Nazi. Especially in the 21st century.  . With other hateful ideologies, I think it depends on the person. Sometimes, they learn it from who they know or were raised by. Other times, they do it themselves.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Mar 6, 2019 17:34:03 GMT
I wonder what life choices lead to being a Nazi. Especially in the 21st century. . With other hateful ideologies, I think it depends on the person. Sometimes, they learn it from who they know or were raised by. Other times, they do it themselves. I'm fascinated by the psychology of evil. If you're going to be bad, Nazis are always in vogue.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 6, 2019 18:06:39 GMT
Peter Ustinov once said in effect "communism creates nazis."
He was a man of the world-he knew what he was talking about.
Communism is said to have killed between 50 and 100 million people and the western news media just shrugs about it.
Someone like Trump comes along saying they have to guard the borders against violent invaders and he and more specifically his supporters are called fascists/nazis etc.
If you research the history of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, you discover those who advocated for it like James Boswell claimed the transfer of population was an act of mercy. They saw the black slaves as refugees. It is the open borders-multicultural folk who wanted slavery. The racists didn't want anything to do with African slaves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 18:14:45 GMT
I'd have gone with Shoah but that's a long sit. I wonder what life choices lead to being a Nazi. Especially in the 21st century. I'm shocked more people aren't simply because white people are the one group constantly under attack.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 6, 2019 19:41:01 GMT
I wonder what life choices lead to being a Nazi. Especially in the 21st century. I'm shocked more people aren't simply because white people are the one group constantly under attack. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 19:59:40 GMT
I'm shocked more people aren't simply because white people are the one group constantly under attack. lol I am completely serious.
Do people demand that Africa be more diverse? Or China? Or Latin America?
No. They only do that with predominantly white countries.
White people are under attack all the time in America. They are the one group you can vilify.
Look at Smollett and how easily that was accepted as truth without any facts.
I do not agree at all with any socialist or supremacy group, no matter the race, but I would not be surprised at all if a strong nationalist movement erupted not only in the US but in Europe and Australia, the latter being the least likely.
At some point, they will have had enough.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 21:21:39 GMT
I am completely serious.
Do people demand that Africa be more diverse? Or China? Or Latin America?
No. They only do that with predominantly white countries.
White people are under attack all the time in America. They are the one group you can vilify.
Look at Smollett and how easily that was accepted as truth without any facts.
I do not agree at all with any socialist or supremacy group, no matter the race, but I would not be surprised at all if a strong nationalist movement erupted not only in the US but in Europe and Australia, the latter being the least likely.
At some point, they will have had enough.
Where have you been? It already has. It’s called the alt-right, coined by a Neo-Nazi no less. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:43:22 GMT
I am completely serious.
Do people demand that Africa be more diverse? Or China? Or Latin America?
No. They only do that with predominantly white countries.
White people are under attack all the time in America. They are the one group you can vilify.
Look at Smollett and how easily that was accepted as truth without any facts.
I do not agree at all with any socialist or supremacy group, no matter the race, but I would not be surprised at all if a strong nationalist movement erupted not only in the US but in Europe and Australia, the latter being the least likely.
At some point, they will have had enough.
Where have you been? It already has. It’s called the alt-right, coined by a Neo-Nazi no less. You mean that group of people who are so few in number they can't even populate a small town? LOL
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 23:10:00 GMT
Where have you been? It already has. It’s called the alt-right, coined by a Neo-Nazi no less. You mean that group of people who are so few in number they can't even populate a small town? LOL And yet they’ve the ear of the White House. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 23:12:11 GMT
You mean that group of people who are so few in number they can't even populate a small town? LOL And yet they’ve the ear of the White House. No.
But Obama invited BLM to the White House and his race relations advisor was Al Sharpton. You can't get any more racist than that.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 23:17:58 GMT
And yet they’ve the ear of the White House. No.
But Obama invited BLM to the White House and his race relations advisor was Al Sharpton. You can't get any more racist than that.
*Cough cough* Bannon, Miller, Gorka, Smith, Beattie *cough cough* |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 23:22:59 GMT
No.
But Obama invited BLM to the White House and his race relations advisor was Al Sharpton. You can't get any more racist than that.
*Cough cough* Bannon, Miller, Gorka, Smith, Beattie *cough cough* I said you can't get any more racist than BLM or Sharpton.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 23:29:44 GMT
*Cough cough* Bannon, Miller, Gorka, Smith, Beattie *cough cough* I said you can't get any more racist than BLM or Sharpton.
Those guys I listed were all white nationalists and people who sympathized with the movement. Stephen Miller actually knows Richard Spencer and Sebastian Gorka belongs to a Hungarian Neo-Fascist group. Yet these people have actually WORKED or still do work for the White House, dictating public policy. That trumps any conspiratorial fantasies about some has-been pundit or a bunch of protesters. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 23:33:07 GMT
I said you can't get any more racist than BLM or Sharpton.
Those guys I listed were all white nationalists and people who sympathized with the movement. Stephen Miller actually knows Richard Spencer and Sebastian Gorka belongs to a Hungarian Neo-Fascist group. Yet these people have actually WORKED or still do work for the White House, dictating public policy. That trumps any conspiratorial fantasies about some has-been pundit or a bunch of protesters. Of course, they are all racists. That's what liberals have been telling us for two years. But there is no evidence of it other than the crime of being born white.
It's just like the Russian collusion nonsense. You have created all this to win elections and nothing else.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 6, 2019 23:48:45 GMT
Those guys I listed were all white nationalists and people who sympathized with the movement. Stephen Miller actually knows Richard Spencer and Sebastian Gorka belongs to a Hungarian Neo-Fascist group. Yet these people have actually WORKED or still do work for the White House, dictating public policy. That trumps any conspiratorial fantasies about some has-been pundit or a bunch of protesters. Of course, they are all racists. That's what liberals have been telling us for two years. But there is no evidence of it other than the crime of being born white.
It's just like the Russian collusion nonsense. You have created all this to win elections and nothing else.
Well I had a little help from George Soros.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 1:21:40 GMT
Of course, they are all racists. That's what liberals have been telling us for two years. But there is no evidence of it other than the crime of being born white.
It's just like the Russian collusion nonsense. You have created all this to win elections and nothing else.
Well I had a little help from George Soros. Dems wanted an insurance policy in case Trump won. That's the Russian collusion. It was never intended to prove any real Russian collusion. It was meant to investigate Trump for anything they could find in hopes they take down his presidency. That's the state of the Dems today. No conscience, no integrity, no decency.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 7, 2019 1:38:14 GMT
Well I had a little help from George Soros. Dems wanted an insurance policy in case Trump won. That's the Russian collusion. It was never intended to prove any real Russian collusion. It was meant to investigate Trump for anything they could find in hopes they take down his presidency. That's the state of the Dems today. No conscience, no integrity, no decency. Robert Mueller's a democrat?
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