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Post by kuatorises on Feb 15, 2017 15:10:30 GMT
A place to discuss the prequels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 15:19:28 GMT
I'm strictly the original 3 films only. Even Force Awakens which people seem to love bored me and has actually put me right off seeing anymore Star Wars films.
But the prequels - Just overdone with CGI and the spaceships they are flying seem more advanced than the ones in the original films even though the prequels are meant to be set in an earlier time period. Also Vader's motivation to turn to the darkside was really badly done in my opinion. The films just lack depth for me.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 15, 2017 16:49:14 GMT
I'm strictly the original 3 films only. Even Force Awakens which people seem to love bored me and has actually put me right off seeing anymore Star Wars films. But the prequels - Just overdone with CGI and the spaceships they are flying seem more advanced than the ones in the original films even though the prequels are meant to be set in an earlier time period. Also Vader's motivation to turn to the darkside was really badly done in my opinion. The films just lack depth for me. Particularly parts two and three IMO. TPM was a lot of practical effects and most of the CGI they did use was fine, but it somehow got worse as the series went on.TPM is easily the best of the three as far as I'm concerned. Everything you said (and more) is true about their shortcomings. I like the new movies and of course the originals. |
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Post by uriel on Feb 19, 2017 13:43:34 GMT
Not much chance to have a rational discussion if you're going to put "shitty" in the thread title.
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Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 20, 2017 6:20:14 GMT
I'm strictly the original 3 films only. Even Force Awakens which people seem to love bored me and has actually put me right off seeing anymore Star Wars films. But the prequels just overdone with and the spaceships they are flying seem more advanced than the ones in the original films even though the prequels are meant to be set in an earlier time period. Also Vader's motivation to turn to the darkside was really badly done in my opinion. The films just lack depth for me. Particularly parts two and three IMO. TPM was a lot of practical effects and most of the CGI they did use was fine, but it somehow got worse as the series went on.TPM is easily the best of the three as far as I'm concerned. Everything you said (and more) is true about their shortcomings. I like the new movies and of course the originals. Agreed. It felt it had a solid story and hadn't spoiled the universe. It really opened up the story in any direction it wanted. It was the sequels that couldn't do any world building and trashed characterization. |
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 20, 2017 15:51:19 GMT
Not much chance to have a rational discussion if you're going to put "shitty" in the thread title. A movie review is by definition subjective. |
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 20, 2017 16:17:24 GMT
Particularly parts two and three IMO. TPM was a lot of practical effects and most of the CGI they did use was fine, but it somehow got worse as the series went on.TPM is easily the best of the three as far as I'm concerned. Everything you said (and more) is true about their shortcomings. I like the new movies and of course the originals.
Agreed. It felt it had a solid story and hadn't spoiled the universe. It really opened up the story in any direction it wanted. It was the sequels that couldn't do any world building and trashed characterization.It wasn't in a great – or even necessarily a good movie – but it's easily the most tolerable one. If you go back and watch it I don't even think it feels like it's connected to the other two. The look and feel are so different. |
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Post by xystophoros on Feb 20, 2017 20:36:58 GMT
Star Wars is a franchise that's been getting by on the strength of movies released 40 years ago. The "prequels" were terrible, The Force Awakens is an insultingly bad rehash of the original film in the series, and Rogue One was predictable and perfunctory.
But even in the original trilogy, Empire Strikes Back is the only truly good film out of the lot. A New Hope is decent, but Return of the Jedi is the weakest of the original three.
I'd love to see a grittier SW film written by people who don't feel the need to load the script with Velveeta-soaked fan service so longtime SW devotees can knowingly giggle in the theater. ("LOL she mentioned Lando Calrissian! 'Member Lando? 'Member Chewbacca again?")
The franchise needs to forget about the past and force some new legends, otherwise it's going to collapse under the weight of its own cheese.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 21, 2017 20:17:19 GMT
Star Wars is a franchise that's been getting by on the strength of movies released 40 years ago. The "prequels" were terrible, The Force Awakens is an insultingly bad rehash of the original film in the series, and Rogue One was predictable and perfunctory. But even in the original trilogy, Empire Strikes Back is the only truly good film out of the lot. A New Hope is decent, but Return of the Jedi is the weakest of the original three. I'd love to see a grittier SW film written by people who don't feel the need to load the script with Velveeta-soaked fan service so longtime SW devotees can knowingly giggle in the theater. ("LOL she mentioned Lando Calrissian! 'Member Lando? 'Member Chewbacca again?") The franchise needs to forget about the past and force some new legends, otherwise it's going to collapse under the weight of its own cheese.The Force Awakens is the third highest grossing movie of all time. Rogue One is 20th on the list. It's hard to give credence to anything you say when you speak in such a ridiculously baseless hyperbole. You are also off-topic. |
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Post by Spock on Feb 22, 2017 4:41:15 GMT
The second prequel was ok.
The first and third were awful.
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Post by misstique on Feb 22, 2017 8:36:58 GMT
The Force Awakens is the third highest grossing movie of all time. Rogue One is 20th on the list. It's hard to give credence to anything you say when you speak in such a ridiculously baseless hyperbole. It's hard to give credence to anything YOU say when you equate box-office gross with movie quality. I bet you must think that Michael Bay's Transformers movies are masterpieces because they grossed so much, right? |
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 22, 2017 17:33:48 GMT
The Force Awakens is the third highest grossing movie of all time. Rogue One is 20th on the list. It's hard to give credence to anything you say when you speak in such a ridiculously baseless hyperbole. It's hard to give credence to anything YOU say when you equate box-office gross with movie quality. I bet you must think that Michael Bay's Transformers movies are masterpieces because they grossed so much, right? I bet you made a really stupid – and frankly incorrect – statement because you were too fired up to really understood what I said. xystophoros said: I responded by citing the movie did extremely well financially. I never said box office totals equal quality, I said box office totals disprove his belief that the franchise is going to "collapse". One thing the franchise is not is in danger financially. He is wrong about that, just as you are wrong about me and my opinions. |
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 22, 2017 17:34:34 GMT
The second prequel was ok.The first and third were awful. Good God no, that's the worst one – and the worst Star Wars movie ever made. |
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Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 22, 2017 21:17:53 GMT
I agree. Clone wars was generic as you can get. Cgi, the plain relationship and bad acting made it horrible.
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Post by pete8680 on Feb 22, 2017 22:30:51 GMT
All 3 prequels films used more models, matt paintings, puppets and latex suits then the original trilogy.
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Post by xystophoros on Feb 24, 2017 0:25:09 GMT
It's hard to give credence to anything YOU say when you equate box-office gross with movie quality. I bet you must think that Michael Bay's Transformers movies are masterpieces because they grossed so much, right? I bet you made a really stupid – and frankly incorrect – statement because you were too fired up to really understood what I said. xystophoros said: I responded by citing the movie did extremely well financially. I never said box office totals equal quality, I said box office totals disprove his belief that the franchise is going to "collapse". One thing the franchise is not is in danger financially. He is wrong about that, just as you are wrong about me and my opinions. Even that line of thinking is suspect. Sure, the first Star Wars movies in 15+ years have done well financially. But what do you think is going to happen when Disney keeps pumping out more Star Wars movies, cartoons, merchandise and video games? There are at least three more Star Wars films in development right now, and that's just in the immediate cycle. Disney is planning at least one new film a year indefinitely, and each release brings a new wave of tie-in merchandise, cross promotions, "collectibles," eight different versions of the BluRay, boxed sets, novelizations, $400 replica light sabers, special editions with 16 seconds of extra footage, pet bowls and collars, door mats, drink coasters, Darth Vader cock rings, Jedi-branded assless chaps, Chewbacca fart spray, pillows shaped like the Millennium Falcon... They're just going to keep shoveling this garbage out until even the worst fanboys can't stand it anymore, but I'm sure you'll still be there, saying "Member Monmothra? Member Lando Calrissian? Ooh, ooh, member Chewbacca again?" |
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Post by pete8680 on Feb 24, 2017 2:07:16 GMT
I'm sure once these Di$ney SW films start making less then $500 million WW they'll space them out every 2/3 years then every year.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 24, 2017 14:54:07 GMT
I bet you made a really stupid – and frankly incorrect – statement because you were too fired up to really understood what I said. xystophoros said: I responded by citing the movie did extremely well financially. I never said box office totals equal quality, I said box office totals disprove his belief that the franchise is going to "collapse". One thing the franchise is not is in danger financially. He is wrong about that, just as you are wrong about me and my opinions. Sure, the first Star Wars movies in 15+ years have done well financially. But what do you think is going to happen when Disney keeps pumping out more Star Wars movies, cartoons, merchandise and video games? There are at least three more Star Wars films in development right now, and that's just in the immediate cycle. Disney is planning at least one new film a year indefinitely, and each release brings a new wave of tie-in merchandise, cross promotions, "collectibles," eight different versions of the BluRay, boxed sets, novelizations, $400 replica light sabers, special editions with 16 seconds of extra footage, pet bowls and collars, door mats, drink coasters, Darth Vader cock rings, Jedi-branded assless chaps, Chewbacca fart spray, pillows shaped like the Millennium Falcon... They're just going to keep shoveling this garbage out until even the worst fanboys can't stand it anymore, but I'm sure you'll still be there, saying "Member Monmothra? Member Lando Calrissian? Ooh, ooh, member Chewbacca again?" Are you drunk? You are free to dislike whenever you want, but you have no credibility when you say baseless things like the franchise is in danger of collapsing. You couldn't even say that after the prequels – and they sucked. With the success of the two most recent movies, the franchise is seeing a resurgence and is an absolutely no danger of collapsing. What a stupid statement. |
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