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Post by msdemos on Mar 13, 2019 23:10:45 GMT
Does he get a free, or even a partial, "pass" for the good things he's done in life (namely, starting his foundation that has collected (approximately) half-a-billion dollars for fighting cancer) ??  SAVE FERRIS
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Post by weststigersbob on Mar 13, 2019 23:28:56 GMT
It seems a bit hollow though.
Raised huge money for cancer as a cancer survivor ✅
Had a huge profile because of his sporting deeds ✅
Repeatedly denied, vehemently, using PED’s ✅
Proven to be a drug cheat, and therefore wouldn’t have had the profile to begin with ✅
The only ‘redemption’ Armstrong can make is to win 7 Tour de France ‘clean’. And that isn’t going happen.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 14, 2019 5:23:31 GMT
deport to Haiti.
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Post by Marv on Mar 14, 2019 9:54:17 GMT
I never cared much one way or another. But if he’s helping the fight against cancer than no amount of cheating at sports will make me think him a bad guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:08:34 GMT
His cheating and lying about it was so persistent, I don't think he will ever be 'redeemed' in the eyes of cycle racing fans. His name is permanently besmirched in the sporting sense.
If he has found a new purpose helping people with cancer, and his profile helps with that, good for him.
It's not for me to judge if he is redeemed, it's for him to forgive himself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 13:06:27 GMT
He's the most fascinating / polarizing human being in Western Civilization IMO - not only sports athelete.
I find stories of greed, wealth, cheating, bullying incredibly interesting - and when everything comes crashing down - how that person handles it and how the world treats them intriguing beyond belief.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 14, 2019 13:32:03 GMT
Redeemed as a person perhaps, but not as an athlete.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Mar 14, 2019 13:42:29 GMT
Jamie Lannister has been redeemed, and he pushed a 10-year old boy out of a window, deliberately, after fucking his twin sister for the thousandth time.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 14, 2019 14:44:18 GMT
Jamie Lannister has been redeemed, and he pushed a 10-year old boy out of a window, deliberately, after fucking his twin sister for the thousandth time. So you're saying we should cut off Lance's hand. Maybe his leg, that would be more apropos for a cyclist.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Mar 14, 2019 14:56:45 GMT
Jamie Lannister has been redeemed, and he pushed a 10-year old boy out of a window, deliberately, after fucking his twin sister for the thousandth time. So you're saying we should cut off Lance's hand. Maybe his leg, that would be more apropos for a cyclist. He already had a ball removed, right? We could always just hold him down and lance the other one off.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 14, 2019 16:16:36 GMT
His lying as branding remains despicable.
If O.J. Simpson donated $4 million to women's shelters, would that be a great thing?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Mar 14, 2019 17:04:54 GMT
If O.J. Simpson donated $4 million to women's shelters, would that be a great thing? Yes.
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 14, 2019 20:58:11 GMT
Some.
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