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Post by DSDSquared on Mar 14, 2019 12:22:14 GMT
Average
I finally saw this last night in IMAX. Many here know that I am a huge fan of the MCU. However, this movie was not very good. Heck, it was downright boring in parts. Some of the movie was funny and the action was decent in the last act, but the action for the rest of the movie was bland and the jump cuts during every fight were so distracting. Also, even though there was some great humor in this, it was few and far between and surrounded by very cheesy jokes. I do not want it to seem like I hated it. I didn't. It was not terrible in the same way Thor 2 was not terrible. It is just not very good either.
I am starting to get a little worried about the MCU. Sure, Infinity War was excellent, but it had to be. It was a culmination of 10 years and 20 movies. However, Antman and the Wasp was forgettable and average. I might never watch it again unless it is on TV for free. I feel the same about Captain Marvel. There was a time that I owned every MCU movie on Blu-Ray. I loved the collection. The MCU seriously came out with ten solid movies in a row at one point and that is unheard of in any franchise, but I feel the magic may be ending. I have no doubt that Endgame will be excellent, but where do they go from there? I am now very anxious to see the new Spiderman. If that is forgettable and boring like Antman 2 and Captain Marvel, then it may mark the beginning of the end of the MCU. It has been an amazing run.
I will add that my two daughters loved the movie. I guess that made it worth it. I was worried they were bored. They were kind of moving around and getting restless during the film. However, when it was over, they were talking about it and loved it. They really liked Goose the cat. He was the best character honestly and I loved seeing young Fury and Coulson. It was not all bad. The end credit scene was the best part.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 14, 2019 12:47:28 GMT
The sequel will be a hell of a lot better. The problem this film always faced was the lack of other established heroes. We've been completely immersed in the lore of the ever expanding MCU, and CM expected audiences to go back to essentially a phase one film. No major villains, no other heroes to bounce off of; not a whole lot going on. On top of that they gave the lead character amnesia. If she doesn't know who she is, how is the audience supposed to relate to her? That approach could've worked better if they made it more of a character drama. But to try to force that story into a family friendly romp was asking for trouble.
On top of all that you have Fiege's comments about Captain Marvel being at the forefront of the MCU going forward, which only puts added pressure on the entire project. If she's going to be the new Cap or Iron Man, audiences better love this character. But she has to earn it. You didn't market Cap or IM as the next movie character audiences were going to love, it happened naturally. I take issue with the way this film was marketed as well as the decision to shoehorn her into MCU history instead of introducing her in the current timeline.
In the end, I can't say I was disappointed because my expectations were tempered going in. I enjoyed it for what it was but I can't disagree with your 'average' rating. It's not a bad film despite not making my MCU top ten. This character has a ton of potential for phase four as it's supposed to be focused more on the cosmic side of things. Perhaps an underwhelming introduction to the character, but I'm convinced the future is bright for Captain Marvel.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 14, 2019 13:11:26 GMT
They arent willing to innovate or do something completely out of trend to their usual formula. Its reflects worse on audiences than the studios really, when geek fandoms are overpraising movies like Antman/Captain Marvel and giving them 9s and 10/10s and watching 4-5 times repeat, studio will keep churning out the same ordinary product over and over until box office starts to wine
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Post by DSDSquared on Mar 14, 2019 13:38:29 GMT
The sequel will be a hell of a lot better. The problem this film always faced was the lack of other established heroes. We've been completely immersed in the lore of the ever expanding MCU, and CM expected audiences to go back to essentially a phase one film. No major villains, no other heroes to bounce off of; not a whole lot going on. On top of that they gave the lead character amnesia. If she doesn't know who she is, how is the audience supposed to relate to her? That approach could've worked better if they made it more of a character drama. But to try to force that story into a family friendly romp was asking for trouble. On top of all that you have Fiege's comments about Captain Marvel being at the forefront of the MCU going forward, which only puts added pressure on the entire project. If she's going to be the new Cap or Iron Man, audiences better love this character. But she has to earn it. You didn't market Cap or IM as the next movie character audiences were going to love, it happened naturally. I take issue with the way this film was marketed as well as the decision to shoehorn her into MCU history instead of introducing her in the current timeline. In the end, I can't say I was disappointed because my expectations were tempered going in. I enjoyed it for what it was but I can't disagree with your 'average' rating. It's not a bad film despite not making my MCU top ten. This character has a ton of potential for phase four as it's supposed to be focused more on the cosmic side of things. Perhaps an underwhelming introduction to the character, but I'm convinced the future is bright for Captain Marvel. I can get behind this in a way. She was not a bad character. I just thought the movie was very underwhelming.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 14, 2019 16:20:15 GMT
This.
And, The first end credit scene was the best part.
The 2nd end credit scene was fucking annoying. If you're going to make me wait give me some fucking thing. I get enough hairballs at home from my own infinitely more adorable cats.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 14, 2019 16:29:02 GMT
This.
And, The first end credit scene was the best part.
The 2nd end credit scene was fucking annoying. If you're going to make me wait give me some fucking thing. I get enough hairballs at home from my own infinitely more adorable cats. Agreed on the post-credit scene. I hate sitting through ten minutes worth of credits for a stale joke.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 14, 2019 16:30:32 GMT
This.
And, The first end credit scene was the best part.
The 2nd end credit scene was fucking annoying. If you're going to make me wait give me some fucking thing. I get enough hairballs at home from my own infinitely more adorable cats. Agreed on the post-credit scene. I hate sitting through ten minutes worth of credits for a stale joke. They could've just switched the two scenes. Duh!
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 14, 2019 16:39:41 GMT
I can agree with the "average" part but for a different reason. For me, the humor was fine and there was no part in the movie where I actually felt bored. The problem was, I never felt like the movie took off. It never built to a proper climax, didn't go through decent trials and tribulations, didn't work for its heroic moments, etc. It felt like it was on cruise control for the entire film.
It was still a fun and enjoyable ride though. I rate it closer to Dr. Strange than to Antman and the Wasp. Just a bit under Dr. Strange.
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Post by scabab on Mar 14, 2019 18:17:23 GMT
I suppose it's true that the last two MCU movies have been some of the weakest if not the weakest but I ain't too worried.
The original Ant-man was one of the weaker ones itself. This Endgame will probably be great again and the Spider-Man at least looks better than Ant-man and Captain Marvel.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 14, 2019 18:22:41 GMT
I suppose it's true that the last two MCU movies have been some of the weakest if not the weakest but I ain't too worried. The original Ant-man was one of the weaker ones itself. This Endgame will probably be great again and the Spider-Man at least looks better than Ant-man and Captain Marvel. Ant-Man and Captain Marvel are both awful. And Far From Home doesn't look like it's any better. Far From Home looks like a copy of National Lampoon's European Vacation. The IMDb description for National Lampoon's European Vacation is "The Griswolds win a vacation tour across Europe where the usual havoc ensues." Far From Home looks like it's going to be "Peter and his friends take a vacation tour across Europe where havoc ensues."
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Post by scabab on Mar 14, 2019 18:41:45 GMT
Funnily enough I watched European Vacation yesterday. No superheroes in it though.
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Post by darkpast on Mar 14, 2019 18:41:54 GMT
That's how i describe the whole MCU
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Post by sostie on Mar 14, 2019 18:46:56 GMT
Satisfactory
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Post by sostie on Mar 14, 2019 18:50:15 GMT
I suppose it's true that the last two MCU movies have been some of the weakest if not the weakest but I ain't too worried. The original Ant-man was one of the weaker ones itself. This Endgame will probably be great again and the Spider-Man at least looks better than Ant-man and Captain Marvel. Ant-Man and Captain Marvel are both awful. Must be by very small increments seeing you gave every MCU film except Infinity War 1/10 scores on IMDB.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 15, 2019 2:34:51 GMT
Awful
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Mar 15, 2019 3:01:41 GMT
Good.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 15, 2019 18:19:04 GMT
Everythingmanofsteelshouldhavebeen
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 15, 2019 18:50:58 GMT
Blonde.
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Post by Archelaus on Mar 15, 2019 19:03:06 GMT
Formulaic
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 15, 2019 19:10:27 GMT
not-as-bad-as-I-feared
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