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Post by Cody™ on Mar 25, 2019 7:27:24 GMT
Stupid as in the answers obvious kind of way? Like me asking would you accept a cheque of 10 million pounds? No, stupid as in the 'doesn't show what you appear to think it does'. I know pretty much everything you believe is rooted in a desperate need to deny reality, but this is poor even by your standards. So, are you going to answer the question or not?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 10:49:14 GMT
No, stupid as in the 'doesn't show what you appear to think it does'. I know pretty much everything you believe is rooted in a desperate need to deny reality, but this is poor even by your standards. So, are you going to answer the question or not? Are you going to accept that it's a stupid question or not?
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Post by Cody™ on Mar 25, 2019 11:24:22 GMT
So, are you going to answer the question or not? Are you going to accept that it's a stupid question or not? How is it stupid? It’s a perfectly valid question. Would you take a refugee into your home? If yes. Why? If no. Why not? Give your reasons.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 25, 2019 11:38:09 GMT
Are you going to accept that it's a stupid question or not? How is it stupid? It’s a perfectly valid question. Would you take a refugee into your home? If yes. Why? If no. Why not? Give your reasons. For me it would be resounding NO. And why not? Because I don't care enough. And yes, it is a valid question, but deflection by many who claim to stand for something and then don't have the courage of their convictions is typical of hypocritical and windbag lefty extremists. I don't give righty extremists a free pass either, but in regards to the point brought up, I see it as relevant and only weeds out the bulls<>t and phony rhetoric of certain political partisans.
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Post by Cody™ on Mar 25, 2019 11:41:05 GMT
How is it stupid? It’s a perfectly valid question. Would you take a refugee into your home? If yes. Why? If no. Why not? Give your reasons. For me it would be resounding NO. And why not? Because I don't care enough. And yes, it is a valid question, but deflection by many who claim to stand for something and then don't have the courage of their convictions is typical of hypocritical and windbag lefty extremists. I don't give righty extremists a free pass either, but in regards to the point brought up, I see it as relevant and only weeds out the bulls<>t and phony rhetoric of a certain political partisans. Well said.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 16:32:04 GMT
Are you going to accept that it's a stupid question or not? How is it stupid? It’s a perfectly valid question. Of course it's not. Will you admit that it's a stupid question or not?
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Post by Cody™ on Mar 25, 2019 18:44:31 GMT
How is it stupid? It’s a perfectly valid question. Of course it's not. Will you admit that it's a stupid question or not? No, because I don’t think it’s a stupid question. Now will you man up and answer it or just admit you’d prefer not to answer.
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Post by goz on Mar 25, 2019 20:54:47 GMT
Of course it's not. Will you admit that it's a stupid question or not? No, because I don’t think it’s a stupid question. Now will you man up and answer it or just say admit you’d prefer not to answer. After you. Don't forget the reasons why or why not! BTW...I was at my sis in law's last night and it reminded me that as a member of a refugee assistance group, she and my bro have had several refugees living with them in their home ( one man from Iran who was there for two years)., They are democratic socialists. They vote Labour in this country.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 23:42:19 GMT
Of course it's not. Will you admit that it's a stupid question or not? No, because I don’t think it’s a stupid question. Yes, but that's because you're a stupid person. Now will you man up and admit that it's a stupid question, Cody?
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Post by Cody™ on Mar 26, 2019 7:16:58 GMT
No, because I don’t think it’s a stupid question. Yes, but that's because you're a stupid person. Now will you man up and admit that it's a stupid question, Cody? And yet you seem to be one of the very few on the board who thinks it’s a stupid question. Forget it. When a someone gets this pathetically desperate to avoid answering a simple question, even resorting to ad hominem attacks, then it’s time to move on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 8:59:53 GMT
Yes, but that's because you're a stupid person. Now will you man up and admit that it's a stupid question, Cody? And yet you seem to be one of the very few on the board who thinks it’s a stupid question. Forget it. When a someone gets this pathetically desperate to avoid answering a simple question, even resorting to ad hominem attacks, then it’s time to move on. So you're not going to admit that it's a stupid question? Oh well, forget it. When a someone gets this pathetically desperate to avoid admitting how stupid his question is, even resorting to ad hominem attacks, then it’s time to move on.
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Post by goz on Mar 26, 2019 21:21:23 GMT
Yes, but that's because you're a stupid person. Now will you man up and admit that it's a stupid question, Cody? And yet you seem to be one of the very few on the board who thinks it’s a stupid question. Forget it. When a someone gets this pathetically desperate to avoid answering a simple question, even resorting to ad hominem attacks, then it’s time to move on. You never answered my question @cody™! Maybe because it was actually a stupid question? If you won't or can't answer it yet you expect Graham to have answered, you are either a hypocrite or you thought the same question was too stupid to answer.
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Post by phludowin on Mar 27, 2019 5:47:58 GMT
You never answered my question Cody™ ! Maybe because it was actually a stupid question? If you won't or can't answer it yet you expect Graham to have answered, you are either a hypocrite or you thought the same question was too stupid to answer. To be fair, Cody™ answered this question on another thread. I wasn’t aware anybody had asked. But my answer would be No. Because there are many other helpful ways of supporting those people before trusting a complete stranger into my home to live.
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Post by rizdek on Mar 27, 2019 9:53:45 GMT
As I've pointed out, what someone wants to do with their own possessions might be different than what someone might be ok with their tax dollars doing. Maybe permitting more refugees isn't one of those things, but the argument that "if you don't want to do it yourself, then that's a good reason not to have the govt doing it" isn't always a good argument. There are many things I'd never do myself, or expend my personal resources to make happen, that I am ok and even favor the govt doing.
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Post by rizdek on Mar 27, 2019 9:55:41 GMT
^^^ Doubling down on the stupid Why can’t you answer the question, Graham? I have answered the question, Cody. See my rsp. above.
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Post by rizdek on Mar 27, 2019 13:03:02 GMT
There's no reason for any individual to take on the responsibilities of a state. They claimed they would have no problem with the responsibility of taking refugees in to their home. The opportunity to house a homeless refugee is presented right before them and all of a sudden it’s “sorry, no room at the inn”.  Cody. I think the reasoning that "if someone refuses to take in refuges into their own homes that they are being hypocritical if they are ok with or favor of their govt doing" it is flawed.
I don't take in orphans, but I'm ok with the govt providing for their care when someone else isn't providing it. I don't open my home to homeless teens, but I am ok with the govt providing a safety net for their survival. I don't go about picking up trash on streets and by the road, but I'm ok with the govt doing that. I don't do many thing personally that I'm ok with the govt doing and I don't think it's hypocritical. Many things...like taking in refugees...can have a substantial risk and responsibility that I'm not trained to deal with. But I'm ok with the govt having people trained to deal with those risks and responsibilities. Please think of it a different way, because your argument as it is, doesn't work.
NOW, if you don't want your tax dollars to go to help foreign refugees, then you can challenge someone on whether they want their tax dollars to go for that. And if they say no THEN that probably represents some sort of hypocrisy. But not just because they don't open their personal home to them.
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Post by goz on Mar 27, 2019 21:06:54 GMT
They claimed they would have no problem with the responsibility of taking refugees in to their home. The opportunity to house a homeless refugee is presented right before them and all of a sudden it’s “sorry, no room at the inn”. Cody. I think the reasoning that "if someone refuses to take in refuges into their own homes that they are being hypocritical if they are ok with or favor of their govt doing" it is flawed.
I don't take in orphans, but I'm ok with the govt providing for their care until or when someone else isn't providing it. I don't open my home to homeless teens, but I am ok with the govt providing a safety net for their survival. I don't go about picking up trash on streets and by the road, but I'm ok with the govt doing that. I don't do many thing personally that I'm ok with the govt doing and I don't think it's hypocritical. Many things...like taking in refugees...can have a substantial risk and responsibility that I'm not trained to deal with. But I'm ok with the govt having people trained to deal with those risks and responsibilities. Please think of it a different way, but cause your argument as it is, doesn't work.
NOW, if you don't want your tax dollars to go to help foreign refugees, then you can challenge someone on whether they want their tax dollars to go for that. And if they say no THEN that probably represents some sort of hypocrisy. But not just because they don't open their personal home to them.
^ ^ ^ ...and that reasonable assessment of the situation is probably why @cody™ 's question really was stupid, because he actually knew that, evidenced by the reply he finally made on another thread. He was being both disingenuous and stupid to make a racist bigoted point and failed entirely on that account.
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Post by goz on Mar 27, 2019 21:09:42 GMT
You never answered my question Cody™ ! Maybe because it was actually a stupid question? If you won't or can't answer it yet you expect Graham to have answered, you are either a hypocrite or you thought the same question was too stupid to answer. To be fair, Cody™ answered this question on another thread. I wasn’t aware anybody had asked. But my answer would be No. Because there are many other helpful ways of supporting those people before trusting a complete stranger into my home to live. To be fair? To Cody?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 29, 2019 11:52:46 GMT
Not surprised.
Actions speak louder than words.
It's easy to bleat on about how righteous you are these days, put your moral superiority where your mouth is.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 30, 2019 9:03:18 GMT
Not surprised. Actions speak louder than words. It's easy to bleat on about how righteous you are these days, put your moral superiority where your mouth is. Most of these clowns think their morals are a real thing and others should operate by their own phony standards. They end up talking circular rhetoric around a simple question, to make it appear more complex than what it is; a) to impress and b) because they lack the gumption to follow through with what they only claim to believe, because the "moral" belief within is safe and the government is doing the dirty work for them. They don't have to take on the responsibility for it. It is like those pro-death penalty advocates who cry and scream for blood, but if they were offered an opportunity to flip the switch themselves, they would chicken out.
They also expect others to answer their questions when thrown around, but now hypocritically refuse to answer one that will call them out on their own duplicity.
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