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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 9, 2019 15:35:25 GMT
You mean the incredibly condescending line involving "new girl"? Could she call him "new boy"? If Captain Marvel was a man, most likely they would have said "new guy". Because saying "new man" just doesn't roll off the tongue well, same way "new woman" also sounds weird. "New boy" would probably be preferable to "new man". I guess they could have said "new gal" for Carol, but honestly "new girl" is probably the closest counterpart to "new guy". Besides, it wasn't said in an insulting manner. Most men I know don't mind being called "boys" as long as it's not done in an insulting manner. That's why no one complains when a waitress asks a table of men, "So what are you boys having tonight?" or when Lady Gaga sings the line "Tell me something, boy..." or when your friend asks "Are you boys going out tonight?". "New gal" seems worse than "new girl." Which is just slang for girl...
Man, musta been half asleep on this one.
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Post by merh on Apr 9, 2019 20:16:23 GMT
You mean the incredibly condescending line involving "new girl"? Could she call him "new boy"? He's not new. I was talking about how cheesy it was. Yes & Rhodes & Stark have a history of awkward comments. But it felt incredibly condescending. Which it was probably meant to be. Banner is inertia. He is inaction. Carol is supporting action. Rhodey seem to be siding with Banner against acting & chooses a rather dismissive tone to do so.
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Post by merh on Apr 9, 2019 20:21:51 GMT
You mean the incredibly condescending line involving "new girl"? Could she call him "new boy"? If Captain Marvel was a man, most likely they would have said "new guy". Because saying "new man" just doesn't roll off the tongue well, same way "new woman" also sounds weird. "New boy" would probably be preferable to "new man". I guess they could have said "new gal" for Carol, but honestly "new girl" is probably best term they could have used given the context of the conversation. Besides, it wasn't said in an insulting manner. Most men I know don't mind being called "boys" as long as it's not done in an insulting manner. That's why no one complains when a waitress asks a table of men, "So what are you boys having tonight?" or when Lady Gaga sings the line "Tell me something, boy..." or when your workmate asks "Are you boys going out for lunch?". Are you saying there was nothing dismissive in Rhodey's exchange? Like he wasn't "seasoned pro" to her new kid in the block? Hell, he could have said that & it would have been less dismissive. He was trying to come on as experienced vs knowing apparently nothing about her past. Considering both are military, his dismissiveness is what she was fighting in the 80s Air Force.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 20:33:11 GMT
If Captain Marvel was a man, most likely they would have said "new guy". Because saying "new man" just doesn't roll off the tongue well, same way "new woman" also sounds weird. "New boy" would probably be preferable to "new man". I guess they could have said "new gal" for Carol, but honestly "new girl" is probably best term they could have used given the context of the conversation. Besides, it wasn't said in an insulting manner. Most men I know don't mind being called "boys" as long as it's not done in an insulting manner. That's why no one complains when a waitress asks a table of men, "So what are you boys having tonight?" or when Lady Gaga sings the line "Tell me something, boy..." or when your workmate asks "Are you boys going out for lunch?". Are you saying there was nothing dismissive in Rhodey's exchange? Like he wasn't "seasoned pro" to her new kid in the block? Hell, he could have said that & it would have been less dismissive. He was trying to come on as experienced vs knowing apparently nothing about her past. Considering both are military, his dismissiveness is what she was fighting in the 80s Air Force. No, Rhodey didn't sound dismissive at all. What it sounded like was Rhodey calling out the new comer for being dismissive of them. Notice that Rhodey never mentioned anything about how they were better than Carol. It was Carol who thought she was better than them. Rhodey called her out on it by pointing out that they were all superheroes. I personally don't have any complaints about this exchange but if I had to nitpick and say there was someone being condescending and dismissive in this clip, then it was definitely Carol.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 9, 2019 21:25:57 GMT
Are you saying there was nothing dismissive in Rhodey's exchange? Like he wasn't "seasoned pro" to her new kid in the block? Hell, he could have said that & it would have been less dismissive. He was trying to come on as experienced vs knowing apparently nothing about her past. Considering both are military, his dismissiveness is what she was fighting in the 80s Air Force. No, it didn't sound dismissive. What it sounded like was Rhodey calling out the new comer for being too cocky. Notice that Rhodey never mentioned anything about how they were better than Carol. It was Carol who thought she was better than them. Rhodey called her out on it by pointing out that they were all superheroes. I personally don't have any complaints about this exchange but if I had to nitpick and say there was someone being condescending and dismissive in this clip, then it was definitely Carol. Why shouldn't he be dismissive of her for suggesting it would go any differently if she was there with them? They had pretty much everyone there and still lost. My guess is this takes place before they have any real idea who she is or what she can do, a claim from her that she's the difference maker invites a challenge and begs the question where was she when they needed her.
Half of everyone they know is dead, including many of their hero friends, the new kid claiming she can make all that up by her lonesome is not going to be treated with kid gloves.
Good answer on her part, a statement of fact, suggesting her previous statement was simply stating the obvious from her perspective and generating an aura of confidence but not insecure boasting. Her whimpering and whining about being dissed would have implied something else.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 21:34:22 GMT
No, it didn't sound dismissive. What it sounded like was Rhodey calling out the new comer for being too cocky. Notice that Rhodey never mentioned anything about how they were better than Carol. It was Carol who thought she was better than them. Rhodey called her out on it by pointing out that they were all superheroes. I personally don't have any complaints about this exchange but if I had to nitpick and say there was someone being condescending and dismissive in this clip, then it was definitely Carol. Why shouldn't he be dismissive of her for suggesting it would go any differently if she was there with them? They had pretty much everyone there and still lost. My guess is this takes place before they have any real idea who she is or what she can do, a claim from her that she's the difference maker invites a challenge and begs the question where was she when they needed her.
Half of everyone they know is dead, including many of their hero friends, the new kid claiming she can make all that up by her lonesome is not going to be treated with kid gloves.
Good answer on her part, a statement of fact, suggesting her previous statement was simply stating the obvious from her perspective and generating an aura of confidence but not insecure boasting. Her whimpering and whining about being dissed would have implied something else.
Of course, the opposite is also true. Carol probably has no idea who these people are, how strong they are or what they can do. Claiming that she's all they need in order to win implies that she believes she's way better than them.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 9, 2019 21:44:11 GMT
Why shouldn't he be dismissive of her for suggesting it would go any differently if she was there with them? They had pretty much everyone there and still lost. My guess is this takes place before they have any real idea who she is or what she can do, a claim from her that she's the difference maker invites a challenge and begs the question where was she when they needed her.
Half of everyone they know is dead, including many of their hero friends, the new kid claiming she can make all that up by her lonesome is not going to be treated with kid gloves.
Good answer on her part, a statement of fact, suggesting her previous statement was simply stating the obvious from her perspective and generating an aura of confidence but not insecure boasting. Her whimpering and whining about being dissed would have implied something else.
Of course, the opposite is also true. Carol probably has no idea who these people are, how strong they are or what they can do. Claiming that she's all they need in order to win implies that she believes she's way better than them. Yeah, but "it ain't bragging if you can do it." Cap would understand that reference.
They're better off if she's right, but they're not going to accept it immediately without a little probing to see what she's made of.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 21:58:41 GMT
Of course, the opposite is also true. Carol probably has no idea who these people are, how strong they are or what they can do. Claiming that she's all they need in order to win implies that she believes she's way better than them. Yeah, but "it ain't bragging if you can do it." Cap would understand that reference. They're better off if she's right, but they're not going to accept it immediately without a little probing to see what she's made of. But she's not right, or at least not that we know of. In any case, we're not talking about bragging. We're talking about being dismissive and condescending. No one in this clip was trying to "probe" what she was made of. It was simply Rhodey stating that they were all superheroes, implying that no one in the room was a newbie in this business (her included).
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Post by Marendil on Apr 9, 2019 22:15:47 GMT
Yeah, but "it ain't bragging if you can do it." Cap would understand that reference. They're better off if she's right, but they're not going to accept it immediately without a little probing to see what she's made of. But she's not right, or at least not that we know of. In any case, we're not talking about bragging. We're talking about being dismissive and condescending. No one in this clip was trying to "probe" what she was made of. It was simply Rhodey stating that they were all superheroes, implying that no one in the room was a newbie in this business (her included). She came across to me as matter-of-fact, though those unfamiliar with her (probably everyone in that room) might feel they have reason to suspect they're dealing with a braggart or someone who liked to 'talk the talk...'
Rhodey and later Thor were probing. Substitute the word 'challenge' if you like that better. From what I saw she gave indications she could '...walk the walk.'
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 22:24:45 GMT
But she's not right, or at least not that we know of. In any case, we're not talking about bragging. We're talking about being dismissive and condescending. No one in this clip was trying to "probe" what she was made of. It was simply Rhodey stating that they were all superheroes, implying that no one in the room was a newbie in this business (her included). She came across to me as matter-of-fact, though those unfamiliar with her (probably everyone in that room) might feel they have reason to suspect they're dealing with a braggart or someone who liked to 'talk the talk...'
Rhodey and later Thor were probing. Substitute the word 'challenge' if you like that better. From what I saw she gave indications she could '...walk the walk.'
Nah, you're giving her way too much credit. She might have been very businesslike in her delivery of her line but that doesn't mean she wasn't being condescending. She's never fought Thanos (that we know of), never fought his children, never fought his forces. She doesn't know how powerful the Avengers are nor how she compares to them power-wise. So the fact that she thinks she's all they need (even if she didn't mean to brag), makes her dismissive and condescending of the Avengers. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. Understand that I'm not trying to harp on Carol. I previously said I liked how she was portrayed here. Just because I call Tony Stark an arrogant prick doesn't mean I don't like him. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I'm doing the same thing with Carol here. She was being a cocky biatch and Rhodes called her out on it. That's not a bad thing, I don't hate her for it. In fact, I like it because it gives her personality. But let's call a spade a spade and stop trying to make her seem perfect.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 9, 2019 22:37:15 GMT
She came across to me as matter-of-fact, though those unfamiliar with her (probably everyone in that room) might feel they have reason to suspect they're dealing with a braggart or someone who liked to 'talk the talk...'
Rhodey and later Thor were probing. Substitute the word 'challenge' if you like that better. From what I saw she gave indications she could '...walk the walk.'
Nah, you're giving her way too much credit. She might have been very businesslike in her delivery of her line but that doesn't mean she wasn't being condescending. She's never fought Thanos (that we know of), never fought his children, never fought his forces. She doesn't know how powerful the Avengers are nor how she compares to them power-wise. So the fact that she thinks she's all they need (even if she didn't mean to brag), makes her sound assumptive and condescending of the Avengers. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. Understand that I'm not trying to harp on Carol. I previously said I liked how she was portrayed here. Just because I call Tony Stark an arrogant prick doesn't mean I don't like him. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I'm doing the same thing with Carol here. She was being a cocky biatch and Rhodes called her out on it. That's not a bad thing, I don't hate her for it. In fact, I like it because it gives her personality. But let's call a spade a spade and not try to make her seem perfect. I saw confidence, you saw cockiness, those in that room had to make that determination for themselves.
They did call her on it to aid in that endeavor, that's what I'm getting at.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 22:50:43 GMT
Nah, you're giving her way too much credit. She might have been very businesslike in her delivery of her line but that doesn't mean she wasn't being condescending. She's never fought Thanos (that we know of), never fought his children, never fought his forces. She doesn't know how powerful the Avengers are nor how she compares to them power-wise. So the fact that she thinks she's all they need (even if she didn't mean to brag), makes her sound assumptive and condescending of the Avengers. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. Understand that I'm not trying to harp on Carol. I previously said I liked how she was portrayed here. Just because I call Tony Stark an arrogant prick doesn't mean I don't like him. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I'm doing the same thing with Carol here. She was being a cocky biatch and Rhodes called her out on it. That's not a bad thing, I don't hate her for it. In fact, I like it because it gives her personality. But let's call a spade a spade and not try to make her seem perfect. I saw confidence, you saw cockiness, those in that room had to make that determination for themselves.
They did call her on it to aid in that endeavor, that's what I'm getting at. Confidence is about knowing you can do something because you've done it before, or have done something similar enough that you know you can do it. Cockiness is about believing you can do something despite not having much experience or knowledge about it. Carol has never fought anyone with a single infinity stone (that we know of) and now she's saying she can take on someone who has six. That's not confidence, that's cockiness. But even if we were to label it as "confidence", that still doesn't change the fact that she was dismissive and condescending of the Avengers. And again, there's nothing wrong with that, so there's no need to defend her. Peter Quill is dismissive and condescending of almost everyone around him all the time. Doesn't stop him from being a likeable character.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 9, 2019 23:58:33 GMT
I saw confidence, you saw cockiness, those in that room had to make that determination for themselves.
They did call her on it to aid in that endeavor, that's what I'm getting at. Confidence is about knowing you can do something because you've done it before, or have done something similar enough that you know you can do it. Cockiness is about believing you can do something despite not having much experience or knowledge about it. Carol has never fought anyone with a single infinity stone (that we know of) and now she's saying she can take on someone who has six. That's not confidence, that's cockiness. But even if we were to label it as "confidence", that still doesn't change the fact that she was dismissive and condescending of the Avengers. And again, there's nothing wrong with that, so there's no need to defend her. Peter Quill is dismissive and condescending of almost everyone around him all the time. Doesn't stop him from being a likeable character. Define it however you like, I enjoyed that little scene and don't think worse of any of them nor want to be splitting hairs semantically over it anymore.
I'm not defending anyone really, just explaining why I saw that behavior as natural on the part of all parties concerned.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 10, 2019 0:01:00 GMT
Confidence is about knowing you can do something because you've done it before, or have done something similar enough that you know you can do it. Cockiness is about believing you can do something despite not having much experience or knowledge about it. Carol has never fought anyone with a single infinity stone (that we know of) and now she's saying she can take on someone who has six. That's not confidence, that's cockiness. But even if we were to label it as "confidence", that still doesn't change the fact that she was dismissive and condescending of the Avengers. And again, there's nothing wrong with that, so there's no need to defend her. Peter Quill is dismissive and condescending of almost everyone around him all the time. Doesn't stop him from being a likeable character. Define it however you like, I enjoyed that little scene and don't think worse of any of them nor want to be splitting hairs semantically over it anymore.
I'm not defending anyone really, just explaining why I saw that behavior as natural on the part of all parties concerned.
And I don't think any worse out of any of them either. I have no complaints about that scene and have repeatedly stated I liked how they portrayed Carol. My argument was simply against the idea that Rhodey was being condescending.
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Post by merh on Apr 10, 2019 5:46:55 GMT
Define it however you like, I enjoyed that little scene and don't think worse of any of them nor want to be splitting hairs semantically over it anymore.
I'm not defending anyone really, just explaining why I saw that behavior as natural on the part of all parties concerned.
And I don't think any worse out of any of them either. I have no complaints about that scene and have repeatedly stated I liked how they portrayed Carol. My argument was simply against the idea that Rhodey was being condescending. Rough draft. It's 10:30. Got home an hour ago from Pet Semetary. Widow: he used the stones again Banner: heey, we'd be going in short handed, you know Carol: so let's go get him. We use them to bring them back. Rhodey: look, he still has the stones, so- Banner: just like that. Steve: yeah. Just like that Widow:Even if there is a small chance we can undo this, we owe it to everyone who isnot in this room to try. Banner: if we do this, how do we know this is going to end any different than it did before? Carol: because before you didnt have me. Rhodey: hey, new girl, everybody in this room is about that superhero life. And if you don't mind my asking, where the hell have you been all this time? Carol: there are a hell of a lot of other planets in this universe & unfortunately they didn't have you guys. So... Thor is moping in corner. Widow & Steve seem to want to act, but Rhodey & Banner are dragging BADLEY. Banner-we're short-handed. Thanos is Thanos. It's useless. Right? He DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Rhodey - he has the stones, he's strong.. HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Steve rolls eyes, but I don't think it's at Carol, but at the 2 naysayers. They had Widow & Cap wanting to act, but Banner & Rhodey not wanting to act with Thor on the side not feeling he doesnt have the right to cast a deciding vote in the affairs of man (presumably. He can't be the tie-breaker) so Carol is speaking up. She is casting a vote for action, not inertia. Tesseract powered? Having someone powered by an Infinity stone wouldn't help?
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 10, 2019 6:31:47 GMT
And I don't think any worse out of any of them either. I have no complaints about that scene and have repeatedly stated I liked how they portrayed Carol. My argument was simply against the idea that Rhodey was being condescending. Rough draft. It's 10:30. Got home an hour ago from Pet Semetary. Widow: he used the stones again Banner: heey, we'd be going in short handed, you know Carol: so let's go get him. We use them to bring them back. Rhodey: look, he still has the stones, so- Banner: just like that. Steve: yeah. Just like that Widow:Even if there is a small chance we can undo this, we owe it to everyone who isnot in this room to try. Banner: if we do this, how do we know this is going to end any different than it did before? Carol: because before you didnt have me. Rhodey: hey, new girl, everybody in this room is about that superhero life. And if you don't mind my asking, where the hell have you been all this time? Carol: there are a hell of a lot of other planets in this universe & unfortunately they didn't have you guys. So... Thor is moping in corner. Widow & Steve seem to want to act, but Rhodey & Banner are dragging BADLEY. Banner-we're short-handed. Thanos is Thanos. It's useless. Right? He DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Rhodey - he has the stones, he's strong.. HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Steve rolls eyes, but I don't think it's at Carol, but at the 2 naysayers. They had Widow & Cap wanting to act, but Banner & Rhodey not wanting to act with Thor on the side not feeling he doesnt have the right to cast a deciding vote in the affairs of man (presumably. He can't be the tie-breaker) so Carol is speaking up. She is casting a vote for action, not inertia. Tesseract powered? Having someone powered by an Infinity stone wouldn't help? Banner and Rhodey are not voting for "inertia". They're voting for caution. Asking for round 2 with the guy that casually demolished your entire team is something that should be considered with greater contemplation.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 10, 2019 15:37:46 GMT
And I don't think any worse out of any of them either. I have no complaints about that scene and have repeatedly stated I liked how they portrayed Carol. My argument was simply against the idea that Rhodey was being condescending. Rough draft. It's 10:30. Got home an hour ago from Pet Semetary. Widow: he used the stones again Banner: heey, we'd be going in short handed, you know Carol: so let's go get him. We use them to bring them back. Rhodey: look, he still has the stones, so- Banner: just like that. Steve: yeah. Just like that Widow:Even if there is a small chance we can undo this, we owe it to everyone who isnot in this room to try. Banner: if we do this, how do we know this is going to end any different than it did before? Carol: because before you didnt have me. Rhodey: hey, new girl, everybody in this room is about that superhero life. And if you don't mind my asking, where the hell have you been all this time? Carol: there are a hell of a lot of other planets in this universe & unfortunately they didn't have you guys. So... Thor is moping in corner. Widow & Steve seem to want to act, but Rhodey & Banner are dragging BADLEY. Banner-we're short-handed. Thanos is Thanos. It's useless. Right? He DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Rhodey - he has the stones, he's strong.. HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Steve rolls eyes, but I don't think it's at Carol, but at the 2 naysayers. They had Widow & Cap wanting to act, but Banner & Rhodey not wanting to act with Thor on the side not feeling he doesnt have the right to cast a deciding vote in the affairs of man (presumably. He can't be the tie-breaker) so Carol is speaking up. She is casting a vote for action, not inertia. Tesseract powered? Having someone powered by an Infinity stone wouldn't help? Do they know that at this juncture? Even if they did they had two Tesseract-powered beings (Vision & Scarlet Witch) last time and still lost. Hulk got curb-stomped so thoroughly when he went toe-to-toe with Thanos he hasn't been seen since ("Nooooo!") and was saved only by the last act of a dying god. It's easy to see how they might be dubious that one person could make all that up and change the odds in their favor.
Unspoken (at least in the clips I saw) but no doubt weighing heavy on some minds is the question of consequences; if he's still using the stones he could wipe out all the rest of the life on Earth if they piss him off by going back for more. Hell, he was doing that sort of thing long before he got his mitts on a single Infinity Stone.
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Post by merh on Apr 11, 2019 13:50:26 GMT
Rough draft. It's 10:30. Got home an hour ago from Pet Semetary. Widow: he used the stones again Banner: heey, we'd be going in short handed, you know Carol: so let's go get him. We use them to bring them back. Rhodey: look, he still has the stones, so- Banner: just like that. Steve: yeah. Just like that Widow:Even if there is a small chance we can undo this, we owe it to everyone who isnot in this room to try. Banner: if we do this, how do we know this is going to end any different than it did before? Carol: because before you didnt have me. Rhodey: hey, new girl, everybody in this room is about that superhero life. And if you don't mind my asking, where the hell have you been all this time? Carol: there are a hell of a lot of other planets in this universe & unfortunately they didn't have you guys. So... Thor is moping in corner. Widow & Steve seem to want to act, but Rhodey & Banner are dragging BADLEY. Banner-we're short-handed. Thanos is Thanos. It's useless. Right? He DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Rhodey - he has the stones, he's strong.. HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Steve rolls eyes, but I don't think it's at Carol, but at the 2 naysayers. They had Widow & Cap wanting to act, but Banner & Rhodey not wanting to act with Thor on the side not feeling he doesnt have the right to cast a deciding vote in the affairs of man (presumably. He can't be the tie-breaker) so Carol is speaking up. She is casting a vote for action, not inertia. Tesseract powered? Having someone powered by an Infinity stone wouldn't help? Banner and Rhodey are not voting for "inertia". They're voting for caution. Asking for round 2 with the guy that casually demolished your entire team is something that should be considered with greater contemplation. Banner was more hero mode in Ultron. He's had a couple rough years & is more where he was in the first Avengers about hero stuff. Rhodey played with the big boys & got injured seriously Thus it makes sense they would prefer not to play. Carol wants to play Cap wants to play. Widow wants to play. Doing nothing is inertia One of the things they stress in every CPR class I've been to every 2 yrs since around 2006 is you CAN'T make it worse. You can only improve the status of the victim. The basic concept of the good samaritan law is the person is dead. You crack a couple ribs, but revive them, good move. This is the split. Rhodey & Banner don't want to do cpr. The patient is dead. Cap, Widow & Carol want to dive in with the chest compressions
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Post by merh on Apr 11, 2019 13:52:18 GMT
Rough draft. It's 10:30. Got home an hour ago from Pet Semetary. Widow: he used the stones again Banner: heey, we'd be going in short handed, you know Carol: so let's go get him. We use them to bring them back. Rhodey: look, he still has the stones, so- Banner: just like that. Steve: yeah. Just like that Widow:Even if there is a small chance we can undo this, we owe it to everyone who isnot in this room to try. Banner: if we do this, how do we know this is going to end any different than it did before? Carol: because before you didnt have me. Rhodey: hey, new girl, everybody in this room is about that superhero life. And if you don't mind my asking, where the hell have you been all this time? Carol: there are a hell of a lot of other planets in this universe & unfortunately they didn't have you guys. So... Thor is moping in corner. Widow & Steve seem to want to act, but Rhodey & Banner are dragging BADLEY. Banner-we're short-handed. Thanos is Thanos. It's useless. Right? He DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Rhodey - he has the stones, he's strong.. HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACT. Steve rolls eyes, but I don't think it's at Carol, but at the 2 naysayers. They had Widow & Cap wanting to act, but Banner & Rhodey not wanting to act with Thor on the side not feeling he doesnt have the right to cast a deciding vote in the affairs of man (presumably. He can't be the tie-breaker) so Carol is speaking up. She is casting a vote for action, not inertia. Tesseract powered? Having someone powered by an Infinity stone wouldn't help? Do they know that at this juncture? Even if they did they had two Tesseract-powered beings (Vision & Scarlet Witch) last time and still lost. Hulk got curb-stomped so thoroughly when he went toe-to-toe with Thanos he hasn't been seen since ("Nooooo!") and was saved only by the last act of a dying god. It's easy to see how they might be dubious that one person could make all that up and change the odds in their favor.
Unspoken (at least in the clips I saw) but no doubt weighing heavy on some minds is the question of consequences; if he's still using the stones he could wipe out all the rest of the life on Earth if they piss him off by going back for more. Hell, he was doing that sort of thing long before he got his mitts on a single Infinity Stone. So doing nothing has gotten the survivors what? He's using the stones again. Let him keep them? Hasn't been a good thing letting Thanos play god, has it?
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Post by Marendil on Apr 11, 2019 14:21:30 GMT
Do they know that at this juncture? Even if they did they had two Tesseract-powered beings (Vision & Scarlet Witch) last time and still lost. Hulk got curb-stomped so thoroughly when he went toe-to-toe with Thanos he hasn't been seen since ("Nooooo!") and was saved only by the last act of a dying god. It's easy to see how they might be dubious that one person could make all that up and change the odds in their favor.
Unspoken (at least in the clips I saw) but no doubt weighing heavy on some minds is the question of consequences; if he's still using the stones he could wipe out all the rest of the life on Earth if they piss him off by going back for more. Hell, he was doing that sort of thing long before he got his mitts on a single Infinity Stone. So doing nothing has gotten the survivors what? He's using the stones again. Let him keep them? Hasn't been a good thing letting Thanos play god, has it? It sounds like some of them are wondering what the ants can do about the boot.
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