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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 16, 2017 9:16:42 GMT
I first heard about the Dyatlov Pass Incident on the show " Ancient Aliens". Some details below are from wikipedia and you can read more about it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident" The Dyatlov Pass incident refers to the mysterious unsolved deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural Mountains in Russia on February 2, 1959. The experienced trekking group, who were all from the Ural Polytechnical Institute, had established a camp on the slopes of Kholat Syakhl when disaster struck.
During the night something made them tear their way out of their tents from the inside and flee the campsite inadequately dressed in heavy snowfall and sub-zero temperatures.
Soviet investigators determined that six victims died from hypothermia while others showed signs of physical trauma. One victim had a fractured skull while another had brain damage but without any sign of distress to their skull. Additionally, a female team member had her tongue missing." The show " Ancient Aliens", also indicated that some who encountered physical trauma, received very high speed impacts to their bodies. Some of the victims had orange skin. And some had prematurely aged. When I read through the possible explanations of what happened on wikipedia, none of them, by themselves, seem to explain all of the descriptions of the deceased. For example: An Avalanche wouldn't cause a tongue to be missing, and a Yeti couldn't cause people to prematurely age. I supposed it is possible that multiple things could have happened at the same time... But doubtful. So I am left just as confused as most investigators, and have to agree with their conclusion... "The investigation concluded that an "unknown compelling force" had caused the deaths."What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:09:22 GMT
It's not unusual for people suffering from hypothermia to behave strangely. Many of them remove their clothing, complaining of feeling hot.
Some of the other stuff is potentially explainable, too - a missing tongue might have been eaten by a small predator. Fractured skull could have been from a fall. Etc.
Also worth bearing in mind that such stories inevitably grow in the telling and retelling, especially on a show like Ancient Aliens, which is not overly concerned with the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 22:27:37 GMT
That's some crazy fucked up shit right there...
That's all I've got to say about the Dyatlov Pass incident.
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Post by JHA Durant on Feb 18, 2017 5:21:13 GMT
I've heard of that one. Sounds like something out of Doctor Who.
Really bizarre shit, indeed!
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 18, 2017 18:34:00 GMT
A few things.
This is one of my favorite unsolved mysteries: eerie and enjoyable.
For the most part, Graham is correct. I also think Ancient Aliens embellished the truth a bit: I've never heard anything about orange skin or premature aging!
However, according to the Wikipedia article (don't know if it's true or not), the temperature inside the tent was too warm to cause the phenomenon to which Graham refers, called "paradoxical undressing." What is verifiable is the fact that at least some members of the groups were not suffering from this effect, because they had used other clothing to keep warm. Supposedly, too, the paradoxical undressing is not enough to make someone rip a hole in one's tent from the inside and abandon one's shelter.
This may sound conspiracy-esque, albeit not as much as the "it was aliens!" theory, to which I'm sure Ancient Aliens subscribed. I think it had something to do with Soviet military bases, supposedly nearby--nuclear energy, or a weapon, or something. The Soviet authorities quickly closed the case, which is curious but which, I think, fits in with this theory.
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Post by vomisacaasi on Feb 19, 2017 2:44:36 GMT
It is only a mystery if they leave out details. Radiation: The area has a high level of radiation. Tents torn from the inside: The area is avalanche prone. There was an avalanche in the area that nigh. They probably heard the start of it and panicked and tried to get out of there and got lost in the darkness. Tongue missing: Animals will tend to go for the soft fleshy parts of the body first. Especially if the body was frozen. Premature aging: The bodies were not found until later in the spring. Bodies that are frozen like that and go through freeze thaw cycle will show signs of the skin as it thaws and freezes at different rates.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 22, 2017 11:07:07 GMT
There's a so-so film based on this event. I saw it a few months back, it was fine if a little silly at the end and it made no attempt to address the specific curiosities of the case. There's also two or three books, which normally make it a point of pride to 'solve' things. I'm not sure though one can automatically attribute blame to a supposed paranormal though.
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Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 22, 2017 13:22:24 GMT
I saw the case on youtube, but I think his death was natural. I know some will say the aliens or the government killed him because he told his mom to investigate his death. But as some posters here pointed out either hypothermia or radiation killed him.
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Post by number1212 on Feb 25, 2017 6:23:48 GMT
Although the incident was very bizarre, I think it can be explained rationally. They were probably suffering from hypothermia and went crazy. A scavenger probably ate the tongues.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 27, 2017 19:05:09 GMT
I'm a skeptic overall about the whole 'ancient aliens' phenomenon but that example did always fascinate me.
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Post by maya55555 on Mar 4, 2017 2:35:42 GMT
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Post by maya55555 on Apr 26, 2017 20:20:13 GMT
IMO, the campers ran into Russia's equivalent of our Area 51.
Now why these experienced people would make camp at the base of a snow/ice covered mountain------
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 26, 2017 20:28:48 GMT
Now why these experienced people would make camp at the base of a snow/ice covered mountain------ Umm... Have you ever heard of the term "Mountain Climbers"? Maybe they were climbing this one because "It Was There", or because "They Wanted To Get To The Other Side"... Apparently they saw a Yeti, maybe they were searching for Yeti. Maybe they wanted to climb to the top, so they could sled back down.
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Post by maya55555 on Apr 27, 2017 2:12:54 GMT
My question is not unique to me, but was asked by numerous investigators. There was not an inventory. of sleds brought to the site.
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 27, 2017 15:22:36 GMT
My question is not unique to me, but was asked by numerous investigators. There was not an inventory. of sleds brought to the site. I was joking about the sleds. " A group was formed for a ski trek across the northern Urals in Sverdlovsk Oblast. The original group, led by Igor Dyatlov, consisted of eight men and two women. Most were students or graduates of Ural Polytechnical Institute, now Ural Federal University:
The goal of the expedition was to reach Otorten, a mountain 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) north of the site of the incident. This route, in February, was estimated as Category III, the most difficult. All members were experienced in long ski tours and mountain expeditions.
The group arrived by train at Ivdel, a city at the center of the northern province of Sverdlovsk Oblast on January 25. They then took a truck to Vizhai – the last inhabited settlement so far north. They started their march toward Otorten from Vizhai on January 27. The next day, one of the members, Yuri Yudin, was forced to go back due to illness. The remaining group of nine people continued the trek." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
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Post by maya55555 on Apr 29, 2017 23:08:55 GMT
I had asked my Ukrainian limo driver about this event. All he said was hundreds of people go missing and/or die daily. He then shrugged his shoulders.
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 1, 2019 0:45:16 GMT
The incident took place 60 Years Ago (Tomorrow)
It's still unsolved.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 4, 2020 6:35:37 GMT
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Post by hi224 on Jan 5, 2020 0:59:51 GMT
i still think accidental exposure.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 5, 2020 3:10:05 GMT
The parachute mines theory works for me.
Loud noises, they explode mid-air. The campers in the dark would've surely been running, believing for their lives, disoriented.
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