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Post by charzhino on Apr 13, 2019 10:28:28 GMT
Dont forget she also stole that guys motorbike and helmet just because he asked her to smile. Pretty bad example to set to younge girls. But Logan stealing Cyclops's car in X2, that's ok. Hardly call that stealing. They needed transportation to escape the SWAT team. And in X1 he borrows Cykes motorbike then returns it in the beginning of X2. Carol steals a bike of a complete stranger just because she got sensitive over being asked to smile. Thats a disproportionate reaction and unethical.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 13, 2019 11:49:33 GMT
Superman also killed a bunch of unborn Kryptonian babies in Man of Steel.
I'm surprised that gets overlooked.
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Post by James on Apr 13, 2019 11:52:30 GMT
I don’t mind it when people criticize movies for particular reasons.
Just don’t go making an excuse for one movie, when that exact same problem is clear and evident in another movie that you praise. It’s the most hypocritical thing anybody can do to like one movie more than another.
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Post by damngumby on Apr 13, 2019 12:25:33 GMT
In Superman II, Superman gave up his powers. Then Clark and Lois went to a diner, where a bully picked on a powerless Clark. After Superman gets his powers back and defeats Zod, Non, and Ursa, Clark goes back to the diner and teaches the bully a lesson. Then Clark gives the diner owner a wad of cash to pay for the damages. In Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers and Nick Fury are sitting at a table in a bar. Fury asks Carol how would he know she's not a shape-shifting Skrull. Carol shoots a blast at the wall behind Fury and the wall explodes. So Carol destroys the bar and doesn't even pay the bar owner for the damages.
This is 1 of the reasons why I give low ratings to MCU movies. Because MCU heroes constantly abuse their power and think that they don't have to be accountable for their actions. In Superman 2, Superman was the person responsible for releasing the Krypton super villains and subjecting the Earth to extensive death and destruction. Superman never paid for all that damage, nor did he ever appologize to all the famlies of the dead. In the diner, the truck driver did not "pick on" Clark, the guy at first tried to ignore Clark, who wanted the truck drivers seat, even though there were plenty of empty seats at the counter. When the guy wouldn't move (why should he?), Clark tried to start a fight with him. To be clear, it was Clark, not the truck driver, who wanted to escalate the situation to violence. Unfortunately for Clark/Superman, without his powers, he was a complete pussy ... and got his ass kicked. Funniest scene in the movie. It was only after he had regained his unfair alien superpower advantage that he went looking to harrass the truck driver a second time ... and busted up the diner again ... over such a petty grievance. It is highly doubtful that Clark knew the full cost of all the damage he caused, so it is also highly doubtful that the money in his pocket would have been enough to cover it all. Besides, you can't just walk into a public establishment, assault one of the customers, smash it up, endanger the other patrons, and then throw some money around and think that all will be forgiven.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 13, 2019 16:56:10 GMT
But Logan stealing Cyclops's car in X2, that's ok. Hardly call that stealing. They needed transportation to escape the SWAT team. And in X1 he borrows Cykes motorbike then returns it in the beginning of X2. Carol steals a bike of a complete stranger just because she got sensitive over being asked to smile. Thats a disproportionate reaction and unethical. And Carol needed transportation to get to Project Pegasus. What was she suppose to do, take the bus?
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Post by charzhino on Apr 13, 2019 17:28:36 GMT
Hardly call that stealing. They needed transportation to escape the SWAT team. And in X1 he borrows Cykes motorbike then returns it in the beginning of X2. Carol steals a bike of a complete stranger just because she got sensitive over being asked to smile. Thats a disproportionate reaction and unethical. And Carol needed transportation to get to Project Pegasus. What was she suppose to do, take the bus? Thor took the subway in The Dark World to Greenwich
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Post by scabab on Apr 13, 2019 17:59:37 GMT
Thor took the subway in The Dark World to Greenwich But did he pay for a ticket?
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Post by charzhino on Apr 13, 2019 18:23:04 GMT
Thor took the subway in The Dark World to Greenwich But did he pay for a ticket? Probably not but considering an alien was wrecking havoc, hed have been excused. Point is what Disney are insinuating is that if any guy asks a woman to smile, the woman is justified in stealing the guys property as payback.
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Post by scabab on Apr 13, 2019 18:39:21 GMT
True, that's probably why she wasn't as likable as some of the others. She's a bit dickish but not in a likable Wolverine kind of way.
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 13, 2019 20:00:23 GMT
But did he pay for a ticket? Probably not but considering an alien was wrecking havoc, hed have been excused. Point is what Disney are insinuating is that if any guy asks a woman to smile, the woman is justified in stealing the guys property as payback. Really? This smile BS again? Do you not realize she's a Kree, who are typically emotionless?
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Post by charzhino on Apr 13, 2019 20:36:19 GMT
Probably not but considering an alien was wrecking havoc, hed have been excused. Point is what Disney are insinuating is that if any guy asks a woman to smile, the woman is justified in stealing the guys property as payback. Really? This smile BS again? Do you not realize she's a Kree, who are typically emotionless? Do you think the guy deserved to have his motorbike stolen?
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 13, 2019 20:50:46 GMT
Really? This smile BS again? Do you not realize she's a Kree, who are typically emotionless? Do you think the guy deserved to have his motorbike stolen? Isn't stealing a motorbike easier than stealing a car?
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 13, 2019 21:06:47 GMT
And Carol needed transportation to get to Project Pegasus. What was she suppose to do, take the bus? Thor took the subway in The Dark World to Greenwich He got randomly tossed into a station because of Convergence, and he had no time to wait for his hammer to arrive. Also, how is she supposed to take a train even though there was likely no train station nearby?
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 13, 2019 21:13:14 GMT
Dont forget she also stole that guys motorbike and helmet just because he asked her to smile. Pretty bad example to set to younge girls. Then Captain America must be a bad role model since he continues to steal all sorts of stuffs in his solo films - and sometimes, for/with no good reason at all. If I am to expand this to outside the realm of Marvel/DC, Alita practically killed an unarmed man in cold blood. Yes, he was a villain who just had someone killed, but still. My point is, if we are to nitpick characters' actions like this, it would apply to almost anyone.
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Post by raiderjedi on Apr 13, 2019 22:55:49 GMT
Dont forget she also stole that guys motorbike and helmet just because he asked her to smile. Pretty bad example to set to younge girls. Then Captain America must be a bad role model since he continues to steal all sorts of stuffs in his solo films - and sometimes, for/with no good reason at all. If I am to expand this to outside the realm of Marvel/DC, Alita practically killed an unarmed man in cold blood. Yes, he was a villain who just had someone killed, but still. My point is, if we are to nitpick characters' actions like this, it would apply to almost anyone. Ahh you don't know this guy's schtick yet? In DC Fan's world, all the characters in the MCU are TERRIBLE people. No redeemable qualities. Shit, in the world he lives in, The Avengers just stood around for a while telling jokes while the Chitauri wreaked havoc on New York. Ronan was not defeated by the Guardians of the Galaxy using an infinity stone-he was defeatedby a dance off. Marvel's first teaser trailer for Captain Marvel exploited her by showing her almost naked. In Infinity War, Peter doesn't have spider sense, he didn't notice the spaceship over NY until the other kids on the bus pointed it out. And don't even get him started on Kevin Feige. That guy is worse than Hitler. Also, the actual real world actors who play the characters are also bad people. But ANYONE in associated with a DC film is flawless
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Post by merh on Apr 13, 2019 23:17:20 GMT
But Logan stealing Cyclops's car in X2, that's ok. Hardly call that stealing. They needed transportation to escape the SWAT team. And in X1 he borrows Cykes motorbike then returns it in the beginning of X2. Carol steals a bike of a complete stranger just because she got sensitive over being asked to smile. Thats a disproportionate reaction and unethical. She needed a ride. Why not take the jerk's vs some other stranger who might be nice? Karma
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 0:41:23 GMT
Hardly call that stealing. They needed transportation to escape the SWAT team. And in X1 he borrows Cykes motorbike then returns it in the beginning of X2. Carol steals a bike of a complete stranger just because she got sensitive over being asked to smile. Thats a disproportionate reaction and unethical. She needed a ride. Why not take the jerk's vs some other stranger who might be nice? Karma And street rules. The law's against Captain Marvel because she did steal the bike. The court would rule against her. But that's miles away. In the streets, you don't pick fights with people bigger than you. You're not entitled to not be punched in the face for being a bitch on the streets. She just took his bike, so he got off way lucky.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 14, 2019 0:42:31 GMT
Not in the mid 1990's when the movie takes place.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 14, 2019 0:47:26 GMT
And somehow him being a bit of an asshole (nothing even drastic as he was just a bit handsy and threw a beer in Clarks face) resulted in Superman abusing his power by destroying his Truck. And because you usually like to go into such a surreal about of detail about these things... That Truck was a Kenworth T-800. A Google search tells me that these Trucks can cost up to $150,000. Like I said before, that truck driver deserved it for being a huge asshole and harassing the waitress. What did the bar owner in Captain Marvel do to deserve having his bar destroyed? The truck driver may have been an asshole, but that doesn't mean what Kal had done to his truck was the right thing to do, there are much better and mature ways to handle a person like that but instead of being an alpha Kal was being a beta and just took it too far.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 14, 2019 3:18:43 GMT
Like I said before, that truck driver deserved it for being a huge asshole and harassing the waitress. What did the bar owner in Captain Marvel do to deserve having his bar destroyed? The truck driver may have been an asshole, but that doesn't mean what Kal had done to his truck was the right thing to do, there are much better and mature ways to handle a person like that but instead of being an alpha Kal was being a beta and just took it too far. Also, didn't he work at the bar? Couldn't he just escorted the truck driver out for rude behavior?
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