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Post by Arlon10 on May 6, 2019 8:17:49 GMT
I am now and have from an extraordinarily young age been aware of television and aircraft. I have always realized the people in Bible times had none of those. My point is I understand it better than you. The reason you find science so impressive and important is that it is over your head. Science and math come rather easily to me. They always have. Schools have even said so, and they should know. Therefore I am less impressed with science than you are. Now do you see how Dunning Kruger works? I do not expect science to do things it obviously never will, you do. When you say there is no god because golly, gee whiz, aircraft and television, you don't realize how childish that is. The faith in science inspired by your ignorance of it has become a problem in the world. If you like science, then please use it. I really think you can. It's easy for me. It can't be all that difficult for you. Thanks Captain Obvious from Planet Arlon. Now, perhaps you can describe how and why we now have television and aircraft. Are you sure that your god didn't 'create' them? ...says the person who posted at length a really stupid argument (one of so many on here by you) that heart lung transplants don't take place. You wouldn't know a scientific argument of it bit you n the arse and you are always just embarrassing yourself with your Dunning Kruger like ignorance and arrogance. Gee what a shame such a brilliant student as you think of yourself didn't put his skills to work and actually achieve something beyond delusional nonsense o a message bard and stupid blog site! How and why? AS stated above science s busy solving all of the long held mysteries of how and why things work. It can only be of benefit to mankind and here you are typing on a computer. What is the problem? Surely it is only with scientific technology that we can even attempt to reign in climate change, weapons of mass destruction and their use or outbreaks of disease caused by mutation in destructive organisms? Yes, you are exhibiting it absolutely brilliantly for all to see. ...like TV aircraft and heart lung transplants, splitting atoms, seeing into black holes curing diseases etc etc etc? It does OK. I await with interest how you answer to my question whether your God created TV and aircraft as a result of this uber stupid non-sequitur! There is no God because so far as we know there is NO evidence for one and everything here on earth is explained by natural processes that work along natural laws and can gradually be explained by scientific method, progressively as the compendium of modern science is added to and updated with new discoveries and modification of old ones as new information is revealed . There you go Dunning Kruger poster boy! YOU think you know about 'science' yet everything you have stated above says the reverse, yet you arrogantly claim to know about it on the one hand and yet reject it on the other. You cannot have it both ways. Because I can read and I can research in books and journals and on the internet I can stand back and admire the work of career scientists. I can try to understand it, support it and realise that better brains than mine ( and more so yours that is so obviously wasted if you are really that smart) have made our world a better and safer place despite and instead of your alleged God. BTW I treat you with respect in answering all your guff however you really are a delusional old goat who has unfounded delusions of grandeur! Perhaps I wasn't clear. From a very young age I built radios and flew model airplanes. Other reasons I am less impressed with them include that most of the people I see on television are idiots and I wouldn't bother to get on a plane to visit them. Whether my "god" "created" television and aircraft I suppose god works through humans most of the time. Most creative scientists are very godly people. I forget in which episode of Star Trek it was that they landed amidst an apparently backward and rural civilization only to finally realize that culture was far more advanced, however spiritually, than the Federation and the Kling-ons combined. That's fiction, I know, but the notion could be born out in reality. Your claim that you can read and research science is called into question by the fact that I can (surprise) and I am therefore in a better position than you to tell who else can. By your own admission it is over head, so stop telling me I can't read. Although I still haven't seen a heart transplant, unlike you I don't conclude they don't exist. That's a problem you have, not I. You haven't seen evidence of god so you conclude it doesn't exist. You need to accept that just because you haven't seen something is not very good reason to conclude very much. There are however such things as negative proofs albeit with a very large scope in many cases.
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Post by faustus5 on May 6, 2019 10:38:40 GMT
You haven't seen evidence of god so you conclude it doesn't exist. You need to accept that just because you haven't seen something is not very good reason to conclude very much. Nobody has seen evidence for god. Very different than a heart transplant.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 6, 2019 11:33:42 GMT
You haven't seen evidence of god so you conclude it doesn't exist. You need to accept that just because you haven't seen something is not very good reason to conclude very much. Nobody has seen evidence for god. Very different than a heart transplant. I'm sure they have seen evidence you are not the arbiter of what is or is not evidence to anyone but yourself.
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Post by faustus5 on May 6, 2019 12:18:36 GMT
Nobody has seen evidence for god. Very different than a heart transplant. I'm sure they have seen evidence you are not the arbiter of what is or is not evidence to anyone but yourself. I'm actually a very good arbiter of what counts as evidence or not, quality evidence or not. Don't project your own incompetence on others.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 6, 2019 22:18:07 GMT
I'm sure they have seen evidence you are not the arbiter of what is or is not evidence to anyone but yourself. I'm actually a very good arbiter of what counts as evidence or not, quality evidence or not. Don't project your own incompetence on others. Where? On Facebook?
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Post by faustus5 on May 7, 2019 2:27:34 GMT
I'm actually a very good arbiter of what counts as evidence or not, quality evidence or not. Don't project your own incompetence on others. Where? On Facebook? Anywhere one wants to ask. Care to deal with specifics, either using actual "evidence" claims that have been made by real people or hypothetical ones?
Of course not. You can't do specifics. Your entire act is built on empty hot air.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 7, 2019 11:18:53 GMT
Anywhere one wants to ask. Care to deal with specifics, either using actual "evidence" claims that have been made by real people or hypothetical ones?
Of course not. You can't do specifics. Your entire act is built on empty hot air. I'm still waiting to see the proof of relativity that only requires equipment ordinarily available to high school science laboratories that someone here thought they could arrange pictures of it in their garage.
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Post by faustus5 on May 7, 2019 17:08:22 GMT
I'm still waiting to see the proof of relativity that only requires equipment ordinarily available to high school science laboratories that someone here thought they could arrange pictures of it in their garage. Predictable evasion has been duly noted, and another opportunity to show you know what you are talking about is wasted.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 13, 2019 20:30:16 GMT
I'm still waiting to see the proof of relativity that only requires equipment ordinarily available to high school science laboratories that someone here thought they could arrange pictures of it in their garage. Predictable evasion has been duly noted, and another opportunity to show you know what you are talking about is wasted. And yet another opportunity to be an absolute fucking douchebag was seized to its fullest by you...
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 13, 2019 20:31:38 GMT
Anywhere one wants to ask. Care to deal with specifics, either using actual "evidence" claims that have been made by real people or hypothetical ones?
Of course not. You can't do specifics. Your entire act is built on empty hot air. You mean like your pithy, pointless shitposts where you call people cheesy insults that reflect more what an underlaid, incel loser you are than anything bad about them?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 13, 2019 20:32:40 GMT
Anywhere one wants to ask. Care to deal with specifics, either using actual "evidence" claims that have been made by real people or hypothetical ones?
Of course not. You can't do specifics. Your entire act is built on empty hot air. You mean like your pithy, pointless shitposts where you call people cheesy insults that reflect more what an underlaid, incel loser you are than anything bad about them?
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