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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 17, 2019 21:35:20 GMT
Your sister doesnt like me ( boo-hoo) jon looked annoyed tried reason with her and made a joke she didnt like me much growing up either
dany goes on seriously If your sister doesnt respect me ..... she got interrupted by the drothraki informing her -her lizards are not eating ...
hello??? jon wake up ? this woman is ready to burn sansa for not respecting her
her madness has no ends.
I think jon is afraid of her and i hate they make him appear so weak just because she has dragons .
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 18, 2019 8:51:20 GMT
Your sister doesnt like me ( boo-hoo) jon looked annoyed tried reason with her and made a joke she didnt like me much growing up either dany goes on seriously If your sister doesnt respect me ..... she got interrupted by the drothraki informing her -her lizards are not eating ... hello??? jon wake up ? this woman is ready to burn sansa for not respecting her her madness has no ends. Daenerys incarnates the winning left in all its stench. It wants to be seen as the inflated saviour of everything and everyone from whatever came before, which it doesn't even know properly but solemnly condemns from the height of its new self-made morals, tailored to its own advantage. It claims to "break the wheel" and wants respect before it even started anything, threatening with utter dismissal or worse while denying all else the right to judge anything. Daenerys is not mad. She represents a good half of what we have to live with. Showing them open rejection is a necessity.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 18, 2019 10:16:57 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 18, 2019 11:17:11 GMT
Meh, she did the same thing to Jon
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 18, 2019 16:13:52 GMT
thats how pathetic dany stans are !! more here sansa : what do dragons eat anyway ? d@ny : … d@ny : whatever they want d@ny : …. d@ny : which means YOU , if I tell them so. *later that day* d@ny : Jon, your sister doesn’t like me very much. she set up that so conveniently didnt she? jon looked annoyed and really didnt want to talk about sansa to her and then told her if it makes you feel any better she didnt like me either growing up . they were interrupted by the drothraki informing dany that her dragons are not eating... rolling eyes dany may do something bad to sansa try to poison her or burn her shes already trying to make jon turn against her . I remember something cersei told sansa i think S2 Love is a poison. A sweet one, yes, but it will kill you all the same. dany/sansa /jon and this season is all about that
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 18, 2019 16:25:51 GMT
dany may do something bad to sansa try to poison her or burn her shes already trying to make jon turn against her . I remember something cersei told sansa i think S2 Love is a poison. A sweet one, yes, but it will kill you all the same. dany/sansa /jon and this season is all about that There could be some of that, the question would be who is the poisoned one. Cersei's words were about the loving ones poisoning themselves by becoming dependent or vulnerable. This is why she couldn't call Jaime back when he left. She wouldn't allow herself to do so. So who is or are the loving ones in this trio? Sansa and Jon are obvious, they love each other at least as siblings who have seen most of their family destroyed. Both are valuable to each other in ways which can make them act. The relationship between Jon and Daenerys is the real unknown. How much would they care for each other? From what I read, it doesn't seem that solid but I would expect the writers to bring some of it into the game anyway, so there can be some inner conflict. But then, maybe there just isn't enough story left for this and we'll see that pairing fall apart in the next episode already.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 18, 2019 17:00:16 GMT
dany may do something bad to sansa try to poison her or burn her shes already trying to make jon turn against her . I remember something cersei told sansa i think S2 Love is a poison. A sweet one, yes, but it will kill you all the same. dany/sansa /jon and this season is all about that There could be some of that, the question would be who is the poisoned one. Cersei's words were about the loving ones poisoning themselves by becoming dependent or vulnerable. This is why she couldn't call Jaime back when he left. She wouldn't allow herself to do so. So who is or are the loving ones in this trio? Sansa and Jon are obvious, they love each other at least as siblings who have seen most of their family destroyed. Both are valuable to each other in ways which can make them act. The relationship between Jon and Daenerys is the real unknown. How much would they care for each other? From what I read, it doesn't seem that solid but I would expect the writers to bring some of it into the game anyway, so there can be some inner conflict. But then, maybe there just isn't enough story left for this and we'll see that pairing fall apart in the next episode already. i hope that is what it meant when cersei said that daenerys doesnt like sansa and she already sees her as competition if dany finds out the truth that jon and sansa are only cousins she wont like it she will start viewing sansa as another sort of different competition for jons affections anyway she will notice something soon ,love sometimes makes you mad and in danys case well .. even from episode 1 when jon greeted hugged sansa ,dany had a face she didnt like it then tried to butter her up by saying some stupid stuff shes beautiful just like the north
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Post by Marv on Apr 18, 2019 17:24:09 GMT
Meh, she did the same thing to Jon You think Dany and Sansas relationship could follow a similar path? Because I could forgive a lot if that were the case. What a song of ice and fire...amiright?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 18, 2019 17:46:28 GMT
Meh, she did the same thing to Jon You think Dany and Sansas relationship could follow a similar path? Because I could forgive a lot if that were the case. What a song of ice and fire...amiright? It wouldn't take much. Their reaction to her is largely a result of Jon giving in to her. They don't know that her rulership style which is pretty mild if you aren't an enemy. Anyone who has been around Dany has grown to love her if they aren't her enemy. There's no reason to think it will be different with Sansa.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 18, 2019 17:48:22 GMT
That's also one of the things that annoyed me about Sam's reaction. His family was an enemy of hers and yet she wasn;t supposed to kill them after they turned on her allies?
My opinion is Jon would have done the same thing if not for them being related to Sam which was no Dany's problem. After all, Jon hung a kid for rebellion.
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Post by Marv on Apr 18, 2019 18:02:53 GMT
You think Dany and Sansas relationship could follow a similar path? Because I could forgive a lot if that were the case. What a song of ice and fire...amiright? It wouldn't take much. Their reaction to her is largely a result of Jon giving in to her. They don't know that her rulership style which is pretty mild if you aren't an enemy. Anyone who has been around Dany has grown to love her if they aren't her enemy. There's no reason to think it will be different with Sansa. I was mostly talking about the sex.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 18, 2019 19:34:42 GMT
It wouldn't take much. Their reaction to her is largely a result of Jon giving in to her. They don't know that her rulership style which is pretty mild if you aren't an enemy. Anyone who has been around Dany has grown to love her if they aren't her enemy. There's no reason to think it will be different with Sansa. I was mostly talking about the sex. Its Game of Thrones. It could practically be titled Keep It in the Family.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 18, 2019 20:02:41 GMT
That's also one of the things that annoyed me about Sam's reaction. His family was an enemy of hers and yet she wasn;t supposed to kill them after they turned on her allies? My opinion is Jon would have done the same thing if not for them being related to Sam which was no Dany's problem. After all, Jon hung a kid for rebellion. Excuse me cool j but I disagree with you Jon never executed anyone becasue they didn't bend the knee for him he executed for other reasons they STABBED him hello? ? but never because someone didn't kneel for him which is what Dany did BURNED ALIVE the tarlys because they wouldn't bend the knee for her BIG difference this is why Sam pointed that out to Jon land aksed him if he would have done the same don't even try to compare to what Dany is doing with Jon NEVER Jon is not ruthless he does punish or beheads but doesn't torture people like Ramsey , Dany , Joffrey get a pleasure doing that that's how she shows her power and Sam had every right to feel heartbroken that was his family no matter what I felt so bad for him first got the news his father was executed then said well at least my brother now can be lord , guess what he was burned too , and she just stood there like a stoic cold -------you know what fill in the blank It seems to me Dany Stan fans are mad because Sam doesn't like her too bad I told you all way back her actions would come to bite her in the ass and it has
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 18, 2019 20:15:59 GMT
That's also one of the things that annoyed me about Sam's reaction. His family was an enemy of hers and yet she wasn;t supposed to kill them after they turned on her allies? My opinion is Jon would have done the same thing if not for them being related to Sam which was no Dany's problem. After all, Jon hung a kid for rebellion. Excuse me cool j but I disagree with you Jon never executed anyone becasue they didn't bend the knee for him he executed for other reasons they STABBED him hello? ? but never because someone didn't kneel for him which is what Dany did BURNED ALIVE the tarlys because they wouldn't bend the knee for her BIG difference this is why Sam pointed that out to Jon land aksed him if he would have done the same don't even try to compare to what Dany is doing with Jon NEVER Jon is not ruthless he does punish or beheads but doesn't torture people like Ramsey , Dany , Joffrey get a pleasure doing that that's how she shows her power and Sam had every right to feel heartbroken that was his family no matter what I felt so bad for him first got the news his father was executed then said well at least my brother now can be lord , guess what he was burned too , and she just stood there like a stoic cold -------you know what fill in the blank It seems to me Dany Stan fans are mad because Sam doesn't like her too bad I told you all way back her actions would come to bite her in the ass and it has It doesn’t matter why he executes then. Dany executes the Tarleys because they were enemies. They rebelled against their own Great House, helped kill scores of her army, and she was throwing them a very easy bone that they refused completely and paid the price they knew they would pay. Sam has every reason to be heartbroken but also should understand that his family was going to facing Jon and his family once e side with the Lannister’s. War is always about death. Sam should be grieving but he should also try to figure out how to get the Highlands to join.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 18, 2019 22:15:38 GMT
Excuse me cool j but I disagree with you Jon never executed anyone becasue they didn't bend the knee for him he executed for other reasons they STABBED him hello? ? but never because someone didn't kneel for him which is what Dany did BURNED ALIVE the tarlys because they wouldn't bend the knee for her BIG difference this is why Sam pointed that out to Jon land aksed him if he would have done the same don't even try to compare to what Dany is doing with Jon NEVER Jon is not ruthless he does punish or beheads but doesn't torture people like Ramsey , Dany , Joffrey get a pleasure doing that that's how she shows her power and Sam had every right to feel heartbroken that was his family no matter what I felt so bad for him first got the news his father was executed then said well at least my brother now can be lord , guess what he was burned too , and she just stood there like a stoic cold -------you know what fill in the blank It seems to me Dany Stan fans are mad because Sam doesn't like her too bad I told you all way back her actions would come to bite her in the ass and it has It doesn’t matter why he executes then. Dany executes the Tarleys because they were enemies. They rebelled against their own Great House, helped kill scores of her army, and she was throwing them a very easy bone that they refused completely and paid the price they knew they would pay. Sam has every reason to be heartbroken but also should understand that his family was going to facing Jon and his family once e side with the Lannister’s. War is always about death. Sam should be grieving but he should also try to figure out how to get the Highlands to join. So prisoners of war doesn't exist in danys world ? She could always kept them her prisoners Let me ask you this do you think Tyrion is stupid ? I think many even people who hate him would have to admit he is a good man thinker why do you think then he pleaded with her NOT to burn them ? A tyrant burns not a good smart ruler Tyrion knew the consequences of this and sure enough it came back to haunt her , yes war is all about death but not like that , and don't forget it is Dany who keeps preaching wants to make the world a better place and her way is not the way to do it , when stannis another mad targaryen when he captured mance /wildings he burned him Jon couldn't even watch he even burned his own daughter that's freaking madness , Dany would have approved , she had no problem sacrificing her own child and khals horse for blood magic she is so different from Jon night and day ,oh and Jon never executed wildings when he captured them they were his prisoners and now the wildings consider him their friend tormund is one jons best friends , maybe if Dany had given the tarllys a chance maybe Dickon would have backed her up if reunited with his brother and talked things over she messed up BIG time
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 18, 2019 22:20:59 GMT
You think Dany and Sansas relationship could follow a similar path? Because I could forgive a lot if that were the case. What a song of ice and fire...amiright? It wouldn't take much. Their reaction to her is largely a result of Jon giving in to her. Sophie Turner just said the same in her interview.
I think that it is just a matter of time that things resolve between them (unless one of the 3 dies). But after fighting and when humanity survives I can see peace between all 3 characters. Then the enemy would be Cersei.
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Post by Marv on Apr 18, 2019 22:27:26 GMT
To be fair she is modeling herself after Aegon the Conqueror. Aegon was most likely feared and/or loathed far more than he was loved. The problem with Dany is she still wants to be loved while she incites fear and anger.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 18, 2019 23:06:36 GMT
To be fair she is modeling herself after Aegon the Conqueror. Aegon was most likely feared and/or loathed far more than he was loved. The problem with Dany is she still wants to be loved while she incites fear and anger. I don’t think she is interested in being loved. The things she does results in people loving her. She has that in common with Jon. At the end of the day she is not a diplomat. She is a God figure who loves and blesses her followers and completely destroys her enemies.
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Post by Marv on Apr 18, 2019 23:25:49 GMT
To be fair she is modeling herself after Aegon the Conqueror. Aegon was most likely feared and/or loathed far more than he was loved. The problem with Dany is she still wants to be loved while she incites fear and anger. I don’t think she is interested in being loved. The things she does results in people loving her. She has that in common with Jon. At the end of the day she is not a diplomat. She is a God figure who loves and blesses her followers and completely destroys her enemies. Thats a fair assessment.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 19, 2019 4:04:45 GMT
That's also one of the things that annoyed me about Sam's reaction. His family was an enemy of hers and yet she wasn;t supposed to kill them after they turned on her allies? My opinion is Jon would have done the same thing if not for them being related to Sam which was no Dany's problem. After all, Jon hung a kid for rebellion. Excuse me cool j but I disagree with you Jon never executed anyone becasue they didn't bend the knee for him he executed for other reasons they STABBED him hello? ? but never because someone didn't kneel for him which is what Dany did BURNED ALIVE the tarlys because they wouldn't bend the knee for her BIG difference this is why Sam pointed that out to Jon land aksed him if he would have done the same don't even try to compare to what Dany is doing with Jon NEVER Jon is not ruthless he does punish or beheads but doesn't torture people like Ramsey , Dany , Joffrey get a pleasure doing that that's how she shows her power and Sam had every right to feel heartbroken that was his family no matter what I felt so bad for him first got the news his father was executed then said well at least my brother now can be lord , guess what he was burned too , and she just stood there like a stoic cold -------you know what fill in the blank It seems to me Dany Stan fans are mad because Sam doesn't like her too bad I told you all way back her actions would come to bite her in the ass and it has Welcome back!
Jon executed Janos Slynt for refusing orders after he recanted and begged for mercy on his knees with his head on the block.
The Tarlys betrayed the Tyrells and Queen Daenerys after Queen Margaery, Lord Mace Tyrell and the heir Ser Loras Tyrell were murdered along with hundreds of others by the mother of the King, who seized the Crown without anything resembling a legitimate claim. The Lannisters--with the assistance of the Tarlys--stole the wealth of Highgarden and plundered the riches of the Reach, their bountiful harvest so much more valuable than gold with winter coming. Unbelievably merciful, Queen Daenerys Targaryen offered them clemency, retaining their lives, lands and titles, if they'd swear allegiance to her (again) yet they refused.
They were not prisoners, they were criminals guilty of high treason and slaughtered many of their own countrymen in the above endeavor.
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