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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 19, 2019 16:24:35 GMT
I'm a bit confused. What exactly is your complaint against Hemsworth here? He was perfectly friendly and courteous with Brie throughout their interviews. I don't have a problem with either performer. I adore Hemsworth. He seems a gentleman. I don't think he's all that worried about Brie Larson like the alt-right/gamergate crowd seems to be. So why'd he unfollow her?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 19, 2019 16:34:36 GMT
Brie Larson should have got down on her knees when he compared her to Cruise. He is a FAR better actor than her and maybe the best stunt guy out there when it comes to mainstream actors. Tom Cruise? Known more for being in a cult than his acting skills or lack thereof? Yes, Tom Cruise - the guy in the subject heading, how did you forget that? Yes, he is part of a cult and is that cult's poster boy, however, he is known more for his movie star status and his acting skills. I will admit Cruise is not as strong of a performer as he used to be like in the 1980s and 1990s(most roles he takes on today are basically variations of Ethan Hunt from Mission: Impossible) but he's still pretty darn charismatic(more than Larson I must say) and a more convincing action star than Larson that is for sure(She does not look like a natural fit for her character at all, she sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the Avengers cast). BUT - we're talking about stunt performing generally, and compared to Cruise Larson has done nothing to brag about, Cruise however, well, look at the video.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 19, 2019 16:36:46 GMT
I celebrate 59 years on this planet next month. Like when he jumped the couch on Oprah, was it? Dude, my husband LOVED Risky Business when it came out. My mother-in-law LOVED Tom Cruise. I like a lot of actors. Sean Connery is cool, even if he did think it was ok to beat your wife up sometimes. Sexy as hell voice. When I asked my mother-in-law who was OLDER than Connery, she said he's too old.( it was something about Legendary Gentlemen. She wondered why I would want to see it. I said Sean Connery who could pitch adult diapers & make it sound like we all need them) She watched every Tom Cruise movie out there. Maybe not the vampire one. Good film. Ridiculed ENDLESSLY when released as Tom Cruise being the Last Samurai. His career has cooled & reheated a few times. The entertainment press is vicious, love downward spirals so they've counted him down more than once. Oh my god... So I just looked at top grossing films of all time Domestic. War of the Worlds, his HIGHEST grossing film-clocks in at 140-$234 million. He has made 40 films for a lifetime gross of almost $4 billion (about $3 mill shy) averaging $99 mill(almost $100 mill) per film. Chris Hemsworth has made 19 films just breaking $3 billion (by $80 mill) so his average per film is $162 mill. Brie Larson has been in 10 releases so far just shy of $900 mill or an average of almost $90 mill($72 thousand shy). Really? Dude. Ha ha. Seriously? Chris Hemsworth is in the Avengers movies. Those movies make billions. Cruise carries movies by himself. He is a far better actor than Hemsworth, whom I like. It is not even worth arguing about Larson. She is a horrible actress. Cruise blows her so far out of the water that arguing she is better just seems like trolling at this point.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 19, 2019 16:48:36 GMT
Not trying to be mean but NOTHING at all in that video indicated guys take themselves too seriously. Cheese flat ass eyes were popping out of her head she was so angry. How dare that old meanie compare her to the most successful action star of all time, right sweetie? It's painfully obvious to all but the most pathetically stupid and biased that ms marvel was the one taking itself too serious. Again I'm not trying to be mean to you but I seriously would like to know if you're delusional or just a misandrist. Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B? Angry? It is called banter. At around 1:25 the interviewer says Hemsworth's stand-in wants him to do a handstand. Hemsworth says he can't, why would "Bob" say that? Bob can apparently do a handstand for an hour. This is where the Larson bit comes up. They seem ok throughout the video, dude. Misandrist? You are that wounded? Yeah. I'm turning 59 in a month. I have joked with other gals behind guys' backs about how we have to keep boosting your frail little egos, but you all are really taking this to a new level. You know, like guys joke women can't do this or that Gals joke about you guys needing a woman to save you, but i was married for 21 yrs until I found him dead. Yeah, he raped me & hit me, but that's marriage, isn't it? You know- "Man makes your hair grey. He's your life's mistake. All you're really looking for is an even break. He lies right at you You know you hate this game. Slaps you once i awhile & you live & love in pain. You cry alone at night too often. He smokes & drinks & don't come home at all Only women bleed." -Alice Cooper 1975 So make up whatever image you need to so you don't have to think about what anyone says that doesnt fit your worldview. You're on the verge of turning 59?! Sorry. not buying it, you type like an anti-social teen trying to learn how to have grown-up conversations, if you are as you claim lord almighty its pretty sad how your comprehension of body language isn't very good - I'm sorry but the interviewer is more relaxed and ecstatic than all three of them in the video. It is *very* easy to read that Hemsworth and Cheadle are not comfortable being around Larson and Larson does not like to be around them, either, nor is she happy with anybody else's character having their moment than her own. For pete's sake, you can eve hear Cheadle's rapid heartbeat while watching this interview - he wants it to be over and quick and not around Larson anymore. Compare this to any other interview they give with other cast members its like a night and day difference. There was also a recent interview with Larson and Jeremy Renner - boy did he seem happy to be around her *sarcasm*.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 19, 2019 16:51:46 GMT
Ah. You all think I'm saying the guys in the interview take themselves seriously? Oh, hell, no. Hemsworth seems pretty laid back. Its too many fanboys these days who are so damned serious. You should be a comedian, you're very good at it apparently - the details in the video you shared, neither Hemsworth or Cheadle are happy to be around Larson, and Larson isn't fond of either of them and her ego is making everyone uncomfortable.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 19, 2019 17:06:41 GMT
I celebrate 59 years on this planet next month. Like when he jumped the couch on Oprah, was it? Dude, my husband LOVED Risky Business when it came out. My mother-in-law LOVED Tom Cruise. I like a lot of actors. Sean Connery is cool, even if he did think it was ok to beat your wife up sometimes. Sexy as hell voice. When I asked my mother-in-law who was OLDER than Connery, she said he's too old.( it was something about Legendary Gentlemen. She wondered why I would want to see it. I said Sean Connery who could pitch adult diapers & make it sound like we all need them) She watched every Tom Cruise movie out there. Maybe not the vampire one. Good film. Ridiculed ENDLESSLY when released as Tom Cruise being the Last Samurai. His career has cooled & reheated a few times. The entertainment press is vicious, love downward spirals so they've counted him down more than once. Oh my god... So I just looked at top grossing films of all time Domestic. War of the Worlds, his HIGHEST grossing film-clocks in at 140-$234 million. He has made 40 films for a lifetime gross of almost $4 billion (about $3 mill shy) averaging $99 mill(almost $100 mill) per film. Chris Hemsworth has made 19 films just breaking $3 billion (by $80 mill) so his average per film is $162 mill. Brie Larson has been in 10 releases so far just shy of $900 mill or an average of almost $90 mill($72 thousand shy). Really? Dude. Ha ha. Seriously? Chris Hemsworth is in the Avengers movies. Those movies make billions. Cruise carries movies by himself. He is a far better actor than Hemsworth, whom I like. It is not even worth arguing about Larson. She is a horrible actress. Cruise blows her so far out of the water that arguing she is better just seems like trolling at this point. I really doubt merh is going on 59, if they are oh boy that is pretty sad - and let us not forget DC-Fan is probably the same age or older, also sad. I do disagree about Larson's acting though but she's better suited for drama and comedy as opposed to something like a Marvel movie she just isn't a believable enough action star - Emily Blunt, Yvonne Strahovski, Natalie Dormer, Katheryn Winnick, Rebecca Ferguson, and Teresa Palmer would've all been better.
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Post by poelzig on Apr 19, 2019 21:59:42 GMT
Not trying to be mean but NOTHING at all in that video indicated guys take themselves too seriously. Cheese flat ass eyes were popping out of her head she was so angry. How dare that old meanie compare her to the most successful action star of all time, right sweetie? It's painfully obvious to all but the most pathetically stupid and biased that ms marvel was the one taking itself too serious. Again I'm not trying to be mean to you but I seriously would like to know if you're delusional or just a misandrist. Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B? Angry? It is called banter. At around 1:25 the interviewer says Hemsworth's stand-in wants him to do a handstand. Hemsworth says he can't, why would "Bob" say that? Bob can apparently do a handstand for an hour. This is where the Larson bit comes up. They seem ok throughout the video, dude. Misandrist? You are that wounded? Yeah. I'm turning 59 in a month. I have joked with other gals behind guys' backs about how we have to keep boosting your frail little egos, but you all are really taking this to a new level. You know, like guys joke women can't do this or that Gals joke about you guys needing a woman to save you, but i was married for 21 yrs until I found him dead. Yeah, he raped me & hit me, but that's marriage, isn't it? You know- "Man makes your hair grey. He's your life's mistake. All you're really looking for is an even break. He lies right at you You know you hate this game. Slaps you once i awhile & you live & love in pain. You cry alone at night too often. He smokes & drinks & don't come home at all Only women bleed." -Alice Cooper 1975 So make up whatever image you need to so you don't have to think about what anyone says that doesnt fit your worldview. So now it's banter? But you said Thor was taking himself too seriously. Oh so it's banter when the woman is a bitch but when the guy makes a joke ALL guys take themselves too seriously, right? Much like other types of bigots, hate filled misandrists like yourself never admit they are bigots. Your bad you married a drunken sack of shit that beat your ass but you could have easily left him at any time so no sympathy here because you were so pathetic you never left the guy. Since you are a hate filled shrew that generalizes all men I could do the same and ponder if that meant all women are desperate to have some guy any guy in their lives even drunken rapists but unlike you I'm not an idiot. Be assured your gal pals that you spewed vitriol about men with said that behind your back tho as they discussed what a pathetic needy cow you were for allowing your loser hubby to beat and rape you. Not to mention how f ed up your kids are growing up in that toxic environment. And the grandkids too. Congrats on spreading your failure to your descendants. Hey granny did one of your geriatric rock heroes write a song about pathetic women that stupidly stayed in a horrible relationship thus dooming their kids and grandkids and so on and so on? Jot those lyrics down for us so we can all have a good laugh at your expense. Have a blessed day and a hoppy easter.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 19, 2019 22:30:14 GMT
Woah woah. I don't always agree with merh on stuff but maybe let's bring it down a notch? No need for all the name calling.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 20, 2019 2:08:49 GMT
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Post by poelzig on Apr 20, 2019 5:04:16 GMT
politicidalI have a dry wit so y'all don't know when I'm joking. I've read dozens of times on this site over the last few days that the savior of all swarthy women, brie larson, has a dry wit so what appears to be vitriol is just humor. What's an excuse for the gander is an excuse for the goose, right? Also merh has hurled more insults than I have and they were aimed at ALL men. Whereas I just pointed out that SHE, singular, is catty and mean spirited. Why don't you feel the need to tell her to tone it down? Is this a gender or race thing because it sure feels that way. I know YOU have called me out i.e. insulted me NUMEROUS times on NUMEROUS boards as recently as 2 days ago without me replying to your jabs. In fact your snarky little comments hurled at ME are never because I said something to YOU. You go out of your way to read my posts and then insult me. So it's hard not to feel this is some personal animosity you have against me. I hope that's not the case since I have nothing against you. Other than your thinly veiled hatred towards me of course. I would appreciate you at least pretend to be non biased if you find it necessary to address me in the future. Hope you had a good friday.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 20, 2019 6:58:51 GMT
politicidal I have a dry wit so y'all don't know when I'm joking. I've read dozens of times on this site over the last few days that the savior of all swarthy women, brie larson, has a dry wit so what appears to be vitriol is just humor. What's an excuse for the gander is an excuse for the goose, right? Also merh has hurled more insults than I have and they were aimed at ALL men. Whereas I just pointed out that SHE, singular, is catty and mean spirited. Why don't you feel the need to tell her to tone it down? Is this a gender or race thing because it sure feels that way. I know YOU have called me out i.e. insulted me NUMEROUS times on NUMEROUS boards as recently as 2 days ago without me replying to your jabs. In fact your snarky little comments hurled at ME are never because I said something to YOU. You go out of your way to read my posts and then insult me. So it's hard not to feel this is some personal animosity you have against me. I hope that's not the case since I have nothing against you. Other than your thinly veiled hatred towards me of course. I would appreciate you at least pretend to be non biased if you find it necessary to address me in the future. Hope you had a good friday. Lighten up, Francis.
There was nothing funny about that, it was viscous, personal and I find it unbelievable anyone can be so myopic as to think someone could read your post compared to merh's and think hers was the hate-filled one.
Seen in context there's also nothing remarkable about Brie Larson in that or any of the other interviews, nor any discernible 'body language' indications from Don Cheadle or Chris Hemsworth they were uncomfortable with Brie or anything outside accidentally letting a spoiler slip or getting killed or injured doing stunts. The top 'reporter' on this 'issue' appeared to be John F. Trent, the 'drinker of soyboy tears,' who was last seen trying to find one piece of reliable evidence that Disney had bought up tickets to Captain Marvel's premier. There's also nothing to indicate Chris Hemsworth 'unfollowed' Brie Larson, someone just made that up as it appears they never followed each other in the first place.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 20, 2019 7:28:02 GMT
Hope she gets recast for being unprofessional
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Post by dazz on Apr 20, 2019 7:39:48 GMT
Chris Hemsworth has made 19 films just breaking $3 billion (by $80 mill) so his average per film is $162 mill. Brie Larson has been in 10 releases so far just shy of $900 mill or an average of almost $90 mill($72 thousand shy). Really? Dude. Iirc wasn't Last Samurai shit upon because not that Cruise was "The Last Samurai" but he played the white saviour trope, but even then it's got generally favourable reviews and was nominated for multiple Oscars.
In regards to box offices, and believe me I am not a huge Cruise fan, I feel his "star" power is way overrated these days, but you are using such silly metrics to judge them on, take away the major pre existing IP's the actors have and films where they are not the star but merely are in the films, so Cruise loses the MI franchise and War of the Worlds, Hemsworth loses every film that grossed over $100m as does Brie, her highest grosser being $33m, his being $45m, Cruise however clocks in at $179.8m, and that's not adjusting for inflation at which point Cruise jumps way up to $433m his highest domestic earner when adjusted, and theirs goes up to under $40m for Brie and just over $50m for Hermsworth, whether I like him or not Cruise was a massive star back in the day, outside of major IP's he has had numerous $100m+ domestic winners, Brie & Hemsworth haven't yet.
Domestically Brie's career total if you take of those big IP's of someone else's film clocks in at under $93m for an average of under $15.5m, Hemsworth's totals $226m at an average of $25.1m, Cruise on the other hand still racks in a domestic total of $2.6b with an average of $79m, 5 times that of Bree's average, 3 times that of Hemsworth's, kicker being those numbers are slanted to benefit Brie & Hemsworth as that's unadjusted, you adjust for inflation and Cruise's career earnings go up by 75% so his Average gets closer to $137m most likely, so that's 9 times Brie's and 5.5 times Hemsworth's.
So yeah really when people doubt how big some people will get today compared to the past it makes sense, though yeah Cruise is a fucking lunatic in more ways than one, I think only a select few people would argue that to be honest, but doesn't take away from how big he was as a movie star and how interchangeable a lot of big name actors seem to be these days.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 20, 2019 12:37:18 GMT
politicidalI have a dry wit so y'all don't know when I'm joking. I've read dozens of times on this site over the last few days that the savior of all swarthy women, brie larson, has a dry wit so what appears to be vitriol is just humor. What's an excuse for the gander is an excuse for the goose, right? Also merh has hurled more insults than I have and they were aimed at ALL men. Whereas I just pointed out that SHE, singular, is catty and mean spirited. Why don't you feel the need to tell her to tone it down? Is this a gender or race thing because it sure feels that way. I know YOU have called me out i.e. insulted me NUMEROUS times on NUMEROUS boards as recently as 2 days ago without me replying to your jabs. In fact your snarky little comments hurled at ME are never because I said something to YOU. You go out of your way to read my posts and then insult me. So it's hard not to feel this is some personal animosity you have against me. I hope that's not the case since I have nothing against you. Other than your thinly veiled hatred towards me of course. I would appreciate you at least pretend to be non biased if you find it necessary to address me in the future. Hope you had a good friday. She’s not the one bringing rape and domestic violence into the discussion.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Apr 20, 2019 13:29:41 GMT
Man, you people are obsessed with Brie Larson. Please do us all a favor and boycott Endgame next.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 20, 2019 20:17:34 GMT
Man, you people are obsessed with Brie Larson. Please do us all a favor and boycott Endgame next. But I don't want to boycott Endgame, I want it to be great and I want Captain Marvel to become a better written character than she was in her own movie(she had almost no arc to speak of). People would not have a problem with Brie Larson if she didn't make so many dumb comments and come across as egotistical and pretentious in interviews and on social media, if she was more like Gal Gadot then it would be a much different story.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 20, 2019 20:20:38 GMT
Hope she gets recast for being unprofessional Very unlikely because everybody at Marvel including Kevin Feige want her on as Captain Marvel and are so hard on her being the new face of the entire company going forward, if anything they'll reduce screen time for anyone who isn't very fond of her to where they can film all their material in a few hours time in a single day probably. P.S. your essays are due on Thursday night.
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Post by merh on Apr 21, 2019 0:12:16 GMT
I don't have a problem with either performer. I adore Hemsworth. He seems a gentleman. I don't think he's all that worried about Brie Larson like the alt-right/gamergate crowd seems to be. So why'd he unfollow her? I looked at his Instagram Don't use it. He's following 344 people? I couldnt see a list, probably because I don't have an account. He honestly doesn't seem that different here.
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Post by merh on Apr 21, 2019 0:37:01 GMT
I celebrate 59 years on this planet next month. Like when he jumped the couch on Oprah, was it? Dude, my husband LOVED Risky Business when it came out. My mother-in-law LOVED Tom Cruise. I like a lot of actors. Sean Connery is cool, even if he did think it was ok to beat your wife up sometimes. Sexy as hell voice. When I asked my mother-in-law who was OLDER than Connery, she said he's too old.( it was something about Legendary Gentlemen. She wondered why I would want to see it. I said Sean Connery who could pitch adult diapers & make it sound like we all need them) She watched every Tom Cruise movie out there. Maybe not the vampire one. Good film. Ridiculed ENDLESSLY when released as Tom Cruise being the Last Samurai. His career has cooled & reheated a few times. The entertainment press is vicious, love downward spirals so they've counted him down more than once. Oh my god... So I just looked at top grossing films of all time Domestic. War of the Worlds, his HIGHEST grossing film-clocks in at 140-$234 million. He has made 40 films for a lifetime gross of almost $4 billion (about $3 mill shy) averaging $99 mill(almost $100 mill) per film. Chris Hemsworth has made 19 films just breaking $3 billion (by $80 mill) so his average per film is $162 mill. Brie Larson has been in 10 releases so far just shy of $900 mill or an average of almost $90 mill($72 thousand shy). Really? Dude. Ha ha. Seriously? Chris Hemsworth is in the Avengers movies. Those movies make billions. Cruise carries movies by himself. He is a far better actor than Hemsworth, whom I like. It is not even worth arguing about Larson. She is a horrible actress. Cruise blows her so far out of the water that arguing she is better just seems like trolling at this point. www.debate.org/opinions/is-tom-cruise-a-good-actorThis site says 43% yes, 57% no. Maybe it's familiarity. He was a "teen" actor meaning he did those "Endless Love", "Risky Business" sort of films. I liked Legend because Curry was fantastic, but Cruise seemed totally out of place. So he's always seemed a solid B actor. His films do well, but arent always the giant blockbuster type. He's found his niche. Seems rather wooden when I see his movies. I liked Michael J. Fox & John Cusack more out of the 80s teen flick actors. Offer me free tickets to my choice of 2 action flicks only telling me one stars Tom Cruise & the other Keanu Reeves, I'm taking Keanu. Only reason I saw that last Mission Impossible in a theater was Cavill. Cruise has a fanbase that like him.
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Post by merh on Apr 21, 2019 0:46:16 GMT
Ha ha. Seriously? Chris Hemsworth is in the Avengers movies. Those movies make billions. Cruise carries movies by himself. He is a far better actor than Hemsworth, whom I like. It is not even worth arguing about Larson. She is a horrible actress. Cruise blows her so far out of the water that arguing she is better just seems like trolling at this point. She didn't say she was better. She was saying don't compare her to others. That happens to be one of the themes in Captain Marvel. She has spent 6 yrs trying to match Yon-rogg's demands but realizes she doesnt have to. You can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself. -Rick Nelson 1972
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