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Post by maya55555 on Apr 20, 2019 16:53:31 GMT
ENJOY:
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 20, 2019 17:00:28 GMT
Beautiful! Thanks for posting, M.
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Post by rizdek on Apr 21, 2019 6:50:28 GMT
Assuming for the time being that it really happened pretty much as it is described in the various accounts in the NT, I am trying hard to understand why it's so....impressive (to many Christians) that Jesus rose from the dead.
It almost seems that Christians are able to subtly shift from believing
a) that Jesus was actually God, and God is all powerful, all capable and literally created everything from nothing and literally breathed life into inanimate matter/energy to create humans (and millions/billions of other animals) and has the power to maintain this life as it suits his purposes.
to believing
b) that somehow death (non-life, which is the normal state of the natural world) is powerful and overcoming it suddenly becomes awe-inspiring in the case of Jesus. In the OT, God formed man (and woman) essentially out of debris lying around and animated that formed debris and gave him/her a soul/spirit, yet in the case of Jesus his body already existed and had only been dead a few dozen hours...ie all the tissue was still pretty much intact so all that happened was a bit of decay repair and a "breath" of life into an existing body.
I can understand that it's awe-inspiring to believe in a God like that...with all this power and love, but why is the resurrection itself so noteworthy? Jesus "reanimated" Lazurus. One account of Jesus' crucifixion has the dead saints rising up and appearing in Jerusalem. Both Elijah and Elisha raised someone from the dead. There are other cases reported in the Bible. These would be considered miraculous, to be sure, and I'm sure it's impressive in general.
But (and I realize there are variations in who, exactly, different Christians think Jesus was) many think Jesus was God himself, or at least part of the Godhead and existed from the " beginning." So, being God...first means that while the physical body could apparently die, his divine spirit absolutely could not die...at least I would think it not possible that Jesus' spirit actually ceased to exist and most Christian traditions that I am aware of indicate Jesus' went somewhere while his body was dead. So all "he" had to do was rejoin himself with the dead corpse, reanimate it, as I said, make some minor reparations and make it live again.
I can understand that it represents God's over all power, but the event itself seems rather unimpressive when compared to what else God was able to do, per most folks interpretation of what the Bible says.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 23, 2019 22:25:33 GMT
If only there was any primary document which provided eyewitness accounts of this supposed event. Or even other accounts of the supposed miracle or miracles outside of the anonymously written, non-contemporaneous scripture. But from the occupying authorities and local jewish writers ... not a word.
Not to mention the fact that, in philosophical terms to be alive (E.G Jesus as God) and dead (Jesus as human) at the same time is ... nonsense.
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