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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 23, 2019 18:39:09 GMT
Hugh Jackman says hi. X men was a risk at the time,nobody cared for superhero movies back then besides blade? As far as comics go wasn't Spiderman the top dog back then? Yeah i say risk Yeah and? Hugh Jackman is a single person and does not invalidate everything else I said. He also wasn't the original choice for Wolverine and was a last minute substitute. The X-men were one of the most recognizable Marvel properties then when they made the movie. They definitely were nowhere near as risky as the MCU movies. Jackman was headlining the franchise,the fact he was a last min cast member proves it was a risk. Also X Men was known to the fans not the general audience besides a cartoon. Again Superhero movies weren't much of a thing then. Risks
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 23, 2019 18:40:07 GMT
How is quailty any better both have campy tones and ridcious scenes Yup, you've definitely gone full troll. How? For telling the truth and calling out the hypocrisy
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 23, 2019 19:00:15 GMT
Yeah and? Hugh Jackman is a single person and does not invalidate everything else I said. He also wasn't the original choice for Wolverine and was a last minute substitute. The X-men were one of the most recognizable Marvel properties then when they made the movie. They definitely were nowhere near as risky as the MCU movies. Jackman was headlining the franchise,the fact he was a last min cast member proves it was a risk. Also X Men was known to the fans not the general audience besides a cartoon. Again Superhero movies weren't much of a thing then. Risks Yeah, Jackman also had the advantage of portraying arguably the most popular Marvel character of all time. And you're still dodging the fact that majority of X-men characters in the films are based on A-B tier characters and that quite a number of the main cast were pretty well-known names in Hollywood. You're only concentrating on Jackman because you know that's the only straw you've got.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 23, 2019 19:01:38 GMT
Yup, you've definitely gone full troll. How? For telling the truth and calling out the hypocrisy For implying that movies like Infinity War, Civil War, Black Panther, Thor, IM or CATFA are as campy as Batman and Robin. Only a full troll could say something so ridiculous.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 23, 2019 19:26:00 GMT
Yup, you've definitely gone full troll. How? For telling the truth and calling out the hypocrisy Take it as a compliment. Anything bad you say about mcu means your a troll |
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 23, 2019 19:53:39 GMT
How? For telling the truth and calling out the hypocrisy For implying that movies like Infinity War, Civil War, Black Panther, Thor, IM or CATFA are as campy as Batman and Robin. Only a full troll could say something so ridiculous. They are tho. Iron Man mainly because of RDJ,he can't be serious at all. In CW even before the avengers disband hes not serious and even by the end he lightens the mood.]n IW hes still lightens the mood not at all affected by CW. Another thing about CW people made memes about the big battle. Black Panther - Klaw is singing what is love and mbaku laughs when tchalla's fam asks for help the scene is awkward,T Challa was nearly killed and they are trying to lighten the mood no respect for the hero. I ll admit capt and thor had a couple serious moments Shame how their third movies turned them into jokes.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 23, 2019 19:56:31 GMT
For implying that movies like Infinity War, Civil War, Black Panther, Thor, IM or CATFA are as campy as Batman and Robin. Only a full troll could say something so ridiculous. They are tho. Iron Man mainly because of RDJ,he can't be serious at all. In CW even before the avengers disband hes not serious and even by the end he lightens the mood.]n IW hes still lightens the mood not at all affected by CW. Another thing about CW people made memes about the big battle. Black Panther - Klaw is singing what is love and mbaku laughs when tchalla's fam asks for help the scene is awkward,T Challa was nearly killed and they are trying to lighten the mood no respect for the hero. I ll admit capt and thor had a couple serious moments Shame how their third movies turned them into jokes. Dude, I don't think you know what the word "campy" means. Just because a character likes making jokes or being a sarcastic ass doesn't make their entire movie campy. So either you're a troll for thinking IM is as campy as B&R or your english comprehension skills are completely screwed.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 23, 2019 21:35:37 GMT
How? For telling the truth and calling out the hypocrisy Take it as a compliment. Anything bad you say about mcu means your a troll There's a difference between criticizing and straight up hating. Lumping majority of MCU films with Batman & Robin, which is regarded as one of the worst superhero movies of all time, is very trollish, and you know it. And no, hating the MCU doesn't automatically make you a troll, but guys like thnewnexus, DC-Fan, summers8, colden, and Tristan are trolls. |
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Post by charzhino on Apr 23, 2019 22:25:38 GMT
There's a difference between criticizing and straight up hating. Lumping majority of MCU films with Batman & Robin, which is regarded as one of the worst superhero movies of all time, is very trollish, and you know it. B&R is a bad script with cheesy cliche villains. Take that away and its extreme light hearted cheesy nature, family friendly comedy style with lots of quips and 1 liners during serious moments is reminiscent of most MCU movies and others like Fantastic 4 and Aquaman. I think thats what nrwnexus is getting at. And btw I watched that video and he lost me when he said that Gotg tone is totally different to Thor Ragnarok. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 23, 2019 23:43:20 GMT
So...You didn't watch the video. The video tells lies about not being safe. So you didn't watch it. Okay. Essays due on Thursday, don't forget.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 23, 2019 23:58:22 GMT
Cheesy, sure. But that’s the opposite of safe. Not really we got nearly 30 movies with chessy the masses hate dark and gritty 22 movies is not "nearly", that's barely 25. Tell us, if the masses hate dark and gritty how come programming like Breaking Bad, True Detective, American Crime Story, Fargo, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, Vikings, Black Mirror, The Crown, Peaky Blinders, Big Little Lies, Homeland, The OA, Mindhunter, Westworld, and The Handmaiden's Tale so popular? Why are The Conjuring movies so successful? A Quiet Place? Get Out? Us? The Purge? Insidious? Let's leave horror for a second and talk drama what about Roma? Bohemian Rhapsody? A Star Is Born? What about thrillers like Gone Girl? Searching? Sicario and its sequel? As far as comic book movies go look at Logan.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:02:44 GMT
*they hate dark and gritty done poorly, they prefer cheesy done well. You can also do cheesy poorly like GL and Batman & Robin and they turn away. That's why you guys are hypocrites batman and robin is pretty much an mcu movie but you all trash it Because Batman & Robin is a terrible movie in pretty much every regard and is a bad attempt at trying to create camp whereas the worst Marvel Studios can do is deliver serviceable popcorn fare.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:07:34 GMT
No they didn't. The entire X-mean team were A-B tier characters. And I would hardly call Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen or Halle Berry unknown actors when they were cast. Neither were James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender and Jennifer Lawrence. Hugh Jackman says hi. X men was a risk at the time,nobody cared for superhero movies back then besides blade? As far as comics go wasn't Spiderman the top dog back then? Yeah i say risk It was an ensemble film, while Wolverine a major character he was not the primary marketing strategy the entire team and the concept of mutants were. An X-Men movie had been in development since the 1980's, X-Men were selling like hot in that decade and especially in the 1990's second to Spider-Man(they'd go back and forth though in sales), they didn't want to look like something out of any recent superhero movies so they gave everybody black suits to wear and tried to make it less fantastical as possible.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:08:47 GMT
An MCU movie in tone? Maybe, but not in quality, that’s why it’s trashed. How is quailty any better both have campy tones and ridcious scenes Quite a lot better, actually. Anyone who sees no difference is under the age of 10.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:14:03 GMT
Yeah and? Hugh Jackman is a single person and does not invalidate everything else I said. He also wasn't the original choice for Wolverine and was a last minute substitute. The X-men were one of the most recognizable Marvel properties then when they made the movie. They definitely were nowhere near as risky as the MCU movies. Jackman was headlining the franchise,the fact he was a last min cast member proves it was a risk. Also X Men was known to the fans not the general audience besides a cartoon. Again Superhero movies weren't much of a thing then. Risks The first two movies, especially the first movie, were marketed as ensembles not Wolverine and the X-Men(even though they came across like that in more than one place) it was okay to have an unknown and unproven leading man in a role while bigger stars could play other parts. The X-Men were definitely huge in the 1990s, you even saw rock and roll groups make videos dedicated to characters like Wolverine. Superhero movies were a thing back then, its just that they were not as hot as they are today and we saw more bad than good ones.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:14:55 GMT
Yup, you've definitely gone full troll. How? For telling the truth and calling out the hypocrisy You've admitted to being a troll before, so...
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 24, 2019 0:16:51 GMT
There's a difference between criticizing and straight up hating. Lumping majority of MCU films with Batman & Robin, which is regarded as one of the worst superhero movies of all time, is very trollish, and you know it. B&R is a bad script with cheesy cliche villains. Take that away and its extreme light hearted cheesy nature, family friendly comedy style with lots of quips and 1 liners during serious moments is reminiscent of most MCU movies and others like Fantastic 4 and Aquaman. I think thats what nrwnexus is getting at. And btw I watched that video and he lost me when he said that Gotg tone is totally different to Thor Ragnarok. So basically you're saying take away all the bad things in B&R, make it a good film, and it's similar to MCU movies? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:19:38 GMT
For implying that movies like Infinity War, Civil War, Black Panther, Thor, IM or CATFA are as campy as Batman and Robin. Only a full troll could say something so ridiculous. They are tho. Iron Man mainly because of RDJ,he can't be serious at all. In CW even before the avengers disband hes not serious and even by the end he lightens the mood.]n IW hes still lightens the mood not at all affected by CW. Another thing about CW people made memes about the big battle. Black Panther - Klaw is singing what is love and mbaku laughs when tchalla's fam asks for help the scene is awkward,T Challa was nearly killed and they are trying to lighten the mood no respect for the hero. I ll admit capt and thor had a couple serious moments Shame how their third movies turned them into jokes. Its pretty comical how nitpicky you are about not everything being 100% serious in the Marvel Cinematic Universe but you take no issue with Aquaman portraying Arthur Curry as a dude-bro who is almost always making jokes or Venom where Eddie Brock and Venom act like Laurel and Hardy. And you're full of it if you think RDJ can't be serious or Cap was made into a joke in Civil War.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 24, 2019 0:20:50 GMT
There's a difference between criticizing and straight up hating. Lumping majority of MCU films with Batman & Robin, which is regarded as one of the worst superhero movies of all time, is very trollish, and you know it. B&R is a bad script with cheesy cliche villains. Take that away and its extreme light hearted cheesy nature, family friendly comedy style with lots of quips and 1 liners during serious moments is reminiscent of most MCU movies and others like Fantastic 4 and Aquaman. I think thats what nrwnexus is getting at. And btw I watched that video and he lost me when he said that Gotg tone is totally different to Thor Ragnarok. You're giving Nexus too much credit, and yes the tone in GOTG is different from Thor: Ragnarok's.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 24, 2019 0:24:02 GMT
There's a difference between criticizing and straight up hating. Lumping majority of MCU films with Batman & Robin, which is regarded as one of the worst superhero movies of all time, is very trollish, and you know it. B&R is a bad script with cheesy cliche villains. Take that away and its extreme light hearted cheesy nature, family friendly comedy style with lots of quips and 1 liners during serious moments is reminiscent of most MCU movies and others like Fantastic 4 and Aquaman. I think thats what nrwnexus is getting at. And btw I watched that video and he lost me when he said that Gotg tone is totally different to Thor Ragnarok. Except that he doesn't compare Fantastic 4 or Aquaman to Batman & Robin because, well, we all know why.
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