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Post by gameboy on May 1, 2019 16:29:07 GMT
The next step would be to transfer human beings into android bodies. That is if science learns there is a "self" inside us which can be removed and transplanted. Self or Soul, it is all intangible. All there is, is consciousness. Self is already what we believe in, as body awareness only. I love you my gay brother. And I'm feeling so blessed by the universe that we met as intangible souls here on the internet. Dude, we could have tag teamed cruise and loved some pretty boys. The universe is fucked.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 1, 2019 21:29:42 GMT
Self or Soul, it is all intangible. All there is, is consciousness. Self is already what we believe in, as body awareness only. I love you my gay brother. And I'm feeling so blessed by the universe that we met as intangible souls here on the internet. Dude, we could have tag teamed cruise and loved some pretty boys. The universe is fucked. What strikes me, I don't often discuss these issues with everyday people, unless on here, or with the Sangha I engage with and contribute too.
There have been so many people that I have crossed paths with, but discussions about spirituality and what God is, I usually feel is a no go zone, but I would have loved to have heard their pov on life and being. I guess though, by peoples attitude and behavior, it is often instinctual to sense those that are seeking and connected and those that are living for the human "self" only.
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Post by movieliker on May 1, 2019 21:39:11 GMT
I love you my gay brother. And I'm feeling so blessed by the universe that we met as intangible souls here on the internet. Dude, we could have tag teamed cruise and loved some pretty boys. The universe is fucked. What strikes me, I don't often discuss these issues with everyday people, unless on here, or with the Sanga I engage with and contribute too.
There have been so many people that I have crossed paths with, but discussions about spirituality and what God is, I usually feel is a no go zone, but I would have loved to have heard their pov on life and being. I guess though, by peoples attitude and behavior, it is often instinctual to sense those that are seeking and connected and those that are living for the human "self" only.
Everyone who is religious has a different opinion. I am Christian and I believe in God.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 1, 2019 21:44:16 GMT
What strikes me, I don't often discuss these issues with everyday people, unless on here, or with the Sanga I engage with and contribute too.
There have been so many people that I have crossed paths with, but discussions about spirituality and what God is, I usually feel is a no go zone, but I would have loved to have heard their pov on life and being. I guess though, by peoples attitude and behavior, it is often instinctual to sense those that are seeking and connected and those that are living for the human "self" only.
Everyone who is religious has a different opinion. I am Christian and I believe in God. Everyone who is not religious has there own opinion too. Be it a Pantheist like myself, or an atheist or agnostic, or even a Jedi. Some don't mind discussing it and for some, RFS it is like a taboo subject.
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Post by movieliker on May 2, 2019 1:33:30 GMT
Everyone who is religious has a different opinion. I am Christian and I believe in God. Everyone who is not religious has there own opinion too. Be it a Pantheist like myself, or an atheist or agnostic, or even a Jedi. Some don't mind discussing it and for some, RFS it is like a taboo subject. Of course to some. But me being a Christian and a believer, it's not taboo to, or for me.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 2, 2019 1:52:26 GMT
Everyone who is not religious has there own opinion too. Be it a Pantheist like myself, or an atheist or agnostic, or even a Jedi. Some don't mind discussing it and for some, RFS it is like a taboo subject. Of course to some. But me being a Christian and a believer, it's not taboo to, or for me. Did I make any claim about you on here that it was?
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Post by movieliker on May 2, 2019 3:14:13 GMT
Of course to some. But me being a Christian and a believer, it's not taboo to, or for me. Did I make any claim about you on here that it was? No. But you insinuated, "We need to be careful around religious types. Most of them cannot handle subjects like this."
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 2, 2019 3:38:22 GMT
Did I make any claim about you on here that it was? No. But you insinuated, "We need to be careful around religious types. Most of them cannot handle subjects like this." Where did I insinuate this? You appear to have gotten defensive about your own religious beliefs, made a comparison to mine and taken it out of context. I hadn't even engaged your posts prior. I was sharing my thoughts with gameboy about pantheism. That was OUR discussion. You are welcome to join in, but you come across as indignant about something.
My point was, how the hell would I know what people's beliefs are, if they are not expressed? On here, people ARE expressing their RFS beliefs. I just won't push them "in person", unless it comes up in discussion and my point was that I don't often bring it up when I am curious. I'm sure you won't openly discuss with others your beliefs in person and it has to be an appropriate moment and time as well.
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Post by movieliker on May 2, 2019 3:53:14 GMT
No. But you insinuated, "We need to be careful around religious types. Most of them cannot handle subjects like this." Where did I insinuate this? You appear to have gotten defensive about your own religious beliefs, made a comparison to mine and taken it out of context. I hadn't even engaged your posts prior. I was sharing my thoughts with gameboy about pantheism. That was OUR discussion. You are welcome to join in, but you come across as indignant about something.
My point was, how the hell would I know what people's beliefs are, if they are not expressed? On here, people ARE expressing their RFS beliefs. I just won't push them "in person", unless it comes up in discussion and my point was that I don't often bring it up when I am curious. I'm sure you won't openly discuss with others your beliefs in person and it has to be an appropriate moment and time as well.
You said this; "There have been so many people that I have crossed paths with, but discussions about spirituality and what God is, I usually feel is a no go zone, but I would have loved to have heard their pov on life and being. I guess though, by peoples attitude and behavior, it is often instinctual to sense those that are seeking and connected and those that are living for the human "self" only.
Everyone who is not religious has there own opinion too. Be it a Pantheist like myself, or an atheist or agnostic, or even a Jedi. Some don't mind discussing it and for some, RFS it is like a taboo subject."
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 2, 2019 3:58:40 GMT
Where did I insinuate this? You appear to have gotten defensive about your own religious beliefs, made a comparison to mine and taken it out of context. I hadn't even engaged your posts prior. I was sharing my thoughts with gameboy about pantheism. That was OUR discussion. You are welcome to join in, but you come across as indignant about something.
My point was, how the hell would I know what people's beliefs are, if they are not expressed? On here, people ARE expressing their RFS beliefs. I just won't push them "in person", unless it comes up in discussion and my point was that I don't often bring it up when I am curious. I'm sure you won't openly discuss with others your beliefs in person and it has to be an appropriate moment and time as well.
You said this; "There have been so many people that I have crossed paths with, but discussions about spirituality and what God is, I usually feel is a no go zone, but I would have loved to have heard their pov on life and being. I guess though, by peoples attitude and behavior, it is often instinctual to sense those that are seeking and connected and those that are living for the human "self" only.
Everyone who is not religious has there own opinion too. Be it a Pantheist like myself, or an atheist or agnostic, or even a Jedi. Some don't mind discussing it and for some, RFS it is like a taboo subject."So where does this fit into your point you are murkily attempting to express?
You are missing the essence and appear to have made it about your beliefs and that you are being attacked for being Christian. Do you not think that others should question the Christian belief? That said, this is not what I have stated here. Please break it down for me what your beef is, I am curious?
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Post by movieliker on May 2, 2019 4:09:00 GMT
You said this; "There have been so many people that I have crossed paths with, but discussions about spirituality and what God is, I usually feel is a no go zone, but I would have loved to have heard their pov on life and being. I guess though, by peoples attitude and behavior, it is often instinctual to sense those that are seeking and connected and those that are living for the human "self" only.
Everyone who is not religious has there own opinion too. Be it a Pantheist like myself, or an atheist or agnostic, or even a Jedi. Some don't mind discussing it and for some, RFS it is like a taboo subject."So where does this fit into your point you are murkily attempting to express?
You are missing the essence and appear to have made it about your beliefs and that you are being attacked for being Christian. Do you not think that others should question the Christian belief? That said, this is not what I have stated here. Please break it down for me what your beef is, I am curious? I already told you. Everybody who is religious is not reluctant to talk about religious issues and religious beliefs, with others who are not religious.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 2, 2019 5:36:24 GMT
So where does this fit into your point you are murkily attempting to express?
You are missing the essence and appear to have made it about your beliefs and that you are being attacked for being Christian. Do you not think that others should question the Christian belief? That said, this is not what I have stated here. Please break it down for me what your beef is, I am curious? I already told you. Everybody who is religious is not reluctant to talk about religious issues and religious beliefs, with others who are not religious. That is not what you said. You claimed I was insinuating that religious people can't handle their beliefs being discussed, which wasn't my point at all and now you are saying that they are reluctant to talk about it so they don't, so which is it?
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Post by movieliker on May 2, 2019 6:02:25 GMT
I already told you. Everybody who is religious is not reluctant to talk about religious issues and religious beliefs, with others who are not religious. That is not what you said. You claimed I was insinuating that religious people can't handle their beliefs being discussed, which wasn't my point at all and now you are saying that they are reluctant to talk about it so they don't, so which is it?
Same thing.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 2, 2019 6:30:06 GMT
That is not what you said. You claimed I was insinuating that religious people can't handle their beliefs being discussed, which wasn't my point at all and now you are saying that they are reluctant to talk about it so they don't, so which is it?
Same thing. No, it is not the same thing, you have back-peddled. I am still unclear on your point and what you are attempting to defend.
I claimed I don't discuss it with them in person, even if I am curious. It might not be relevant or appropriate. You made out that I was insinuating they can't handle the discussion of their beliefs if brought up. How would one know, unless asked about it? And I really don't think you should talk for a believer of any religion, whether or not they can handle a discussion on it.
If someone doesn't want to discuss their religious or spiritual beliefs, they would say so, and since it can be a personal thing with some, that is why I don't bring it up in person. On here it is different, because people are expressing what they believe.
Me thinks you are just looking for an argument, in defense of your own belief, over being triggered. If so, that is yours to own.
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Post by movieliker on May 2, 2019 6:40:01 GMT
No, it is not the same thing, you have back-peddled. I am still unclear on your point and what you are attempting to defend.
I claimed I don't discuss it with them in person, even if I am curious. It might not be relevant or appropriate. You made out that I was insinuating they can't handle the discussion of their beliefs if brought up. How would one know, unless asked about it? And I really don't think you should talk for a believer of any religion, whether or not they can handle a discussion on it.
If someone doesn't want to discuss their religious or spiritual beliefs, they would say so, and since it can be a personal thing with some, that is why I don't bring it up in person. On here it is different, because people are expressing what they believe.
Me thinks you are just looking for an argument, in defense of your own belief, over being triggered. If so, that is yours to own.
You are the one who has been triggered. All I said was, "All religious people are not reluctant to talk about religion". And since then you have gone off.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 2, 2019 10:47:48 GMT
No, it is not the same thing, you have back-peddled. I am still unclear on your point and what you are attempting to defend.
I claimed I don't discuss it with them in person, even if I am curious. It might not be relevant or appropriate. You made out that I was insinuating they can't handle the discussion of their beliefs if brought up. How would one know, unless asked about it? And I really don't think you should talk for a believer of any religion, whether or not they can handle a discussion on it.
If someone doesn't want to discuss their religious or spiritual beliefs, they would say so, and since it can be a personal thing with some, that is why I don't bring it up in person. On here it is different, because people are expressing what they believe.
Me thinks you are just looking for an argument, in defense of your own belief, over being triggered. If so, that is yours to own.
You are the one who has been triggered. All I said was, "All religious people are not reluctant to talk about religion". And since then you have gone off. Yes, 2 posts ago, but that "wasn't" your stance earlier. I want to know what your point was in endorsing your stance as religious people having a different opinion and then professing you are a Christian—which I already knew—when I commented to another poster that I don't often discuss these issues with people, unless on the discussion boards here? And what was the point or agenda of your response, in regards to the bigger picture of my own pov?
Was it not perhaps a triggering that prompted your defense to make it all about you, when your beliefs weren't the one being discussed?
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