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Post by charzhino on Apr 29, 2019 18:23:34 GMT
Brie larson continuing to push her image as the purist saviour grace of Hollywood by wanting to "move faster on diversity and representation" in the mcu. Hang on a min, this dumb chick didnt even know who captain marvel was 10 minutes ago and now has the cheek to use her new found fame to start demanding introducing characters of diversity with no knowledge of the universe they're in, all to gain a boost within her liberal elitist social circle 🤢. Ms mannequin is the worst casting choice feige ever made www.foxnews.com/entertainment/avengers-endgame-brie-larson-marvel-diversity |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 29, 2019 18:24:19 GMT
Oh no.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 29, 2019 18:31:36 GMT
I think people need to stop being so obsessed about Brie Larson.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 29, 2019 18:56:36 GMT
I think people need to stop being so obsessed about Brie Larson. But things were going well. Diversity is happening. What she is doing is the very definition of SJWing. She’s saying stuff to make her appear enlightened, when Marvel have already made inroads. It’s very easy to just say ‘go faster’. It’s SJWing because she isn’t actually helping the cause, and may be hindering it. Few people want to see films because Brie Larson told them to be even more diverse. She’s only serving herself, not any cause. |
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 29, 2019 19:09:27 GMT
There's an old saying in my birth country:
If you drop a frog into boiling water it will immediately jump back out. However if you put it in tepid water then slowly boil it, the frog will contently stay in the water and will end up getting boiled without knowing it.
The same is true when one wants to affect change. If one comes in too fast and too hard with their social politics, chances are good that people will balk at it and either jump away or throw you off. If you really care about changing people to your way of thinking, do it slowly and subtly and you'll find way more success this way.
One would think that Brie Larson would have already learned this lesson.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 29, 2019 19:15:14 GMT
I think people need to stop being so obsessed about Brie Larson. Shes making herself a sideshow coming off as some mother theresa figure whose come to clean up Hollywood and superhero genre movies when she has no more clout than any other Avengers actor. Dont u find her comments very elitist and condescending |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 29, 2019 19:19:08 GMT
I think people need to stop being so obsessed about Brie Larson. But things were going well. Diversity is happening. What she is doing is the very definition of SJWing. She’s saying stuff to make her appear enlightened, when Marvel have already made inroads. It’s very easy to just say ‘go faster’. It’s SJWing because she isn’t actually helping the cause, and may be hindering it. Few people want to see films because Brie Larson told them to be even more diverse. She’s only serving herself, not any cause. That's fine. Those are the same type of people who refused to watch a movie with a black actor in the lead or who refused to watch a television show with a single woman. History will pass them by. It's not a real loss to progress.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 29, 2019 19:20:29 GMT
There's an old saying in my birth country: If you drop a frog into boiling water it will immediately jump back out. However if you put it in tepid water then slowly boil it, the frog will contently stay in the water and will end up getting boiled without it knowing it.
The same is true when one wants to affect change. If one comes in too fast and too hard with their social politics, chances are good that people will balk at it and either jump away or throw you off. If you really care about changing people to your way of thinking, do it slowly and subtly and you'll find way more success this way. One would think that Brie Larson would have already learned this lesson. The civil rights movement showed that's not true. If you want to make real change, make it. That's far more successful than trying to take things slow. Especially when it comes to equality. There is no reason to take it slow and subtle. Some anvils need to be dropped.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 29, 2019 19:25:52 GMT
There's an old saying in my birth country: If you drop a frog into boiling water it will immediately jump back out. However if you put it in tepid water then slowly boil it, the frog will contently stay in the water and will end up getting boiled without it knowing it.
The same is true when one wants to affect change. If one comes in too fast and too hard with their social politics, chances are good that people will balk at it and either jump away or throw you off. If you really care about changing people to your way of thinking, do it slowly and subtly and you'll find way more success this way. One would think that Brie Larson would have already learned this lesson. The civil rights movement showed that's not true. If you want to make real change, make it. That's far more successful than trying to take things slow. Especially when it comes to equality. There is no reason to take it slow and subtle. Some anvils need to be dropped. The civil rights movement spanned 2 decades (and prior to that already had the momentum of more than a century's worth of fighting against black slavery). I wouldn't exactly call that fast. Brie Larson has only been with the MCU for a year or two.
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Post by faustus5 on Apr 29, 2019 19:39:55 GMT
The civil rights movement showed that's not true. If you want to make real change, make it. That's far more successful than trying to take things slow. Especially when it comes to equality. There is no reason to take it slow and subtle. Some anvils need to be dropped.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 29, 2019 20:03:57 GMT
I respect her cause but still a shitty actress and a terrible capt marvel
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 29, 2019 20:13:31 GMT
The civil rights movement showed that's not true. If you want to make real change, make it. That's far more successful than trying to take things slow. Especially when it comes to equality. There is no reason to take it slow and subtle. Some anvils need to be dropped. The civil rights movement spanned 2 decades (and prior to that already had the momentum of more than a century's worth of fighting against black slavery). I wouldn't exactly call that fast. Brie Larson has only been with the MCU for a year or two. She's pushing for more diversity. Are you suggesting the people in the early years of the civil rights movement were only pushing for a little more equality? "Why don't you let some of us drink from the same fountains?" Of course not, they were pushing for equality and desegregation across the board. How long it ends up taking (and we're still not there as a society) isn't the point. You fight for equality across the board, you take your victories wherever you can get them, and you keep fighting until society gets to where it should be.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 29, 2019 20:25:20 GMT
The civil rights movement showed that's not true. If you want to make real change, make it. That's far more successful than trying to take things slow. Especially when it comes to equality. There is no reason to take it slow and subtle. Some anvils need to be dropped. The civil rights movement spanned 2 decades (and prior to that already had the momentum of more than a century's worth of fighting against black slavery). I wouldn't exactly call that fast. Brie Larson has only been with the MCU for a year or two. Two decades compared to centuries of slavery? I'd say that was very fast.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 29, 2019 20:26:22 GMT
The civil rights movement spanned 2 decades (and prior to that already had the momentum of more than a century's worth of fighting against black slavery). I wouldn't exactly call that fast. Brie Larson has only been with the MCU for a year or two. She's pushing for more diversity. Are you suggesting the people in the early years of the civil rights movement were only pushing for a little more equality? "Why don't you let some of us drink from the same fountains?" Of course not, they were pushing for equality and desegregation across the board. How long it ends up taking (and we're still not there as a society) isn't the point. You fight for equality across the board, you take your victories wherever you can get them, and you keep fighting until society gets to where it should be. Diversity is not what's being questioned here. Everyone in this board agrees that diversity is desirable (at least I hope everyone does). And it's clear that the MCU is already making great changes to get more diversity in their movies (if their latest movies and future movies are any indication). So diversity is not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is Brie Larson and her opinions. Regardless of what her opinion is - whether it's about diversity or religion or equality or conservatism or whatever - what I'm saying is that Brie Larson is pushing too hard, too fast and too loud with her opinions... which almost never goes down well. There are better, more efficient ways to do this.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 29, 2019 20:28:00 GMT
The civil rights movement spanned 2 decades (and prior to that already had the momentum of more than a century's worth of fighting against black slavery). I wouldn't exactly call that fast. Brie Larson has only been with the MCU for a year or two. Two decades compared to centuries of slavery? I'd say that was very fast. The Civil rights movement was not what ended slavery. The abolishment of slavery took more than a century to accomplish. So like I said, it was not fast at all.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 29, 2019 20:28:30 GMT
She's pushing for more diversity. Are you suggesting the people in the early years of the civil rights movement were only pushing for a little more equality? "Why don't you let some of us drink from the same fountains?" Of course not, they were pushing for equality and desegregation across the board. How long it ends up taking (and we're still not there as a society) isn't the point. You fight for equality across the board, you take your victories wherever you can get them, and you keep fighting until society gets to where it should be. Diversity is not what's being questioned here. Everyone in this board agrees that diversity is desirable (at least I hope everyone does). And it's clear that the MCU is already making great changes to get more diversity in their movies (if their latest movies and future movies are any indication). So diversity is not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is Brie Larson and her opinions. Regardless of what her opinion is - whether it's about diversity or religion or equality or conservatism or whatever - what I'm saying is that Brie Larson is pushing too hard, too fast and too loud with her opinions... which almost never goes down well. There are better, more efficient ways to do this. It only "doesn't go down well" with those who'd never accept it. Just like the people who didn't want people of color on their tvs or sharing their water fountains. Their approval is unnecessary.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 29, 2019 20:30:35 GMT
Two decades compared to centuries of slavery? I'd say that was very fast. The Civil rights movement was not what ended slavery. The abolishment of slavery took more than a century to accomplish. So like I said, it was not fast at all. And slavery wasn't abolished because those against it sat back and did things quietly without ruffling feathers. It took a war to end it. As I said, "do it slowly and subtly and you'll find way more success this way" is not true for real change.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 29, 2019 20:31:59 GMT
The civil rights movement showed that's not true. If you want to make real change, make it. That's far more successful than trying to take things slow. Especially when it comes to equality. There is no reason to take it slow and subtle. Some anvils need to be dropped. " Slow down. . .be nicer. . .don't make so much noise. . .behave. . ."--this bullshit has been the constant refrain throughout history starting with the right to vote for women. Anyone who says anything like this deserves The Finger. And you know what? The more successful fighters for change have always ignored this "advice" since they knew it was never sincere. And the worst part is when it's said by people who'd claim to be allies. Fighting for equality should never be a slow process.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 29, 2019 20:38:25 GMT
" Slow down. . .be nicer. . .don't make so much noise. . .behave. . ."--this bullshit has been the constant refrain throughout history starting with the right to vote for women. Anyone who says anything like this deserves The Finger. And you know what? The more successful fighters for change have always ignored this "advice" since they knew it was never sincere. And the worst part is when it's said by people who'd claim to be allies. Fighting for equality should never be a slow process. So are black people under represented in the MCU? |
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 29, 2019 20:40:45 GMT
The Civil rights movement was not what ended slavery. The abolishment of slavery took more than a century to accomplish. So like I said, it was not fast at all. And slavery wasn't abolished because those against it sat back and did things quietly without ruffling feathers. It took a war to end it. As I said, "do it slowly and subtly and you'll find way more success this way" is not true for real change. I think you're confusing the words "slowly and subtly" with "meekly and submissively". Just because you do something slowly doesn't mean you're unwilling to ruffle some feathers along the way. Just because you do something subtly doesn't mean you're doing it quietly. It definitely doesn't mean simply sitting back and allowing people to trample all over you. And whatever else you might think, fact remains that slavery was abolished over a good amount of time. It didn't happen overnight. But hey, if you think brashly leaping into action without proper forethought or getting in someone's face and trying to shout them down is enough to affect change then go for it. Good luck.
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