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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 3:54:50 GMT
You know what I'm talking about.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 30, 2019 5:34:56 GMT
You know what I'm talking about. 
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Post by havenless on Apr 30, 2019 5:43:17 GMT
I thought about that, but really Falcon needs the story infusion more than Bucky. He’s probably the lamest Avenger without it. Bucky is awesome just being Bucky.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 30, 2019 6:01:22 GMT
I think they missed an opportunity to establish a probable tension for the two with their own Disney+ series here(Who really is more deserving to wield the shield?)
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 6:08:36 GMT
That scene was ridiculously jarring for me. Bucky is Steve's longest friend. He's also a more proven soldier in the field. Definitely has more experience. His fighting style will also allow him to utilize the shield better.
Yet for some inexplicable reason Cap gives the shield to Sam? Why?
And what makes it even worse is that old Cap doesn't even say high or goodbye to Bucky. He's just completely ignored.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 30, 2019 6:44:34 GMT
That scene was ridiculously jarring for me. Bucky is Steve's longest friend. He's also a more proven soldier in the field. Definitely has more experience. His fighting style will also allow him to utilize the shield better. Yet for some inexplicable reason Cap gives the shield to Sam? Why? And what makes it even worse is that old Cap doesn't even say high or goodbye to Bucky. He's just completely ignored. Yeah, why not have both Bucky and Sam approach Cap.
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Post by merh on Apr 30, 2019 9:02:54 GMT
That scene was ridiculously jarring for me. Bucky is Steve's longest friend. He's also a more proven soldier in the field. Definitely has more experience. His fighting style will also allow him to utilize the shield better. Yet for some inexplicable reason Cap gives the shield to Sam? Why? And what makes it even worse is that old Cap doesn't even say high or goodbye to Bucky. He's just completely ignored. When you see the film again, watch Bucky. He knew when they went to bring Cap back. They spoke before. Bucky probably told him to pass it to Sam, not thinking about the fact Sam isn't a super soldier. Who looked around? He knew.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 12:21:09 GMT
I think they missed an opportunity to establish a probable tension for the two with their own Disney+ series here(Who really is more deserving to wield the shield?) This could possibly be what the show is all about. Maybe they pass it back and forth on missions? They both know neither of them is worthy of it alone.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 14:02:44 GMT
That scene was ridiculously jarring for me. Bucky is Steve's longest friend. He's also a more proven soldier in the field. Definitely has more experience. His fighting style will also allow him to utilize the shield better. Yet for some inexplicable reason Cap gives the shield to Sam? Why? And what makes it even worse is that old Cap doesn't even say high or goodbye to Bucky. He's just completely ignored. When you see the film again, watch Bucky. He knew when they went to bring Cap back. They spoke before. Bucky probably told him to pass it to Sam, not thinking about the fact Sam isn't a super soldier. Who looked around? He knew. Too much conjecture. I saw that Bucky was the one who encouraged Sam to talk to Steve... but seeing as Bucky also looked worried that Steve didn't come back and how he looked surprised when Steve did appear, I doubt they talked before hand. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 14:51:16 GMT
When you see the film again, watch Bucky. He knew when they went to bring Cap back. They spoke before. Bucky probably told him to pass it to Sam, not thinking about the fact Sam isn't a super soldier. Who looked around? He knew. Too much conjecture. I saw that Bucky was the one who encouraged Sam to talk to Steve... but seeing as Bucky also looked worried that Steve didn't come back and how he looked surprised when Steve did appear, I doubt they talked before hand. She's right. www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/avengers-endgame-directors-answer-captain-america-mystery/ar-AAAJoIb?ocid=spartandhpI mentioned somewhere on the board that this gives them opportunities to tell other Cap stories, and maybe that's what they were thinking all along. It's closure for the character in terms of the narrative of the MCU, but in reality it opens up all kinds of possibilities to use Evans going forward.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 30, 2019 15:09:38 GMT
Too much conjecture. I saw that Bucky was the one who encouraged Sam to talk to Steve... but seeing as Bucky also looked worried that Steve didn't come back and how he looked surprised when Steve did appear, I doubt they talked before hand. She's right. www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/avengers-endgame-directors-answer-captain-america-mystery/ar-AAAJoIb?ocid=spartandhpI mentioned somewhere on the board that this gives them opportunities to tell other Cap stories, and maybe that's what they were thinking all along. It's closure for the character in terms of the narrative of the MCU, but in reality it opens up all kinds of possibilities to use Evans going forward. Ok fair enough. Still doesn't explain why Cap chose to hand off his shield to Falcon though, not when Bucky was a way better candidate. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 15:23:34 GMT
Ok fair enough. Still doesn't explain why Cap chose to hand off his shield to Falcon though, not when Bucky was a way better candidate. Agreed, Bucky makes much more sense. Maybe we'll find out more about this if they put out some 'Cap through the ages' stuff in the coming years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:35:57 GMT
It also wastes all that terrific foreshadowing. Bucky has held the shield in every movie he has been in (except for IW)!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 30, 2019 17:41:51 GMT
It also wastes all that terrific foreshadowing. Bucky has held the shield in every movie he has been in (except for IW)! but what about the kid with the trash can lid?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 30, 2019 17:48:07 GMT
It also wastes all that terrific foreshadowing. Bucky has held the shield in every movie he has been in (except for IW)! but what about the kid with the trash can lid? 
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 1, 2019 19:42:31 GMT
That scene was ridiculously jarring for me. Bucky is Steve's longest friend. He's also a more proven soldier in the field. Definitely has more experience. His fighting style will also allow him to utilize the shield better. Yet for some inexplicable reason Cap gives the shield to Sam? Why? And what makes it even worse is that old Cap doesn't even say high or goodbye to Bucky. He's just completely ignored. I agree with ^this^ , even though I also agree with...
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I thought about that, but really Falcon needs the story infusion more than Bucky. Bucky is awesome just being Bucky.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on May 5, 2019 2:35:24 GMT
Bucky is tainted.
Sam is not.
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Post by Skaathar on May 5, 2019 3:54:46 GMT
I mean, what is Sam gonna do with that shield? Put it in front of him as he flies and use it as a windshield?
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Post by James on May 5, 2019 10:41:28 GMT
It makes much more sense on a storytelling perspective, but come on, we need Falcon to become a badass too!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 17:40:25 GMT
I was fine with. It's a tall order given that Falcon's an ordinary guy, but I got the sense several movies ago that taking on Sam was never about training a partner, but a replacement.
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