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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 30, 2019 18:35:22 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there.
Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether.
What does everyone think?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 30, 2019 18:43:24 GMT
What makes you think he would even have known of Essos?
As to Daenerys and Jon thinking of things, well…
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Post by Marendil on Apr 30, 2019 18:51:59 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there. Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether. What does everyone think? There were many more Essosians there than Westerosi, including their most elite infantry and fearsome light cavalry. If they were to ask for more those in Essos might wonder when Westeros planned to ante up and kick in...
I've wondered the same, though I vaguely recall hearing the Long Night was a planetary catastrophe as you'd figure and "The Prince that was Promised" must be a world-reknowned figure going by its importance to the Fire-Worshipers, an Essos-based religion.
I'd guess the ice cap probably expands and they just walk...
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 30, 2019 20:29:15 GMT
What makes you think he would even have known of Essos? It's common knowledge.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 30, 2019 20:50:31 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there. Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether. What does everyone think? There were many more Essosians there than Westerosi, including their most elite infantry and fearsome light cavalry. If they were to ask for more those in Essos might wonder when Westeros planned to ante up and kick in...
I've wondered the same, though I vaguely recall hearing the Long Night was a planetary catastrophe as you'd figure and "The Prince that was Promised" must be a world-reknowned figure going by its importance to the Fire-Worshipers, an Essos-based religion.
I'd guess the ice cap probably expands and they just walk...
Essos also sent the red woman, and trained Arya. Also all three dragons were from Essos. Most likely Arya's dagger, too.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 30, 2019 21:36:30 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there. Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether. What does everyone think? Who in Essos would believe, or care? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 30, 2019 22:59:14 GMT
Dany had two of the more powerful armies from Essos.
Cercei had the mercenaries from there.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 1, 2019 1:43:00 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there. Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether. What does everyone think? is she still queen in essos? is that the same place she left darrio in charge? if so i think they have betrayed her by now
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 1, 2019 3:05:10 GMT
What makes you think he would even have known of Essos? It's common knowledge. Jumping to the conclusions they need, whenever it fits. That's how I recognise idiots not worth listening to. Welcome to the trash can.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 1, 2019 8:04:03 GMT
Who in Essos would believe, or care? Because eventually, the White Walkers and the undead army would come for them too... plus all of Westeros that they didn't help. Them caring is a matter of personal survival and people are mostly selfish by nature.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 1, 2019 8:21:46 GMT
is she still queen in essos? is that the same place she left darrio in charge? if so i think they have betrayed her by now Yes...and no. Westeros and Essos are each continents (like how North America and Africa are continents in our world) that make up "the known world" as GRRM calls it. Not all of the world is known (there's uncharted territories of the world) and no complete map is known to exist. Each of these continents (Westros/Essos) are then split up into regions. Essos has The Free Cities (like Braavos where Arya went, Pentos where I believe Dany was raised in hiding, Volantis, etc.), Slaver's Bay, Qarth, etc. Essos is said to bigger than Westeros in the books, which means that they're are most likely way more people there unaccounted for than in Westros...so even more reason for them to seek aide from there in their effort against the White Walkers. Westros has The Storm Lands, The Iron Islands, Dorne, The Riverlands, The Vale, etc. I'm not sure about the first question or the third. They haven't had time to address any of this with the writing. 
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Post by shinnickneth on May 1, 2019 8:28:36 GMT
Jumping to the conclusions they need, whenever it fits. That's how I recognise idiots not worth listening to. Welcome to the trash can. It is common knowledge, Leo. The existence of Essos is common knowledge in Westeros. Even the gutter rat children of King's Landing know about the existence of Essos, which is why they're able to be "Birds" to Varys and other spy masters. If poor homeless children know of Essos, it's fair to assume the Night King (who was full grown man with his own backstory before becoming a White Walker) would know about the existence of Essos. I'm not sure why you're trying to debate anything when you don't even watch the show anymore, and thus, are uninformed.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 1, 2019 8:33:50 GMT
Jumping to the conclusions they need, whenever it fits. That's how I recognise idiots not worth listening to. Welcome to the trash can. It is common knowledge, Leo. The existence of Essos is common knowledge in Westeros. Even the gutter rat children of King's Landing know about the existence of Essos, which is why they're able to be "Birds" to Varys and other spy masters. If poor homeless children know of Essos, it's fair to assume the Night King (who was full grown man with his own backstory before becoming a White Walker) would know about the existence of Essos. I'm not sure why you're trying to debate anything when you don't even watch the show anymore, and thus, are uninformed. So your logic is that if poor children living in a harbour doing business with Essos know of Essos, then the creature lurking north behind a Wall without any connection to anything must know it too. I am not trying to debate anything, just pointing you out as the obvious idiot you are. Whatever you have to say is a pitiful waste of anyone's attention. Learn to shut up
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Post by shinnickneth on May 1, 2019 9:01:55 GMT
So your logic is that if poor children living in a harbour doing business with Essos know of Essos, then the creature lurking north behind a Wall without any connection to anything must know it too. I am not trying to debate anything, just pointing you out as the obvious idiot you are. Whatever you have to say is a pitiful waste of anyone's attention. Learn to shut up No... that was just one example. Essos is home to the biggest bank in the known world (The Iron Bank), it's home to the elite Faceless Men, it's home to the first dragons, it's home to the very feared Dothraki, it's home to the ancient House Targaryen (the last known existing house of Old Valyria) who conquered most of the known world/forged the Iron Throne/ruled for a three hundred years, it's home to the slave cities, it's home to the House of the Undying, etc. There are many reasons for Essos to be known to the people of Westeros. There are many reasons for the Night King - who was once a Stark of Winterfell and would have been taught about such matters as a boy - to know about its existence as well. Learn to take your own advice and get out my thread, you hateful little troll.
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Post by Aj_June on May 1, 2019 9:10:23 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there. Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether. What does everyone think? Do faceless men charge money to do their job? If so then they could have sought their help.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 11:01:21 GMT
It's weird no one thought to send for help from Essos to aid in the fight against the White Walkers. They failed to tap into a complete continent (outside of the Unsullied and Dothraki). It's a especially strange that Dany didn't think of it considering she had lived the majority of her life there. Also, I'm curious what the Night King's plan was after he conquered Westeros. Would he go for Essos? How would he get there? I guess ships and 3 dragons would be the only option...unless he froze The Narrow Sea altogether. What does everyone think? Do faceless men charge money to do their job? If so then they could have sought their help. Yes, they are assassins for hire.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 1, 2019 12:12:37 GMT
So your logic is that if poor children living in a harbour doing business with Essos know of Essos, then the creature lurking north behind a Wall without any connection to anything must know it too. I am not trying to debate anything, just pointing you out as the obvious idiot you are. Whatever you have to say is a pitiful waste of anyone's attention. Learn to shut up No... that was just one example. Essos is home to the biggest bank in the known world (The Iron Bank), it's home to the elite Faceless Men, it's home to the first dragons, it's home to the very feared Dothraki, it's home to the ancient House Targaryen (the last known existing house of Old Valyria) who conquered most of the known world/forged the Iron Throne/ruled for a three hundred years, it's home to the slave cities, it's home to the House of the Undying, etc. There are many reasons for Essos to be known to the people of Westeros. There are many reasons for the Night King - who was once a Stark of Winterfell and would have been taught about such matters as a boy - to know about its existence as well. Learn to take your own advice and get out my thread, you hateful little troll. Ther Night King of the show is not the Night's King of the book, dumbfuck. Why don't you shut up for good?
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Post by shinnickneth on May 1, 2019 16:00:04 GMT
Do faceless men charge money to do their job? If so then they could have sought their help. Yes, they do. It's stated in the books though they're so expensive that even Tywin Lannister couldn't afford them. That's why I was surprised to see D&D write in that some poor, unknown actress could afford to pay them to kill another actress for a job... The only way I can make sense of it was maybe the Faceless Men agreed to do it for free in exchange for a way to test Arya - essentially to see if she was in fact No One.
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Post by Aj_June on May 1, 2019 16:02:48 GMT
Do faceless men charge money to do their job? If so then they could have sought their help. Yes, they do. It's stated in the books though they're so expensive that even Tywin Lannister couldn't afford them. That's why I was surprised to see D&D write in that some poor, unknown actress could afford to pay them to kill another actress for a job... The only way I can make sense of it was maybe the Faceless Men agreed to do it for free in exchange for a way to test Arya - essentially to see if she was in fact No One. The same feelings here. In a way, the faceless men contributed a lot and were probably the reason Westeros and probably that world was saved.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 1, 2019 16:13:47 GMT
Ther Night King of the show is not the Night's King of the book, dumbfuck. Why don't you shut up for good? That's ridiculous. It's like claiming the history of the Targaryens isn't the same in the show as the books. Just because they didn't show it, doesn't mean it isn't the same. Unless they present something that contradicts the books, the books are canon according to those involved in making the show. They said this is ultimately George R.R. Martin's story with only slight differences to the story (specifically the fates of a few small secondary characters). The Night King is not a small secondary character. The material they present in the show (the Night King being sacrificed by Leaf of the Children of the Forest as he's tied to the Great Tree of Winterfell, him choosing to attack Winterfell first after getting past the Wall, the need/want for him to wipe out his past with the Starks, etc.) all points to supporting what is presented in the books. Now you haven't even watched the show for several seasons, so you don't even know what the Night King is. You're talking out of complete ignorance and a need to stroke your superiority complex. I've watched you be nasty/abusive to people online for years. I'm done humoring your antics. Just take your own advice. Get out of my thread.
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