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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 3:16:23 GMT
1. The time travel in this movie can create two people correct? The Gomora that escapes to the present which is our future is the one that exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone is taken. Same thing for Thanos who will go through with the original snap even as his past self is snapped out of existence in the present which is future because that Thanos exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone was taken. Ditto for Nebula.
2. What happened to Thanos' army from Infinity War?
3. Why was there a need for a heist if the stones had to be returned to the exact spot anyway? There was no reason to be sneaky.
4. Why Marvel big battles always suck?
5. At what point in time were we to assume Pepper Potts was a super hero? I couldn't figure out where I had seen the silver Iron Woman before only to find out I never had seen her before.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 4:07:34 GMT
I think Thanos' army from Endgame was mostly the same army during Infinity War. Everyone who as snapped away or died like Ebony Maw weren't snapped away or dead yet.
I have no idea about Pepper Potts and her Iron suit. When I see things like that, I just assumed they're callbacks to the comics that I don't know about. Which is totally fine, but you're not alone wondering how did that happen.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 11:05:51 GMT
I think Thanos' army from Endgame was mostly the same army during Infinity War. Everyone who as snapped away or died like Ebony Maw weren't snapped away or dead yet.
I have no idea about Pepper Potts and her Iron suit. When I see things like that, I just assumed they're callbacks to the comics that I don't know about. Which is totally fine, but you're not alone wondering how did that happen.
It was the same army but it was the 2014 version. When he snapped his fingers, he created a planet, but none of his army was with him and he didn;t leave them on Earth. I guess he snapped them back to where the came from. Another question: Why didn't the telekinetic dude simply grab the Gauntlet?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 1, 2019 12:29:27 GMT
1. The time travel in this movie can create two people correct? The Gomora that escapes to the present which is our future is the one that exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone is taken. Same thing for Thanos who will go through with the original snap even as his past self is snapped out of existence in the present which is future because that Thanos exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone was taken. Ditto for Nebula. 2. What happened to Thanos' army from Infinity War? 3. Why was there a need for a heist if the stones had to be returned to the exact spot anyway? There was no reason to be sneaky. 4. Why Marvel big battles always suck? 5. At what point in time were we to assume Pepper Potts was a super hero? I couldn't figure out where I had seen the silver Iron Woman before only to find out I never had seen her before. It would've complicated things to try to take the stones by force, wouldn't it? But yeah the time travel stuff in this makes no sense, you just have to roll with it. The film either works for you or it doesn't.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 12:52:59 GMT
1. The time travel in this movie can create two people correct? The Gomora that escapes to the present which is our future is the one that exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone is taken. Same thing for Thanos who will go through with the original snap even as his past self is snapped out of existence in the present which is future because that Thanos exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone was taken. Ditto for Nebula. 2. What happened to Thanos' army from Infinity War? 3. Why was there a need for a heist if the stones had to be returned to the exact spot anyway? There was no reason to be sneaky. 4. Why Marvel big battles always suck? 5. At what point in time were we to assume Pepper Potts was a super hero? I couldn't figure out where I had seen the silver Iron Woman before only to find out I never had seen her before. It would've complicated things to try to take the stones by force, wouldn't it? But yeah the time travel stuff in this makes no sense, you just have to roll with it. The film either works for you or it doesn't. It depends on the locale. My point is that there wasn’t much reason to be overly sneaky. It was going to be reset anyway.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 12:55:58 GMT
Why did Black Widows sacrifice work?
The terms I understood was the person who wanted the stone had to kill the thing they loved most. Unless they were narcissistic, it wouldn’t seem either if them would fit this requirement.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 1, 2019 13:15:58 GMT
We literally see several people trying to prevent the stones from being taken.
Ironman 3.
The terms specify sacrificing, not killing. Letting someone go counts as a sacrifice.
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Post by havenless on May 1, 2019 13:24:58 GMT
Why did Black Widows sacrifice work? The terms I understood was the person who wanted the stone had to kill the thing they loved most. Unless they were narcissistic, it wouldn’t seem either if them would fit this requirement. You had to lose that which you love. Hawkeye lost BW by her jumping. He wasn’t required to push her. He experienced the loss while at the altar.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 14:14:39 GMT
We literally see several people trying to prevent the stones from being taken. Ironman 3. The terms specify sacrificing, not killing. Letting someone go counts as a sacrifice. 1. I saw Iron Man 3 where she had super powers but was an end credit or something. 2. we differ on what a sacrifice means. Watching someone die is not the person witnessing it’s sacrifice imo, but if that’s how they want that puzzle to fit obviously it counted in MCU.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 1, 2019 14:23:02 GMT
We literally see several people trying to prevent the stones from being taken. Ironman 3. The terms specify sacrificing, not killing. Letting someone go counts as a sacrifice. 1. I saw Iron Man 3 where she had super powers but was an end credit or something.2. we differ on what a sacrifice means. Watching someone die is not the person witnessing it’s sacrifice imo, but if that’s how they want that puzzle to fit obviously it counted in MCU. It was the climax of the movie.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 1, 2019 14:50:35 GMT
1. The time travel in this movie can create two people correct? The Gomora that escapes to the present which is our future is the one that exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone is taken. Same thing for Thanos who will go through with the original snap even as his past self is snapped out of existence in the present which is future because that Thanos exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone was taken. Ditto for Nebula. 2. What happened to Thanos' army from Infinity War? 3. Why was there a need for a heist if the stones had to be returned to the exact spot anyway? There was no reason to be sneaky. 4. Why Marvel big battles always suck? 5. At what point in time were we to assume Pepper Potts was a super hero? I couldn't figure out where I had seen the silver Iron Woman before only to find out I never had seen her before. 1) Agree that its not clear
2) They were there
3) Now that I think about it, they probably COULD have just strong armed their way through whatever. Why not?
4) Disagree
5) The end of Iron Man 3 was the start of that
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 14:52:27 GMT
1. I saw Iron Man 3 where she had super powers but was an end credit or something.2. we differ on what a sacrifice means. Watching someone die is not the person witnessing it’s sacrifice imo, but if that’s how they want that puzzle to fit obviously it counted in MCU. It was the climax of the movie. I remember her being on fire in the climax and fighting the inevitable MCU bad guy army horde while having her own powers which I think were sucked out of her. It’s been a while since I saw it though.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 1, 2019 14:58:30 GMT
When they planned the heist they did not know they were going to put he stones back at the same spot. It was only after the ancient one talked to Hulk that they realized they had to do it that way.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 15:01:45 GMT
1. The time travel in this movie can create two people correct? The Gomora that escapes to the present which is our future is the one that exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone is taken. Same thing for Thanos who will go through with the original snap even as his past self is snapped out of existence in the present which is future because that Thanos exists a couple of hours after the point in time the stone was taken. Ditto for Nebula. 2. What happened to Thanos' army from Infinity War? 3. Why was there a need for a heist if the stones had to be returned to the exact spot anyway? There was no reason to be sneaky. 4. Why Marvel big battles always suck? 5. At what point in time were we to assume Pepper Potts was a super hero? I couldn't figure out where I had seen the silver Iron Woman before only to find out I never had seen her before. 1) Agree that its not clear
2) They were there
3) Now that I think about it, they probably COULD have just strong armed their way through whatever. Why not?
4) Disagree
5) The end of Iron Man 3 was the start of that
4. I have no idea what people see in them but they are the same each and every time and their movies lose at least a star every time the do them. They must be popular though since they keep doing them. To be clear the snapped backs appearing through the rings is cool, the rest of it is hot garbage recycled about ten times over from previous movies. They are usually just a CGI laden game of hot potato. So annoying.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 15:03:30 GMT
When they planned the heist they did not know they were going to put he stones back at the same spot. It was only after the ancient one talked to Hulk that they realized they had to do it that way. But Hulk was the only one that talked to Ancient One. Heck Thor flat out stole Mjolnir lol which made sense if they were bring the stones back.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 1, 2019 15:15:41 GMT
Thor was not in a fully rational state of mind. Your other point isn't relevant to why they planned it as a heist.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 1, 2019 15:26:08 GMT
Thor was not in a fully rational state of mind. Your other point isn't relevant to why they planned it as a heist. They figured the stones weren't just going to be given to them.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 15:43:28 GMT
I think Thanos' army from Endgame was mostly the same army during Infinity War. Everyone who as snapped away or died like Ebony Maw weren't snapped away or dead yet.
I have no idea about Pepper Potts and her Iron suit. When I see things like that, I just assumed they're callbacks to the comics that I don't know about. Which is totally fine, but you're not alone wondering how did that happen.
It was the same army but it was the 2014 version. When he snapped his fingers, he created a planet, but none of his army was with him and he didn;t leave them on Earth. I guess he snapped them back to where the came from. Another question: Why didn't the telekinetic dude simply grab the Gauntlet? Who's the telekinetic dude? Ebony Maw?
Best guess is the battle was such a zoo that everyone's hands were full somewhere. If you're not following it already then it's a needle in a haystack.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 15:58:17 GMT
It was the same army but it was the 2014 version. When he snapped his fingers, he created a planet, but none of his army was with him and he didn;t leave them on Earth. I guess he snapped them back to where the came from. Another question: Why didn't the telekinetic dude simply grab the Gauntlet? Who's the telekinetic dude? Ebony Maw?
Best guess is the battle was such a zoo that everyone's hands were full somewhere. If you're not following it already then it's a needle in a haystack.
well he was actively trying to stop the people who were carrying the glove and the glove was actually dropped a couple of times so he could have yanked it out of their hands or he could have shot the glove up to the ship. I don’t know if he can levitate humans but if so he could have lifted them and the glove up to the ship.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 1, 2019 15:59:46 GMT
Thor was not in a fully rational state of mind. Your other point isn't relevant to why they planned it as a heist. I didn't make the point you did. But if we are going with Thor be crazy, then that made it less likely the heist plan would work.
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