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Post by Power Ranger on May 2, 2019 13:26:47 GMT
in the US, the authorities should arrest him. That should have been included in the last scenes.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 2, 2019 13:46:23 GMT
in the US, the authorities should arrest him. That should have been included in the last scenes. That's kinda true. He's still a wanted man anywhere outside Wakanda. None of the authorities know about his heroic deeds to give him a pass.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 2, 2019 16:08:42 GMT
Safe to say that the heroic deeds will be revealed and anyone that took part in the Battle against Thanos, that literally saved the world, will be pardoned for any earlier accusations.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 2, 2019 16:24:55 GMT
Safe to say that the heroic deeds will be revealed and anyone that took part in the Battle against Thanos, that literally saved the world, will be pardoned for any earlier accusations. Makes for a fun topic, though. Cap obviously got a pardon after IW, but his crimes were breaking international law to help people. For all we know Bucky assassinated JFK. Talk about having red in your ledger; the public outcry over Bucky's legal fate could be a film in itself. (That would feel repetitive after Civil War.) I wonder if the show will deal with this at all?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 2, 2019 16:32:09 GMT
Safe to say that the heroic deeds will be revealed and anyone that took part in the Battle against Thanos, that literally saved the world, will be pardoned for any earlier accusations. Makes for a fun topic, though. Cap obviously got a pardon after IW, but his crimes were breaking international law to help people. For all we know Bucky assassinated JFK. Talk about having red in your ledger; the public outcry over Bucky's legal fate could be a film in itself. (That would feel repetitive after Civil War.) I wonder if the show will deal with this at all? Well he can always move into the Ecuadorian embassy.
BTW Oswald shot JFK 
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Post by politicidal on May 2, 2019 16:45:02 GMT
Makes for a fun topic, though. Cap obviously got a pardon after IW, but his crimes were breaking international law to help people. For all we know Bucky assassinated JFK. Talk about having red in your ledger; the public outcry over Bucky's legal fate could be a film in itself. (That would feel repetitive after Civil War.) I wonder if the show will deal with this at all? Well he can always move into the Ecuadorian embassy.
BTW Oswald shot JFK No it was Ted Cruz's dad.
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Post by Marendil on May 2, 2019 16:56:21 GMT
Safe to say that the heroic deeds will be revealed and anyone that took part in the Battle against Thanos, that literally saved the world, will be pardoned for any earlier accusations. Makes for a fun topic, though. Cap obviously got a pardon after IW, but his crimes were breaking international law to help people. For all we know Bucky assassinated JFK. Talk about having red in your ledger; the public outcry over Bucky's legal fate could be a film in itself. (That would feel repetitive after Civil War.) I wonder if the show will deal with this at all? Maybe after several alien invasions and half the people in the world discorporated instantaneously and returned five years later the world doesn't have as much difficulty believing in mind control and cryogenic freezing?
Man, can you imagine what it must be like to live in that world? You'd figure there'd be guys on every street corner holding signs saying "The End is Nigh."
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 2, 2019 16:58:40 GMT
Makes for a fun topic, though. Cap obviously got a pardon after IW, but his crimes were breaking international law to help people. For all we know Bucky assassinated JFK. Talk about having red in your ledger; the public outcry over Bucky's legal fate could be a film in itself. (That would feel repetitive after Civil War.) I wonder if the show will deal with this at all? Maybe after several alien invasions and half the people in the world discorporated instantaneously and returned five years later the world doesn't have as much difficulty believing in mind control and cryogenic freezing?
Man, can you imagine what it must be like to live in that world? You'd figure there'd be guys on every street corner holding signs saying "The End is Nigh."
At this point their signs would be written over I don't know how many times. "The End Is Nigh. Again. No, really this time. Here we go again. This is getting ridiculous. Hi mom."
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 2, 2019 17:28:12 GMT
Somebody wants a certain somebody to come out and troll again.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 2, 2019 20:44:06 GMT
Safe to say that the heroic deeds will be revealed and anyone that took part in the Battle against Thanos, that literally saved the world, will be pardoned for any earlier accusations. Oh really? I wasn’t aware of any legislation where good deeds could pardon murder. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 2, 2019 21:41:40 GMT
Safe to say that the heroic deeds will be revealed and anyone that took part in the Battle against Thanos, that literally saved the world, will be pardoned for any earlier accusations. Oh really? I wasn’t aware of any legislation where good deeds could pardon murder. It's called the Constitution. The President can pardon anyone for anything. Also, what part of committed under duress (ie brainwashing) have you not heard of? Also, what part of fantasy happens in comic books do you not understand. In a world with repeated alien invasions and where half the population disappears for 5 years, they may pass some new legislation that you haven't heard of. 
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Post by Marendil on May 2, 2019 22:25:38 GMT
Oh really? I wasn’t aware of any legislation where good deeds could pardon murder. It's called the Constitution. The President can pardon anyone for anything. Also, what part of committed under duress (ie brainwashing) have you not heard of? Also, what part of fantasy happens in comic books do you not understand. In a world with repeated alien invasions and where half the population disappears for 5 years, they may pass some new legislation that you haven't heard of. Come to think about it, how would they prosecute that case? One of the injured parties, the Wakandan government, would likely testify on the behalf of the defendant. Evidence there was definitely something screwy going on when they captured him, the EMP pulse and the dead psychologist that was impersonated, ought to be available. His crimes before that sounded like they were political in nature and so hush-hush no one outside people like Romanov even believed he existed. Hydra totally corrupted SHIELD and conditioned multiple people, there must be evidence of that as well. Some variation of not guilty by reason of insanity would be the most likely verdict if they could actually adduce any reliable evidence he killed anyone or committed any serious crimes outside beating up some German commandos and UN guards with shoot to kill orders.
I doubt any competent prosecutor would even try to bring the case before any court with a modicum of integrity.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 2, 2019 22:38:02 GMT
Oh really? I wasn’t aware of any legislation where good deeds could pardon murder. It's called the Constitution. The President can pardon anyone for anything. Also, what part of committed under duress (ie brainwashing) have you not heard of? Also, what part of fantasy happens in comic books do you not understand. In a world with repeated alien invasions and where half the population disappears for 5 years, they may pass some new legislation that you haven't heard of. Damn. Smackdown with logic and reason.
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Post by Marendil on May 2, 2019 23:30:42 GMT
It's called the Constitution. The President can pardon anyone for anything. Also, what part of committed under duress (ie brainwashing) have you not heard of? Also, what part of fantasy happens in comic books do you not understand. In a world with repeated alien invasions and where half the population disappears for 5 years, they may pass some new legislation that you haven't heard of. Damn. Smackdown with logic and reason. If you accept a pardon you pretty much accept you're considered guilty in many jurisdictions, it's not as good as an acquittal or never having been tried. Bucky shouldn't have to accept responsibility for anything done when brainwashed, the only thing that might be considered is what he did trying to survive when pursued under shoot to kill rules of engagement. The latter's mitigating circumstance would be self defense and I doubt anyone would even bring the case before a court which wasn't rigged.
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Post by merh on May 4, 2019 3:30:03 GMT
I suspect it would be preferred to keep what happened to him quiet.
They had no idea what kettle of fish they were opening.
The US through SHIELD allowed a war hero to be tortured & brainwashed? To commit murders to further government causes?
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