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Post by ShadowSouL on May 5, 2019 18:37:24 GMT
How about Avatar?
And how will this all square away after adjustment for inflation?
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Post by darkpast on May 5, 2019 18:47:37 GMT
Jim we need a rerelease
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Post by Marendil on May 5, 2019 18:56:28 GMT
How about Avatar? And how will this all square away after adjustment for inflation? "Gone with the Wind" will still reign supreme in real dollars (adjusted for inflation).
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Post by scabab on May 5, 2019 19:23:22 GMT
How about Avatar? And how will this all square away after adjustment for inflation? With inflation both Titanic and Avatar are still far bigger than Endgame. According to this en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_filmsAs of 2017, Avatar made $3.25 billion and Titanic made $3.08 billion. That still wouldn't make for a fair comparison because the overseas markets have grown drastically in that time. Avatar made $204 million in China which was unheard of back then but that's not that so usual now, Ready Player One made more than that. Titanic only made $43 million in China. It'd make over ten times that amount now. If it was an apples to apples comparison I bet they'd both be over $4 billion by today's standards.
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Post by jamesbamesy on May 5, 2019 20:01:14 GMT
Holy. Shit.
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Post by Skaathar on May 6, 2019 3:03:13 GMT
How about Avatar? And how will this all square away after adjustment for inflation? With inflation both Titanic and Avatar are still far bigger than Endgame. According to this en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_filmsAs of 2017, Avatar made $3.25 billion and Titanic made $3.08 billion. That still wouldn't make for a fair comparison because the overseas markets have grown drastically in that time. Avatar made $204 million in China which was unheard of back then but that's not that so usual now, Ready Player One made more than that. Titanic only made $43 million in China. It'd make over ten times that amount now. If it was an apples to apples comparison I bet they'd both be over $4 billion by today's standards. To be fair, Titanic also came out during a time that piracy and online streaming/torrents weren't such a big thing yet. Plus it got re-released. Twice if I'm not mistaken. |
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Post by scabab on May 6, 2019 5:44:34 GMT
To be fair, Titanic also came out during a time that piracy and online streaming/torrents weren't such a big thing yet. Plus it got re-released. Twice if I'm not mistaken. That's true but it then it also came out when it couldn't take advantage of the internet's publicity either. Now these Endgame trailers get hundreds of millions of views whereas any Titanic trailer would only be seen in theatre. Endgame was released in 4,600+ theatres across US which is over 1,400 more than Titanic. It also doesn't really get to benefit from merchandising either, there's no Rose and Jack action figures that kids would flock to buy. It was released twice but the second was minor. So really there was just the 3D release in 2012.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 12:27:35 GMT
How about Avatar? And how will this all square away after adjustment for inflation? "Gone with the Wind" will still reign supreme in real dollars (adjusted for inflation). Somebody always brings this up. Back then the entertainment options were watching Gone With The Wind or cow tipping. There's no comparison with today's media marketplace.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 12:51:00 GMT
"Gone with the Wind" will still reign supreme in real dollars (adjusted for inflation). Somebody always brings this up. Back then the entertainment options were watching Gone With The Wind or cow tipping. There's no comparison with today's media marketplace. I'm not sure what you mean, there are very few non-animated films from that era on this list, and it was a wildly different distribution marketplace too.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 13:12:05 GMT
Somebody always brings this up. Back then the entertainment options were watching Gone With The Wind or cow tipping. There's no comparison with today's media marketplace. I'm not sure what you mean, there are very few non-animated films from that era on this list, and it was a wildly different distribution marketplace too. You're not sure what I mean? Think about today's entertainment options as opposed to 1939.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 13:20:10 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean, there are very few non-animated films from that era on this list, and it was a wildly different distribution marketplace too. You're not sure what I mean? Think about today's entertainment options as opposed to 1939. Then why isn't that chart dominated by films from that era?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 13:36:08 GMT
You're not sure what I mean? Think about today's entertainment options as opposed to 1939. Then why isn't that chart dominated by films from that era? Because the other films weren't as popular as Gone With The Wind. I didn't say the film wasn't popular, I'm saying it's harder to stand out from the crowd today. In an era with endless entertainment options from film to television to the internet and video games; when this many people want to see the movie, it's a more impressive feat than doing it in 1939.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 13:54:03 GMT
Then why isn't that chart dominated by films from that era? Because the other films weren't as popular as Gone With The Wind. I didn't say the film wasn't popular, I'm saying it's harder to stand out from the crowd today. In an era with endless entertainment options from film to television to the internet and video games; when this many people want to see the movie, it's a more impressive feat than doing it in 1939. It's not even close though, is it? By and large only children's animated films from that era that got repeated mass re-releases even show up on the board. What that means is in a country (and world) with a significantly lower population and drastically less disposable income, when things considered necessities today may have been luxuries (like indoor plumbing), more people went to go see that movie--above and beyond any others--it still holds that record today. I think that's impressive enough it shouldn't be discounted.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 14:01:31 GMT
Because the other films weren't as popular as Gone With The Wind. I didn't say the film wasn't popular, I'm saying it's harder to stand out from the crowd today. In an era with endless entertainment options from film to television to the internet and video games; when this many people want to see the movie, it's a more impressive feat than doing it in 1939. It's not even close though, is it? By and large only children's animated films from that era that got repeated mass re-releases even show up on the board. What that means is in a country (and world) with a significantly lower population and drastically less disposable income, when things considered necessities today may have been luxuries (like indoor plumbing), more people went to go see that movie--above and beyond any others--it still holds that record today. I think that's impressive enough it shouldn't be discounted. This is the point I'm making. How many opportunities for escapism did those people have as opposed to today? It's a staggering amount of tickets sold, don't get me wrong. (And to your earlier point, there were a lot less theaters back then. A LOT less.) But to me, a true phenomenon in today's market is harder to accomplish than it was back then. There are so many alternatives for the average person to choose from today, and they're all choosing one film, in record time, worldwide.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 14:29:48 GMT
It's not even close though, is it? By and large only children's animated films from that era that got repeated mass re-releases even show up on the board. What that means is in a country (and world) with a significantly lower population and drastically less disposable income, when things considered necessities today may have been luxuries (like indoor plumbing), more people went to go see that movie--above and beyond any others--it still holds that record today. I think that's impressive enough it shouldn't be discounted. This is the point I'm making. How many opportunities for escapism did those people have as opposed to today? It's a staggering amount of tickets sold, don't get me wrong. (And to your earlier point, there were a lot less theaters back then. A LOT less.) But to me, a true phenomenon in today's market is harder to accomplish than it was back then. There are so many alternatives for the average person to choose from today, and they're all choosing one film, in record time, worldwide. I'd rather save up for a warm place to shit and hot water on tap!
I hope it breaks the nominal dollar record too, I hit the domestic opening pretty close and have it just surpassing the other records, but from a financial standpoint and as a cultural phenomenon I don't see a reason to discount GWTW just because it hasn't been beaten yet and may be tough to do so.
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Post by politicidal on May 6, 2019 15:07:38 GMT
Gonna take a shot in the dark and guess this is KKB’s thread?
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 6, 2019 20:32:30 GMT
I’ve said it before, but I still say that Titanic is probably the most impressive box office accomplishment of all time. It was number one at the box office for 15 weeks, had a 20x multiplier, and made twice the amount that the previous highest grossing film of all time had made. All of that without a massive market in the form of China, or 3D ticket prices.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 7, 2019 8:22:51 GMT
You're not sure what I mean? Think about today's entertainment options as opposed to 1939. Then why isn't that chart dominated by films from that era? They weren't rereleased 100 times? Or is GWTW's record its original run only? That's never really been made clear to me in these adjusted lists. |
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Post by Marendil on May 7, 2019 9:21:22 GMT
Then why isn't that chart dominated by films from that era? They weren't rereleased 100 times? Or is GWTW's record its original run only? That's never really been made clear to me in these adjusted lists. Not really, not like the animated children's films that are pretty much the only others from that era that show up on that list. They would get re-released like new movies every decade or two. The vast majority of GWTW's gross came from its original release.
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