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Post by CrepedCrusader on May 6, 2019 13:11:54 GMT
...was going to grab Cersei and pull her over with her. I'm sure a lot of people would have been angry that they killed Cersei off so suddenly and unexpectedly, but I actually thought it was cool. That didn't happen of course, which leads me to the question: why didn't Missandei do that? They we're both on the edge of the wall, and she knew she was going to die anyway.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 6, 2019 13:13:18 GMT
...was going to grab Cersei and pull her over with her. I'm sure a lot of people would have been angry that they killed Cersei off so suddenly and unexpectedly, but I actually thought it was cool. That didn't happen of course, which leads me to the question: why didn't Missandei do that? They we're both on the edge of the wall, and she knew she was going to die anyway. how would she grab cersei when she was in chains?? cersei is not stupid she wont stand so close mountain was right behind missandei
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Post by CrepedCrusader on May 6, 2019 13:16:45 GMT
...was going to grab Cersei and pull her over with her. I'm sure a lot of people would have been angry that they killed Cersei off so suddenly and unexpectedly, but I actually thought it was cool. That didn't happen of course, which leads me to the question: why didn't Missandei do that? They we're both on the edge of the wall, and she knew she was going to die anyway. how would she grab cersei when she was in chains?? cersei is not stupid she wont stand so close mountain was right behind missandei IIRC, at one point Cersei puts her hand on Missandei. At that point she was close enough that Missandei could have just turned and grabbed hold of her. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 6, 2019 13:20:14 GMT
how would she grab cersei when she was in chains?? cersei is not stupid she wont stand so close mountain was right behind missandei IIRC, at one point Cersei puts her hand on Missandei. At that point she was close enough that Missandei could have just turned and grabbed hold of her. honestly? i think missandei was waiting for a dragon to come above and start burning to save her , this is why her last words were dracarys dont think dany would give up any of her dragons or any status/claim for missandei she died for nothing -i wonder how greyworm will react to this after all he did love her
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Post by kevin on May 6, 2019 13:22:08 GMT
Besides the fact that it would've most likely failed due to many guards being in close proximity (except for maybe one moment when Cersei put her hands on Missandei), it would've probably also killed many if not most people from Tyrion/Dany's delegation, including themselves. If Cersei dies the guards with bows would've most likely killed everyone down there. That's also why I think Dany didn't attack with Drogon. Maybe they could've tried something, but Cersei would go behind the wall and everyone else (Tyrion, Grey Worm etc.) would die pretty much immediately due to the archers.
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Post by Nightman on May 6, 2019 13:28:44 GMT
IIRC, at one point Cersei puts her hand on Missandei. At that point she was close enough that Missandei could have just turned and grabbed hold of her. honestly? i think missandei was waiting for a dragon to come above and start burning to save her , this is why her last words were dracarys dont think dany would give up any of her dragons or any status/claim for missandei she died for nothing -i wonder how greyworm will react to this after all he did love her The only dragon present was too closely watched, and she knew Rhaegal is too busy swimming with the fishes. Her last word was telling Dany to avenge her, and that is exactly what she will do.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 6, 2019 13:40:52 GMT
honestly? i think missandei was waiting for a dragon to come above and start burning to save her , this is why her last words were dracarys dont think dany would give up any of her dragons or any status/claim for missandei she died for nothing -i wonder how greyworm will react to this after all he did love her The only dragon present was too closely watched, and she knew Rhaegal is too busy swimming with the fishes. Her last word was telling Dany to avenge her, and that is exactly what she will do. Yes, they come here as invaders and want to be avenged when they fail. When the resentful don't get their whim, they get really mad. What a bunch of shit characters! Their popularity makes me sick.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 6, 2019 13:43:20 GMT
honestly? i think missandei was waiting for a dragon to come above and start burning to save her , this is why her last words were dracarys dont think dany would give up any of her dragons or any status/claim for missandei she died for nothing -i wonder how greyworm will react to this after all he did love her The only dragon present was too closely watched, and she knew Rhaegal is too busy swimming with the fishes. Her last word was telling Dany to avenge her, and that is exactly what she will do. she will succeed burning euron and others many innocents but avenging sometimes can be bittersweet
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Post by Nightman on May 6, 2019 14:08:47 GMT
The only dragon present was too closely watched, and she knew Rhaegal is too busy swimming with the fishes. Her last word was telling Dany to avenge her, and that is exactly what she will do. Yes, they come here as invaders and want to be avenged when they fail. When the resentful don't get their whim, they get really mad. What a bunch of shit characters! Their popularity makes me sick. I hope you have a fireproof sweater, ser lion. The Red Keep is burning, whether it's from the final lizard for the secret stash of wildfyre. It can't happen fast enough.
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Post by Nightman on May 6, 2019 14:12:02 GMT
The only dragon present was too closely watched, and she knew Rhaegal is too busy swimming with the fishes. Her last word was telling Dany to avenge her, and that is exactly what she will do. she will succeed burning euron and others many innocents but avenging sometimes can be bittersweet There may or may not be some innocents left in King's Landing. I don't really care. Most of the peasants there are aholes. When the city finally gets torched, the rest of the realm will be better off.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 6, 2019 14:19:52 GMT
she will succeed burning euron and others many innocents but avenging sometimes can be bittersweet There may or may not be some innocents left in King's Landing. I don't really care. Most of the peasants there are aholes. When the city finally gets torched, the rest of the realm will be better off. i do not think babies and children are aholes. she claims shes some type of saviour and if she does that she will be anything but that no matter how much you are provoked , this just shows how power hungry for the throne she is i mean she got down on her knees to beg jon to let her have the iron throne cant get any worse than that shes desperate
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 6, 2019 14:24:20 GMT
she will succeed burning euron and others many innocents but avenging sometimes can be bittersweet There may or may not be some innocents left in King's Landing. I don't really care. Most of the peasants there are aholes. When the city finally gets torched, the rest of the realm will be better off. It looks like fire or the water under Euron's ship. I f…cking hate water 
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 6, 2019 14:29:52 GMT
There may or may not be some innocents left in King's Landing. I don't really care. Most of the peasants there are aholes. When the city finally gets torched, the rest of the realm will be better off. i do not think babies and children are aholes. she claims shes some type of saviour and if she does that she will be anything but that no matter how much you are provoked , this just shows how power hungry for the throne she is Does she claim that or is it just the fantasy of her followers? It certainly is that of her stupid fans. As to King's Landing, as one of the main harbours and entry points for trade, this is the most valuable place in the Seven Kingdoms, no matter what stinking resentful, dumb idealists and pitiful egalitarians think.
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Post by Nightman on May 6, 2019 14:32:26 GMT
There may or may not be some innocents left in King's Landing. I don't really care. Most of the peasants there are aholes. When the city finally gets torched, the rest of the realm will be better off. i do not think babies and children are aholes. she claims shes some type of saviour and if she does that she will be anything but that no matter how much you are provoked , this just shows how power hungry for the throne she is i mean she got down on her knees to beg jon to let her have the iron throne cant get any worse than that shes desperate Babies and children are the biggest aholes. Believe me.
I don't see the problem. She doesn't want to have to turn her boyfriend into dragon food. I just wish it can be Rhaegal who has the honor, while Ghost smirks in the background.
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Post by Nightman on May 6, 2019 14:33:51 GMT
There may or may not be some innocents left in King's Landing. I don't really care. Most of the peasants there are aholes. When the city finally gets torched, the rest of the realm will be better off. It looks like fire or the water under Euron's ship. I f…cking hate water
Don't be a scaredy cat.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 6, 2019 14:34:01 GMT
i do not think babies and children are aholes. she claims shes some type of saviour and if she does that she will be anything but that no matter how much you are provoked , this just shows how power hungry for the throne she is Does she claim that or is it just the fantasy of her followers? It certainly is that of her stupid fans. As to King's Landing, as one of the main harbours and entry points for trade, this is the most valuable place in the Seven Kingdoms not matter what stinking resentful, dumb idealists and pitiful egalitarians think. this is how tyrion explained it to sansa about dany and her followers , you see how her people follow her and love her , i believe in her ,why try to provoke her? tyrion trying really hard to convince himself which sansa replies youre afraid of her ...tyrion didnt deny it now compare this to what dany told jon how she was envious how people looked at him and how people on this side of the sea never will look at her the same way , she was jealous of all the attention and love jon was getting /
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 6, 2019 14:49:39 GMT
Does she claim that or is it just the fantasy of her followers? It certainly is that of her stupid fans. As to King's Landing, as one of the main harbours and entry points for trade, this is the most valuable place in the Seven Kingdoms not matter what stinking resentful, dumb idealists and pitiful egalitarians think. this is how tyrion explained it to sansa about dany and her followers , you see how her people follow her and love her , i believe in her ,why try to provoke her? tyrion trying really hard to convince himself which sansa replies youre afraid of her ...tyrion didnt deny it Tyrion was the sceptic one in S5 and Jorah was the believer when they walked into the pirates. Then Tyrion was questioning her then he suddenly turned into a believer at the end of S6 because she had listened to him once. We could suspect he was playing her but I read it as the shithead wanting to believe that someone was giving him recognition at last. Then things changed. I understand the freed slaves who followed her. She did "save" them and the Unsullied were brainwashed into not fearing anything anyway. But the others? Dothraki came for the fun of it, for a good life of warring and being the greatest ever. They weren't saved. No one else was. Then she helped put out the fire she set off herself by bringing the Night King a dragon. Gendry or poor old dead Edd (for the sake of Sam Sorry Roundface) were as much a saviour as she was.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 6, 2019 15:55:04 GMT
...was going to grab Cersei and pull her over with her. I'm sure a lot of people would have been angry that they killed Cersei off so suddenly and unexpectedly, but I actually thought it was cool. That didn't happen of course, which leads me to the question: why didn't Missandei do that? They we're both on the edge of the wall, and she knew she was going to die anyway. SPOILERS!!!
Of course, its what any of us would have done!
But as you said yourself, folks would have been angry that Cersei would have died such a unexpected way. Because in short, there's no drama in a death like that. Even all the characters that died in the previous episode had some dramatic element in their deaths. Writers go where the drama is.
Misandei's death has drama in that she says "drakaris" before dying, which tells us she knows she's going to die and is asking for vengeance, and in the previous episode had talked with greyworm about life after the war.
The dragons death was dramatic in that we thought "wow, the dragon is feeling better already! Good!" and then... pow!
Just when you thought the show was done with cruel deaths for its heroes! This was supposed to be the season where the bad guys got theirs. Nope! We're not done with the cruelty!
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 6, 2019 15:57:13 GMT
This was supposed to be the season where the bad guys got theirs. Looks like it's what's happening.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 6, 2019 15:57:29 GMT
...was going to grab Cersei and pull her over with her. I'm sure a lot of people would have been angry that they killed Cersei off so suddenly and unexpectedly, but I actually thought it was cool. That didn't happen of course, which leads me to the question: why didn't Missandei do that? They we're both on the edge of the wall, and she knew she was going to die anyway. how would she grab cersei when she was in chains?? cersei is not stupid she wont stand so close mountain was right behind missandei Did you not see the moment when Cersei grabbed her arm? That's how close they were. Did you not see that Misandei wrists were manacled, but her hands were actually free? Good thing its HBO because you can watch it again!
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