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Post by Skaathar on May 9, 2019 17:54:45 GMT
Is it possible that he's trying to be even MORE wrong? Pretty sure he's a narcissistic masochist. He loves attention and will do anything to get it, even if it means making himself a complete imbecile.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 9, 2019 17:58:43 GMT
Is it possible that he's trying to be even MORE wrong? Pretty sure he's a narcissistic masochist. He loves attention and will do anything to get it, even if it means making himself a complete imbecile. Then why did he edit his post when I quoted his "changed changes in the timeline," comment? Either he wants attention for being a moron or he doesn't. He clearly has multiple mental conditions, I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything he does at this point.
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Post by dazz on May 9, 2019 18:25:03 GMT
Pretty sure he's a narcissistic masochist. He loves attention and will do anything to get it, even if it means making himself a complete imbecile. Then why did he edit his post when I quoted his "changed changes in the timeline," comment? Either he wants attention for being a moron or he doesn't. He clearly has multiple mental conditions, I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything he does at this point. Because he wants attention for his intended idiocy maybe? when he gets mocked for unintentional stupidity he cannot handle it because then is his demented little raisin of a brain, his warped nugget of shit he calls his mind he cannot just laugh it off as though he did this on purpose, so he gets embarrassed by it?
Makes you laugh because we all make stupid mistakes, embrace the doh moments in life, it's usually more fun to laugh with everyone else than to try and hide the mistake imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 18:49:18 GMT
She's not holding it there, but she is allegedly strong enough to hold it. She's depicted as holding the hammer in the paintings in Odin's palace.
For all we know, it's hers. Or the painting could flatter her with fictionalization, depicting her accomplishing a feat of strength beyond her means in reality. Technically it could even be a different hammer.
Once upon a time, she may have been considered worthy.
She may also be so strong that being worthy isn't a necessary requirement, and that she is invisibly fed strength through unique forces like Asgard that she overwhelms whatever enchantment Odin may put on it.
It's even possible that when Odin passed away, the enchantment is no longer in effect. Odin's magic was keeping Hela in exile and she showed up right after he died, so we can surmise that when a being like Odin passes, some of his enchantments go with him.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 9, 2019 19:37:29 GMT
She's not holding it there, but she is allegedly strong enough to hold it. She's depicted as holding the hammer in the paintings in Odin's palace.
For all we know, it's hers. Or the painting could flatter her with fictionalization, depicting her accomplishing a feat of strength beyond her means in reality. Technically it could even be a different hammer.
Once upon a time, she may have been considered worthy.
She may also be so strong that being worthy isn't a necessary requirement, and that she is invisibly fed strength through unique forces like Asgard that she overwhelms whatever enchantment Odin may put on it.
It's even possible that when Odin passed away, the enchantment is no longer in effect. Odin's magic was keeping Hela in exile and she showed up right after he died, so we can surmise that when a being like Odin passes, some of his enchantments go with him. Strength has nothing to do with it. Odin didn't put the worthiness spell on it until the first Thor movie which was centuries after Hela held it in that painting.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 10, 2019 2:34:18 GMT
It's even possible that when Odin passed away, the enchantment is no longer in effect. You've come up with the best explanation so far for why Steve Rogers can pick up Thor's hammer. Not because Steve Rogers is worthy, because a tyrant and accessory to murder is definitely not worthy, but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead.
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Post by Skaathar on May 10, 2019 2:36:05 GMT
It's even possible that when Odin passed away, the enchantment is no longer in effect. You've come up with the best explanation so far for why Steve Rogers can pick up Thor's hammer. Not because Steve Rogers is worthy, because a tyrant and accessory to murder is definitely not worthy, but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. If you actually watched the movies, you'd know that there was no enchantment on Mjolnir back when Hela was its wielder.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 2:57:45 GMT
It's even possible that when Odin passed away, the enchantment is no longer in effect. You've come up with the best explanation so far for why Steve Rogers can pick up Thor's hammer. Not because Steve Rogers is worthy, because a tyrant and accessory to murder is definitely not worthy, but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. Except that can't be true because Rogers held the hammer. Which means Odin's enchantment on the hammer didn't expire with him. For all you know, since that hammer comes from a timeline where Odin is still alive, it was never disenchanted.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 10, 2019 3:23:01 GMT
You've come up with the best explanation so far for why Steve Rogers can pick up Thor's hammer. Not because Steve Rogers is worthy, because a tyrant and accessory to murder is definitely not worthy, but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. Except that can't be true because Rogers held the hammer. Rogers held the hammer because Odin is dead and the hammer is no longer enchanted.
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Post by Skaathar on May 10, 2019 3:49:58 GMT
Except that can't be true because Rogers held the hammer. Rogers held the hammer because Odin is dead and the hammer is no longer enchanted. If the hammer wasn't enchanted then Cap shouldn't have been granted Thor's powers. *DC-Fan just got owned*
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Post by DC-Fan on May 10, 2019 3:56:08 GMT
Rogers held the hammer because Odin is dead and the hammer is no longer enchanted. If the hammer wasn't enchanted then Cap shouldn't have been granted Thor's powers. *DC-Fan just got owned* Cap wasn't granted Thor's powers. Did Cap fly? Cap just picked up the hammer, but now we know the reason Cap was able to pick up the hammer wasn't because he's worthy (because a tyrant and accessory to murder certainly isn't worthy) but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead.
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Post by Skaathar on May 10, 2019 4:06:26 GMT
If the hammer wasn't enchanted then Cap shouldn't have been granted Thor's powers. *DC-Fan just got owned* Cap wasn't granted Thor's powers. Did Cap fly? Cap just picked up the hammer, but now we know the reason Cap was able to pick up the hammer wasn't because he's worthy (because a tyrant and accessory to murder certainly isn't worthy) but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. Oh yeah, forgot that you haven't watched the movie. Well let me spoil it for you: Cap was able to use lightning, which he wouldn't be able to without being granted Thor's power.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 10, 2019 4:11:23 GMT
Cap wasn't granted Thor's powers. Did Cap fly? Cap just picked up the hammer, but now we know the reason Cap was able to pick up the hammer wasn't because he's worthy (because a tyrant and accessory to murder certainly isn't worthy) but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. Oh yeah, forgot that you haven't watched the movie. Well let me spoil it for you: Cap was able to use lightning, which he wouldn't be able to without being granted Thor's power. The lightning is part of the hammer's power. Anyone holding the hammer can channel the lightning.
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Post by Skaathar on May 10, 2019 4:15:04 GMT
Oh yeah, forgot that you haven't watched the movie. Well let me spoil it for you: Cap was able to use lightning, which he wouldn't be able to without being granted Thor's power. The lightning is part of the hammer's power. Anyone holding the hammer can channel the lightning. No it isn't. Again, you'd know this if you watched Ragnarok. The lightning is Thor's power, not Mjolnir's. Odin specifically says this.
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Post by dazz on May 10, 2019 11:46:26 GMT
If the hammer wasn't enchanted then Cap shouldn't have been granted Thor's powers. *DC-Fan just got owned* Cap wasn't granted Thor's powers. Did Cap fly? Cap just picked up the hammer, but now we know the reason Cap was able to pick up the hammer wasn't because he's worthy (because a tyrant and accessory to murder certainly isn't worthy) but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. Thor cant fly either you piss dribbling pillock, he throws the hammer and hold on to it, the hammer is what flies Thor merely holds on to it, and Thor has the lightning power Mjolnir is merely a conduit to allow Thor easier usage of it when he was younger.
Cap also isn't a tyrant or dictator again learn the fucking meaning of the words you stupid cúnt, he's a bit of a prick at times, but so is Thor so clearly that's not a cause for unworthiness, but seriously just you know shut the fuck up and go away you moron.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 10, 2019 12:58:19 GMT
You've come up with the best explanation so far for why Steve Rogers can pick up Thor's hammer. Not because Steve Rogers is worthy, because a tyrant and accessory to murder is definitely not worthy, but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. If you actually watched the movies, you'd know that there was no enchantment on Mjolnir back when Hela was its wielder. Or if he read my post when I pointed it out in the other thread.
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Post by bud47 on May 10, 2019 15:03:36 GMT
If the hammer wasn't enchanted then Cap shouldn't have been granted Thor's powers. *DC-Fan just got owned* Cap wasn't granted Thor's powers. Did Cap fly? Cap just picked up the hammer, but now we know the reason Cap was able to pick up the hammer wasn't because he's worthy (because a tyrant and accessory to murder certainly isn't worthy) but simply because the hammer is no longer enchanted now that Odin is dead. Technically, it's a different hammer. The hammer that Cap used in Endgame was brought back in time from 2013 (events of Thor The Dark World). Therefore, it was still enchanted, since Odin was still alive in that timeline/reality. It required worthiness and Cap was worthy to wield it.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 10, 2019 15:19:19 GMT
Why do we bother? DC-Fan is incapable of comprehending anything. He still doesn't understand the rules of time travel in Endgame, despite the fact that they literally drew a picture of it in the movie.
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Post by poutinep on May 10, 2019 19:53:40 GMT
Oh yeah, forgot that you haven't watched the movie. Well let me spoil it for you: Cap was able to use lightning, which he wouldn't be able to without being granted Thor's power. The lightning is part of the hammer's power. Anyone holding the hammer can channel the lightning. In the first Thor, Odin enchants Mjolnir, saying "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." In Thor: Ragnarok, we see the following exchange between Thor and force-ghost Odin
Thor: She's too strong. Without my hammer, I can't... Odin: Are you 'Thor, the god of hammers'? Thor: *Uses lightning powers without hammer*
Therefore, Rogers was able to wield the hammer and have Thor's powers. He didn't fly because...well, he didn't want to.
This is as 2 + 2 = 4 as it gets.
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Post by bud47 on May 10, 2019 20:30:20 GMT
The lightning is part of the hammer's power. Anyone holding the hammer can channel the lightning. In the first Thor, Odin enchants Mjolnir, saying "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." In Thor: Ragnarok, we see the following exchange between Thor and force-ghost Odin
Thor: She's too strong. Without my hammer, I can't... Odin: Are you 'Thor, the god of hammers'? Thor: *Uses lightning powers without hammer*
Therefore, Rogers was able to wield the hammer and have Thor's powers. He didn't fly because...well, he didn't want to.
This is as 2 + 2 = 4 as it gets.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious to anyone except the dim-witted. You would have to completely ignore Ragnarok to think otherwise. Even then, if the power came from the hammer, the enchantment would say "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Mjolnir."
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