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Post by Aj_June on May 11, 2019 6:58:29 GMT
I know that nature is unmerciful and struggle for survival is fierce but this is a completely new information for me.
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Post by mecano04 on May 11, 2019 22:10:48 GMT
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Post by Aj_June on May 12, 2019 0:55:45 GMT
It's damn scary, man Do you think it is genetically encoded in the cuckoo chick to throw his competitors out of the nest...I mean that is a vicious little baby there.
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Post by mecano04 on May 12, 2019 1:26:37 GMT
It's damn scary, man Do you think it is genetically encoded in the cuckoo chick to throw his competitors out of the nest...I mean that is a vicious little baby there. I'm no specialist but calling it genetically encoded, instinct or something else doesn't change the fact that's one specific action to that species of bird. I'm not saying such incidents don't happen elsewhere but for that kind of bird, it does seem to come "naturally".
In the Brow-headed Cowbird, they found one detail about the bird that could explain the parasitic laying of the egg. It may be the case for the common Cuckoo too, but for the Cowbird, both genders lack the Brood (or Incubation) patch. It's an area that develops on the lower abdomen of birds in which the feathers drop off and the skin thickens and becomes densely populated with blood vessels. It's used in incubation to keep eggs and young warm.
Since both genders lack that patch, it means they can't effectively incubate an egg, so they have to let others do it. The theory is that since at the beginning this bird was following Bison herds and eating insects of them, it couldn't build a nest in one place and travel the long distances for food, has the herds moved. So over the years they "lost" that patch. So it's a parasitic way of reproduction but it's not really based on the bird being a pure a-hole, it just can't incubate it's own egg.
Anyway, the dilemma still remains, do you save the nest that has been invaded by sacrificing the egg of a bird who has no other means or do you let an innocent bird family go to wasted by letting it slide?
Even if they are parasites, somehow I doubt they were ever in such numbers that other species went extinct solely on that basis.
Nature is cruel.
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Post by Aj_June on May 12, 2019 1:37:30 GMT
mecano04Thanks for all that info. I am not very knowledgeable on the issue but I read that certain birds derive some benefits out of brood parasitism. Cuckoo's eggs have a certain smell that keeps many predators away and so many times crows eggs get saved because of that. But I didn't read any proper article but just youtube comment.
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Post by mecano04 on May 12, 2019 21:05:50 GMT
mecano04 Thanks for all that info. I am not very knowledgeable on the issue but I read that certain birds derive some benefits out of brood parasitism. Cuckoo's eggs have a certain smell that keeps many predators away and so many times crows eggs get saved because of that. But I didn't read any proper article but just youtube comment. We'll I'm no expert myself, I'm just an amateur ornithologist who happens to read on what I see.
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Post by politicidal on May 12, 2019 21:07:31 GMT
Real bastards they are.
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