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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 20, 2019 2:47:32 GMT
Well that was stupid.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 3:00:32 GMT
I liked the episode a fair bit. But it boils down to: a throwaway character got the thrones, the one morally good character got dealt the shittiest hand, Arya boutta discover America and Sam almost invented fucking democracy. Oof.
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Post by Aj_June on May 20, 2019 3:16:57 GMT
Bran might be one of the greatest trolls in tv history. Hilarious. Got this from freefolk board.
Bran: I don’t ‘want’ Also Bran:
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Post by Nightman on May 20, 2019 3:22:05 GMT
Bran might be one of the greatest trolls in tv history. Hilarious. Got this from freefolk board. Bran: I don’t ‘want’ Also Bran:
Exactly. He has been planning this for a while, and knows what to say.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on May 20, 2019 3:23:33 GMT
Only a few hours left until Game of Thrones is over. Any last-minute predictions? yes jonsa happens please yes Thank God we’ll be done with your sick fantasy.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 3:30:36 GMT
I'd give it basically a 3 or a 4 out of 10. The whole thing basically just fell flat for me as I expected it would. I felt no emotional impact upon anything that happened.
Was I supposed cry or feel something when Jon killed Dany? I was never invested in them as a relationship to begin with.
Was I supposed to support Bran as the new King? I found that to be incredibly stupid. So he's King because he can tell stories? That seemed like Tyrion's reasoning.
Why is the North now independent despite a Stark now being King? Why didn't anyone else just decide to do that when Bran agreed to it so quickly?
Who were half of those people sitting there deciding on the new King? Didn't recognize half of them. Had subtitles on and they were literally just named "Man #1, 2, etc"
Nobody's final arc really felt impactful to me at all. So Sansa is now Queen of Winterfell...meh. Jon is now either living with the Wildlings or he's back with the Nights Watch with no watch to be had??? Arya is just pissing off I guess? Tyrion being hand of the king I guess is as good of an ending one could expect from him.
The best parts of the episode for me were Tyrion finding Jaime and Cersei dead. I wasn't expecting them to be addressed at all considering how they chose to kill them off last week. As well as Brienne adding to Jaime's chapter in the Kings Guard book. That felt nice and touching.
Literally everything else just fell flat. I see no point getting worked up over it though as it really lost me last week. Of all the series finale's over the years it was indeed one of them. Pretty much on par with the likes of Lost and Dexter imo.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 20, 2019 3:42:12 GMT
Was I supposed cry or feel something when Jon killed Dany? I was never invested in them as a relationship to begin with. Was I supposed to support Bran as the new King? I found that to be incredibly stupid. So he's King because he can tell stories? That seemed like Tyrion's reasoning. Why is the North now independent despite a Stark now being King? Why didn't anyone else just decide to do that when Bran agreed to it so quickly? Who were half of those people sitting there deciding on the new King? Didn't recognize half of them. Had subtitles on and they were literally just named "Man #1, 2, etc" Apparently. That's the ending I expected for Jaime and Cersei, which honestly would have had more impact. Jon and Dany felt like f*ck buddies. Tyrion's reasoning was that Bran's story was inspirational and thus people would get behind him as king. Still a random and stupid choice, though. I thought the same exact thing. Two kingdoms, one Stark monopoly, everyone cool? Eh. Surviving leaders of their houses. Brown guy with fancy clothes was Martell, Asha was Greyjoy, Invincible Sam the Tarly, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 3:50:06 GMT
Was I supposed cry or feel something when Jon killed Dany? I was never invested in them as a relationship to begin with. Was I supposed to support Bran as the new King? I found that to be incredibly stupid. So he's King because he can tell stories? That seemed like Tyrion's reasoning. Why is the North now independent despite a Stark now being King? Why didn't anyone else just decide to do that when Bran agreed to it so quickly? Who were half of those people sitting there deciding on the new King? Didn't recognize half of them. Had subtitles on and they were literally just named "Man #1, 2, etc" Apparently. That's the ending I expected for Jaime and Cersei, which honestly would have had more impact. Jon and Dany felt like f*ck buddies. Tyrion's reasoning was that Bran's story was inspirational and thus people would get behind him as king. Still a random and stupid choice, though. I thought the same exact thing. Two kingdoms, one Stark monopoly, everyone cool? Eh. Surviving leaders of their houses. Brown guy with fancy clothes was Martell, Asha was Greyjoy, Invincible Sam the Tarly, etc. I recognized Asha and obviously Sam. I was assuming the dude in the gown was from Dorne but just basically a nobody until now. Then there were two older guys next to him and another younger-ish guy. They weren't given names from the subtitles and they didn't look familiar at all. Just random people filling in for these "house leaders" it seems. Apparently the titty suck kid, Aaron? Was his name or something was there. Didn't recognize him.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on May 20, 2019 4:10:41 GMT
Apparently. That's the ending I expected for Jaime and Cersei, which honestly would have had more impact. Jon and Dany felt like f*ck buddies. Tyrion's reasoning was that Bran's story was inspirational and thus people would get behind him as king. Still a random and stupid choice, though. I thought the same exact thing. Two kingdoms, one Stark monopoly, everyone cool? Eh. Surviving leaders of their houses. Brown guy with fancy clothes was Martell, Asha was Greyjoy, Invincible Sam the Tarly, etc. I recognized Asha and obviously Sam. I was assuming the dude in the gown was from Dorne but just basically a nobody until now. Then there were two older guys next to him and another younger-ish guy. They weren't given names from the subtitles and they didn't look familiar at all. Just random people filling in for these "house leaders" it seems. Apparently the titty suck kid, Aaron? Was his name or something was there. Didn't recognize him. I pretty much recognized most of them but I agree the end was a little flat although I didn’t hate it. IMO most series finales are flat because they’re wrapping up everyone’s story so there’s no real need for a lot of action. As far as the Starks I believe they made it pretty clear that they’re all separate now so Bran being King has no impact on the North being separate given they have been for so long. In a way I feel sorry for D&D because they were tasked with wrapping up someone else’s story. How hard can that be? GRRM is a shitty writer but if the series went a touch sideways it’s because he didn’t finish it.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 20, 2019 6:12:35 GMT
What sucks is that I don't have HBO, so I have to use...other avenues to watch it, which entails having to wait until it's aired in it's entirety and is put online. Why not just get a 7 day free trial of HBO Now and watch it as soon as it was made available?
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Post by shinnickneth on May 20, 2019 6:28:20 GMT
Well with GRRM most likely to never finish the books and Roy Dotrice now deceased, I'm thankful to see an ending to this series. It wasn't perfect but it's an ending. It was certainly "Bittersweet" as GRRM stated years ago. I'm ok with Jon not being king. Westeros has seen enough Targaryens rule. I'm surprised Jon didn't demand a Trial By Combat against Greyworm, but I suppose he just accepted his fate... Bran lacks ego and other human frailties, so he's the best choice currently alive I suppose. It was good to see they didn't forget about Edmure or sweet little Robin. I'm not sure why in the hell Bronn was allowed on Bran's Small Council as Master of Coin of all positions...did they learn nothing from the last cutthroat Master of Coin, Littlefinger?! That was dumb.
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Post by lordarvidthexiii on May 20, 2019 6:36:17 GMT
Well with GRRM most likely to never finish the books and Roy Dotrice now deceased, I'm thankful to see an ending to this series. It wasn't perfect but it's an ending. It was certainly "Bittersweet" as GRRM stated years ago. I'm ok with Jon not being king. Westeros has seen enough Targaryens rule. I'm surprised Jon didn't demand a Trial By Combat against Greyworm, but I suppose he just accepted his fate... Bran lacks ego and other human frailties, so he's the best choice currently alive I suppose. It was good to see they didn't forget about Edmure or sweet little Robin. I'm not sure why in the hell Bronn was allowed on Bran's Small Council as Master of Coin of all positions...did they learn nothing from the last cutthroat Master of Coin, Littlefinger?! That was dumb. I would have enjoyed trial by combat against that cockless, unthinking jerk. As for Bronn, I would have executed him. If he didn't fight to retake King's Landing, fuck him, don't threaten people in a castle filled with enemies, who could kill you were alarm raised. Had he aided in the attack on King's Landing, keep the deal.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 20, 2019 6:42:11 GMT
I liked the episode a fair bit. But it boils down to: a throwaway character got the thrones, the one morally good character got dealt the shittiest hand, Arya boutta discover America and Sam almost invented fucking democracy. Oof. Sam confirmed as the laughable dumbfuck he's always been. Yes, I know the authors mean the opposite but I'll stick it in their face anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 6:58:02 GMT
Well with GRRM most likely to never finish the books and Roy Dotrice now deceased, I'm thankful to see an ending to this series. It wasn't perfect but it's an ending. It was certainly "Bittersweet" as GRRM stated years ago. I'm ok with Jon not being king. Westeros has seen enough Targaryens rule. I'm surprised Jon didn't demand a Trial By Combat against Greyworm, but I suppose he just accepted his fate... Bran lacks ego and other human frailties, so he's the best choice currently alive I suppose. It was good to see they didn't forget about Edmure or sweet little Robin. I'm not sure why in the hell Bronn was allowed on Bran's Small Council as Master of Coin of all positions...did they learn nothing from the last cutthroat Master of Coin, Littlefinger?! That was dumb. I would have liked to have seen them fight. However as it's been said that was outlawed by Tommon. Not saying any previous Kings rulings matter worth a fuck now that the "wheel is broken" but whatevs.
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Post by Troyal1 on May 20, 2019 7:02:18 GMT
I’m actually glad the show is over. I feel like I’ve been put out of my misery.
Probably the most boring episode of the show to date, which is unacceptable in a finale. And no I don’t mean action and battles.
At no point was I even invested in any of the dialogue, and the dialogue is my favorite part of the show. The dragon pit scene was a good example of something that should be interesting but fell completely flat. Lots of holes in motivations and plot imo.
Also for the red keep being destroyed there’s a convenient amount of important stuff that is completely untouched. If Cersei and Jamie stayed in the tower of the hand they’d have been fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 7:44:21 GMT
I’m actually glad the show is over. I feel like I’ve been put out of my misery. Probably the most boring episode of the show to date, which is unacceptable in a finale. And no I don’t mean action and battles. At no point was I even invested in any of the dialogue, and the dialogue is my favorite part of the show. The dragon pit scene was a good example of something that should be interesting but fell completely flat. Lots of holes in motivations and plot imo. Also for the red keep being destroyed there’s a convenient amount of important stuff that is completely untouched. If Cersei and Jamie stayed in the tower of the hand they’d have been fine. I'm kind of glad it's over at this point too. For most of the time I loved this show. However this last season just mostly wasn't very enjoyable for me outside of a few moments here and there. I used to think that "damn I am going to miss this show" to now thinking "yeah, knowing now how it ends and how the final season played out...I won't miss it." It just sucks. Reminds me a lot of how I felt in regards to many shows like Lost/Dexter/HIMYM. The way it ended kind of taints how I look back on the show as a whole as unfairly as that may be. I was mad last week given the one character I was emotionally invested in going out the way they did. This week? I just shrugged my shoulders at the finale because I guess I just didn't care anymore. So yeah, I'm not going to miss this show. Had I told my past self this 3 years ago I'd have thought I was crazy.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:01:49 GMT
My response the moment Tyrion confessed that he loved Dany to Jon Snow
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Post by movieliker on May 20, 2019 8:07:00 GMT
I thought both Tyrion and Jon were stupid. That is the way things were done back then in Earth history. You bow to the conquering army or they sack your city and burn it to the ground.
Tyrion and Jon should have just followed Daenerys.
Stupid.
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Post by Skaathar on May 20, 2019 9:26:32 GMT
Jon should just never have told anyone his real name. Because in the end, it mattered not one whit. Then maybe him and Dany could have rule properly.
Anyway, big disappointment as a finale. The entire episode felt slooow.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 20, 2019 10:46:17 GMT
At least the dog's happy
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