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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 19:11:38 GMT
You are hiding behind semantics. It is wrong to kill anyone unless they are an imminent threat to your life or physical well being. Abortion is wrong. Right now, it is legalized murder. Nope. If it's legal, it's not murder. Stop trying to change the meaning of words. Its legal, and it is wrong. It was legal in Nazi Germany to exterminate Jews. Does it being legal make it right?
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 19:21:04 GMT
Nope. If it's legal, it's not murder. Stop trying to change the meaning of words. Its legal, and it is wrong. It was legal in Nazi Germany to exterminate Jews. Does it being legal make it right? You never said anything about it being wrong. You said it was murder. It's not. Besides, no one is rounding up women and forcing them to have abortions. So that's not the same thing as what happened in Germany. Do not confuse body autonomy with the holocaust.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 19:38:30 GMT
Its legal, and it is wrong. It was legal in Nazi Germany to exterminate Jews. Does it being legal make it right? You never said anything about it being wrong. You said it was murder. It's not. Besides, no one is rounding up women and forcing them to have abortions. So that's not the same thing as what happened in Germany. Do not confuse body autonomy with the holocaust. So, we agree it is wrong in most cases?
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 19:41:28 GMT
You never said anything about it being wrong. You said it was murder. It's not. Besides, no one is rounding up women and forcing them to have abortions. So that's not the same thing as what happened in Germany. Do not confuse body autonomy with the holocaust. So, we agree it is wrong in most cases? Nope. We don't. I see nothing wrong with a woman deciding what happens to her body. Please read only the words I type.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 19:46:09 GMT
So, we agree it is wrong in most cases? Nope. We don't. I see nothing wrong with a woman deciding what happens to her body. Please read only the words I type. Well regardless of what you think or believe, it is wrong. Taking any human being's life for any reason other than self-defense is wrong. Sorry, that's a fact.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 19:50:53 GMT
Nope. We don't. I see nothing wrong with a woman deciding what happens to her body. Please read only the words I type. Well regardless of what you think or believe, it is wrong. Taking any human being's life for any reason other than self-defense is wrong. Sorry, that's a fact. Incorrect. Abortion is a medical procedure. It can be a lifesaving one for the mother. So those "facts" are merely opinions.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 20:31:10 GMT
How can we as humans beings actually manipulate this into a "Woman's Rights" issue? With birth control readily available to the public, morning after pills, etc. Late term Abortion is just murder. There is no way to make this okay. You are killing a baby. What is the difference between me walking into a hospital, a woman saying "I made a mistake, I don't know what I was thinking. I can't be a mother." So I stab a baby in the neck and throw him/her into a trash can... Or two hours earlier while he/she is still in the womb stabbing the baby before it comes out? You're as right about this as you were about Boston stopping Giannis. I wasn't wrong about this. Terry Rozier confirmed when the C's swept the Pacers then destroyed Milwaukee in game one the Media was hugging Kyrie's nuts and saying obey your master. So the team quit on purpose and want Kyrie to leave.
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Post by Marv on May 15, 2019 20:43:39 GMT
When I refer to living on their own I pretty much solely mean without the use of the mothers organs. This is getting ridiculous. Of course there is some difference between a pre birth baby and a post birth baby. But so what? They are both human beings with the DNA set up pre-determining there body type, and mental, psychological and emotional make up. That person will never get another chance at life if it is murdered. I’m not sure what you’re arguing? I feel like maybe you’ve crossed a few different lines of conversation.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 20:50:23 GMT
Well regardless of what you think or believe, it is wrong. Taking any human being's life for any reason other than self-defense is wrong. Sorry, that's a fact. Incorrect. Abortion is a medical procedure. It can be a lifesaving one for the mother. So those "facts" are merely opinions. Its only lifesaving when the life or health of the mother is at risk. Then it is self-defense. Most people support abortion when the life or health of the mother is at risk. Otherwise it is murder. Maybe not legally. But morally and ethically. That's a fact jack.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 20:57:46 GMT
This is getting ridiculous. Of course there is some difference between a pre birth baby and a post birth baby. But so what? They are both human beings with the DNA set up pre-determining there body type, and mental, psychological and emotional make up. That person will never get another chance at life if it is murdered. I’m not sure what you’re arguing? I feel like maybe you’ve crossed a few different lines of conversation. Sorry if I misunderstood you. My point is "Abortion is wrong except when the life or health of the mother is at risk."
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 21:38:58 GMT
Incorrect. Abortion is a medical procedure. It can be a lifesaving one for the mother. So those "facts" are merely opinions. Its only lifesaving when the life or health of the mother is at risk. Then it is self-defense. M ost people support abortion when the life or health of the mother is at risk. Otherwise it is murder. Maybe not legally. But morally and ethically. That's a fact jack. So it's not the procedure people have a problem with. Good to know people can turn a blind eye when it suits them. And no, it's not murder. That's a legal term defining a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Please stop lying.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 21:44:48 GMT
Its only lifesaving when the life or health of the mother is at risk. Then it is self-defense. M ost people support abortion when the life or health of the mother is at risk. Otherwise it is murder. Maybe not legally. But morally and ethically. That's a fact jack. So it's not the procedure people have a problem with. Good to know people can turn a blind eye when it suits them. And no, it's not murder. That's a legal term defining a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Please stop lying. Its unjustifiable homicide. That's murder. You cannot kill anybody just because you find their existence inconvenient.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 21:48:25 GMT
So it's not the procedure people have a problem with. Good to know people can turn a blind eye when it suits them. And no, it's not murder. That's a legal term defining a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Please stop lying. Its unjustifiable homicide. That's murder. You cannot kill anybody just because you find their existence inconvenient. Nope. Homicide is also a legal term defining a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Please stop lying.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 21:50:16 GMT
Its unjustifiable homicide. That's murder. You cannot kill anybody just because you find their existence inconvenient. Nope. Homicide is also a legal term defining a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Please stop lying. I guess killing thousands of Jewish men, women and children in Nazi Germany wasn't murder either, huh?
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 21:55:58 GMT
Nope. Homicide is also a legal term defining a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Please stop lying. I guess killing thousands of Jewish men, women and children in Nazi Germany wasn't murder either, huh? Incorrect again. And faulty analogy, as no one is rounding up women to perform abortions against their will. Please stop lying.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 22:04:55 GMT
I guess killing thousands of Jewish men, women and children in Nazi Germany wasn't murder either, huh? Incorrect again. And faulty analogy, as no one is rounding up women to perform abortions against their will. Please stop lying. In order to avoid you being pedantic, and consistent with the title of this thread, abortion is wrong. Its unjustifiable homicide. And consistent with the definition of legally defined murder, abortion is taking a human life for any other reason than self-defense.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 15, 2019 22:06:28 GMT
Incorrect again. And faulty analogy, as no one is rounding up women to perform abortions against their will. Please stop lying. In order to avoid you being pedantic, and consistent with the title of this thread, abortion is wrong. Its unjustifiable homicide. And consistent with the definition of legally defined murder, abortion is taking a human life for any other reason than self-defense. Nope. Homicide is a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Stop lying.
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Post by Marv on May 15, 2019 22:24:32 GMT
I’m not sure what you’re arguing? I feel like maybe you’ve crossed a few different lines of conversation. Sorry if I misunderstood you. My point is "Abortion is wrong except when the life or health of the mother is at risk." My initial post was basically saying I support the mothers choice to abort at any time during the pregnancy, but if it’s so far along that the child can survive the procedure then I’m for attempting to do so.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 22:24:51 GMT
In order to avoid you being pedantic, and consistent with the title of this thread, abortion is wrong. Its unjustifiable homicide. And consistent with the definition of legally defined murder, abortion is taking a human life for any other reason than self-defense. Nope. Homicide is a crime. Abortion is legal. The exact opposite of a crime. Stop lying. Ha ha ha . . . You are hiding behind semantics. Abortion is wrong.
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Post by movieliker on May 15, 2019 22:27:20 GMT
Sorry if I misunderstood you. My point is "Abortion is wrong except when the life or health of the mother is at risk." My initial post was basically saying I support the mothers choice to abort at any time during the pregnancy, but if it’s so far along that the child can survive the procedure then I’m for attempting to do so. I think abortion should be legal. BUT IT IS WRONG ANYTIME AFTER INCEPTION. Unless the life or health of the mother is at risk. Then it is justifiable homicide (self-defense).
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