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Post by darkpast on May 18, 2019 4:58:01 GMT
Stan Winston , anyone? Di$ney said cgi only now, looks like videogame now
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Post by scabab on May 18, 2019 5:17:37 GMT
Iron Man had plenty of CGI, mostly during it's final battle with Iron Monger.
The CGI involved there was much worse than it is now which is why they set the scene at night to cover it up. Something that isn't necessary anymore.
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Post by darkpast on May 18, 2019 5:22:54 GMT
Iron Man had plenty of CGI, mostly during it's final battle with Iron Monger. The CGI involved there was much worse than it is now which is why they set the scene at night to cover it up. Something that isn't necessary anymore. not sure about that. But some of that was late getting added, Favreau got more budget from Paramount after Transformers was smash hit.
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Post by Vassaggo on May 18, 2019 5:47:34 GMT
Um... they used a shit ton of Cgi almost all Cgi. They started with the practical effects but RDJ hated it. By the end it was almost all CGI.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 18, 2019 5:52:12 GMT
They used some practical suits but a lot of cgi too. I think the aerial stuff in that was pretty bad. They never stop to smell the cumulus nimbus. Where he rescues the falling pilot--they should have spent more time in the air-appreciating the amazing novelty of it.
Instead its
whoosh snatch thank you.
Plus the musical score... Ramin Djawdi please fuck off. The score only gets better after he has his heart attack. Films like that need a traditional score not heavy metal garbage.
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Post by scabab on May 18, 2019 6:05:21 GMT
Well this is a video of it.
You can see whenever he moves too much that it's CGI, it'd be much more noticeable if the scene was set during the day. It still holds up but you can tell. Same with Iron Man 2 when he fights Whiplash which again was another fight scene at night. The Silver Iron Man having his test flight was at night and so on.
They may have had the practical suit in the original movie but he did spend a lot more time on the ground there, like when he fought the terrorists or blew up the tank and largely while fighting Iron Monger which they got around by him not having much energy left to fly or the different suit up scenes.
They've made him much more aerial now though and you can't exactly have a practical suit for that.
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Post by Vassaggo on May 18, 2019 6:09:00 GMT
Well this is a video of it. You can see whenever he moves too much that it's CGI, it'd be much more noticeable if the scene was set during the day. It still holds up but you can tell. Same with Iron Man 2 when he fights Whiplash which again was another fight scene at night. The Silver Iron Man having his test flight was at night and so on. They may have had the practical suit in the original movie but he did spend a lot more time on the ground there, like when he fought the terrorists or blew up the tank and largely while fighting Iron Monger which they got around by him not having much energy left to fly or the different suit up scenes. They've made him much more aerial now though and you can't exactly have a practical suit for that. They started with the practical suit, but kept taking parts off until they were down to just the helmet or part of the chest plate. In the video I posted you see when Ironmonger comes after him he is completely in a CGI Marker Suit with a Helmet. They even ditched the Mark 1 practical suit for a fully cgi'ed one when he was on the ground. (for the moving parts) Edit: Would the one that froze on test flight be the Mark 1 or the Mark 2. (Mark 1 in the Cave?)
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 18, 2019 7:24:01 GMT
The practical suits Stan's company made were cool but unfortunately there's only so much you can do with practical effects, especially with what they wanted to do in the film.
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Post by scabab on May 18, 2019 8:36:21 GMT
Edit: Would the one that froze on test flight be the Mark 1 or the Mark 2. (Mark 1 in the Cave?) The Mark 1 was what was used in the cave. The Mark 2 was the Silver Iron Man, which was then used in Iron Man 2 to fight the other Iron Man.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 18, 2019 13:19:54 GMT
The CGI involved there was much worse than it is now which is why they set the scene at night to cover it up. Something that isn't necessary anymore. I wonder if we're finally coming out of that era. Jurassic Park of course, the T-Rex's finest moments in the darkened rain. I realize that dark &/or rain have forever been artistic notes, cgi or no cgi. It just seems like so often the more memorable cgi cinematic action have been night shots.
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Post by Skaathar on May 18, 2019 17:02:37 GMT
The problem with practical effects is although they look good, they don't move good. Why do you think the fight scenes in IM were so basic? They'd never be able to pull off Ironman's fights against Thor or Thanos without heavy cgi.
Look at the difference between how Kurse moves compared to Thanos and Hulk and how Kurse's fight with Thor is one of the worst choreographed fights in the MCU.
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Post by politicidal on May 18, 2019 17:20:11 GMT
The problem with practical effects is although they look good, they don't move good. Why do you think the fight scenes in IM were so basic? They'd never be able to pull off Ironman's fights against Thor or Thanos without heavy cgi. This.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 19:35:09 GMT
Mostly all the same to me. I don't think the CGI was really starting to grate on me until the opening of Age of Ultron. By the end, it seems like it was virtually all CGI. Even Hulk looked different from Age of Ultron to Thor: Ragnarok.
It must be so strange to fight/act in front of a green screen, or act/rebound off people who aren't really there. In Civil War when they had Iron Man show a CGI version of himself interacting with his parents, it was like Disney just jerking off their money in our faces.
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Post by gljbradley on May 19, 2019 5:17:57 GMT
This is why I think that a mixture of practical effects and CGI should be equally used at certain times.
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