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Post by Jayman on May 20, 2019 15:08:57 GMT
In general nobody should really stare at anybody because it's rude. But it's not like you're in a state prison where somebody is going to take it as a sign of disrespect and shank you. you sure? :-) sometimes I feel like its a matter of pure luck to get out of the car alive ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . especially in the rush hour. also there is almost always one person yelling odd things or praying/preaching/being odd loud. the other day this woman was talking about killing people out loud. saying things like “i will just bash their heads in”. nobody seemed to care. i wonder if somethinf like thus falls under “see something say something” or not. Whad do you think? she did seem crazy but nor appeared homeless. im not sure. I rode the subway thousands of times and 99% of the time there was nothing weird going on like all that
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Post by Nora on May 20, 2019 15:32:14 GMT
you sure? :-) sometimes I feel like its a matter of pure luck to get out of the car alive ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . especially in the rush hour. also there is almost always one person yelling odd things or praying/preaching/being odd loud. the other day this woman was talking about killing people out loud. saying things like “i will just bash their heads in”. nobody seemed to care. i wonder if somethinf like thus falls under “see something say something” or not. Whad do you think? she did seem crazy but nor appeared homeless. im not sure. I rode the subway thousands of times and 99% of the time there was nothing weird going on like all that well then its just me maybe ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . i take it 10-14 times a week and most during rush hour and I observe there is something like that happening on more than half of those rides.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 20, 2019 17:15:03 GMT
im not sure. I rode the subway thousands of times and 99% of the time there was nothing weird going on like all that well then its just me maybe ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . i take it 10-14 times a week and most during rush hour and I observe there is something like that happening on more than half of those rides. Yes, there's always stuff going on in subway cars, especially late at night. I've seen people relieve themselves on the floor, get into fights and cussing and yelling are absolutely the order for the day. And it's nothing to see a homeless person sleeping or maybe passed out and taking up three,if not four, seats on the car. In general, people leave these poor guys alone. But, yes, riding public transit is usually not boring.
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Post by Jayman on May 20, 2019 19:21:19 GMT
im not sure. I rode the subway thousands of times and 99% of the time there was nothing weird going on like all that well then its just me maybe ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . i take it 10-14 times a week and most during rush hour and I observe there is something like that happening on more than half of those rides. then you’re already a seasoned ny traveler Nora. You don’t need our advice ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Nora on May 20, 2019 19:45:39 GMT
well then its just me maybe ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . i take it 10-14 times a week and most during rush hour and I observe there is something like that happening on more than half of those rides. then you’re already a seasoned ny traveler Nora. You don’t need our advice ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) but I do, I experience new things almost every day. Like the bag on seat thing that the lady claimed was a rule. Or not doing anything if someone talks about killing people - my natural impulse would be to do somethung but maybe thats out of line. Plus I feel like there are more rules than I know. Like which side people stand on the escalators or which side they walk on the stairs etc.
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Post by Jayman on May 20, 2019 20:30:03 GMT
then you’re already a seasoned ny traveler Nora. You don’t need our advice ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) but I do, I experience new things almost every day. Like the bag on seat thing that the lady claimed was a rule. Or not doing anything if someone talks about killing people - my natural impulse would be to do somethung but maybe thats out of line. Plus I feel like there are more rules than I know. Like which side people stand on the escalators or which side they walk on the stairs etc. it all comes with experience.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 20, 2019 23:01:55 GMT
I've seen people relieve themselves on the floor See, I knew it happened!
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Post by Nora on May 20, 2019 23:07:48 GMT
I see it just like you do, I may be seen as “overly friendly” since I look at people, and will smile when we make eye contact, but especially on the subway I understand now its undesirable. But you are right, ocassionally someone does respond in the same way and you share a smile and a split second spiritual exchange and its wonderful. On my block there is this little kid that always plays outside and most of the time alone. He is probably 5-6. On my street I have noticed it is customary to greet people as you walk by, thats how you know they are local. So I do. I apply it to children too, and wave at them or say hello as I walk by. So far everybody responds the same way, smiles and/or says hello back. Except for this little boy. He never says it back and frowns instead. Seems scared of me or appears hostile toward me for reasons I dont understand. Like he will play with his ball or toy car and will stop everything and stare at me as if I was major danger or somehow hurt him/his family, and waits for me to pass by before he resumes play. I continue to greet him when I walk by, just like everybody does, and openly smile to show I am no threat, but maybe I should stop and just ignore him or walk the other way or something else in order not to distress him. but since I see him pehaps 3-4 times a week it may be even weirder. His father greets me and smiles back when he is there his mother not so much but still, but the boy just treats me like the enemy. Which in a way is good for him, I mean he should not be friendly with strangers etc, its just so unusual on a block where we all know and greet each other and where I have been living for 2 years and I am unsure what would be the best course of action on my part. So with subway I recognize eye contact is “against the social norm” and I follow the rules for the most part. And when I dont its mostly because I really like something on someone - but I understand people might think its otherwise. If the parents of the kid are greeting you and the kid sees this, he would know you are not a threat, however, he may perhaps have some disorder Nora, like a touch of autism or he may just be shy. Kids are still sussing out people and the world, and no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. His parents might be the creeps. you are right i didnt consider it from those angles good point.
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Post by goz on May 21, 2019 1:12:47 GMT
Thanks for this thread.
I am going to NYC in a couple of weeks and want to know how not to make a 'faux pas', like I did on the subway in Prague, Czech Republic.
I smiled at a toddler and a dog and said 'Hi! and the mother/owner reacted as though I was about to abduct them.
I guess having lived under the Soviets for decades made people pretty wary of strangers!
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Post by Nora on May 21, 2019 1:36:33 GMT
Thanks for this thread. I am going to NYC in a couple of weeks and want to know how not to make a 'faux pas', like I did on the subway in Prague, Czech Republic. I smiled at a toddler and a dog and said 'Hi! and the mother/owner reacted as though I was about to abduct them. I guess having lived under the Soviets for decades made people pretty wary of strangers! haha thats the kinda reaction i get here too sometimes. how long are you going to nyc for? first time?
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Post by goz on May 21, 2019 1:43:23 GMT
F Thanks for this thread. I am going to NYC in a couple of weeks and want to know how not to make a 'faux pas', like I did on the subway in Prague, Czech Republic. I smiled at a toddler and a dog and said 'Hi! and the mother/owner reacted as though I was about to abduct them. I guess having lived under the Soviets for decades made people pretty wary of strangers! haha thats the jinda kook and reaction i get here too sometimes. how long are you going to nyc for? first time? First time to mainland USA, only been to maui before, and 1 week in Denver and 1 week in NYC. Can' wait!
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Post by Nora on May 21, 2019 2:52:51 GMT
gameboy I agree Thai food is delicious. May be my favorite to eat these days...
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Post by mstreepsucks on May 21, 2019 4:14:03 GMT
If a crowded subway has one seat free, there you'll find a homeless man's pee.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 21, 2019 4:38:53 GMT
I would say that the number one rule for riding on public transportation is avoid making eye contact with the other person. As soon as you make eye contact, especially with a stranger, you are totally opening yourself up... I think many, if not most, people interpret eye contact as a challenge, and possibly even a threat. It's really a shame, because you can have the best of intentions and be a sincerely friendly person, but most people don't see it that way. I have had to practice not doing this, because I am a naturally open person and I really like making eye contact. And sometimes - if you are a half way intuitive person, and I know that you are - then you just may see something in the other person that is not very pleasant, and they know that you know it through nothing more than the exchange. It can be frightening. Once in a while, you can get a pleasant look that tells you that the other person is happy to meet you half way, and that is a super pleasant feeling, and I love it when it does happen, but I would say this is less than 20% of the time. I think too Mr. Dirty, when people are placed and crammed into this melting pot where they rather wouldn't be and just want to get to where they are going without much interaction or inconveniences, other than just the physical presence of being around others, and this can't be helped, courtesy is key, but not everyone is operating from the same manners. That said, being a very visual person myself, I do like to take the sly furtive glances at what is smoldering and hot. It can make things so much more enjoyable. Yes, Toasted Cheese, at this stage of the game, I understand what you are saying, but I was slow in getting there, I can tell you. I think it has a lot to do with the kind of energy a person has, not necessarily good, not necessarily bad, but always different. I love public transportation in the city, always have, always will, and I crave human contact. Of course, most people do. Duh. Maybe more than some others, this I cannot know for sure, probably not, but, I think I am just a whole lot more transparent than probably 95% of the adult population. And I love making eye with contact people - and it rarely (though once in a while, yes!) has anything to do with sexual attraction. There is an exchange of energy when two people make eye contact with each other. SMS had some of this kind of transparency; unfortunately, he never learned to embrace it. It could have been so much more pleasant for him if he had just let go. Like Nora said, when you make eye contact with other person and you smile and they smile back, it is a spiritual experience! How beautifully Nora put this! I really have to go against my own nature when I make it a point to NOT look somebody in the eye. For better or for worse, I guess I would describe myself - and I am borrowing Pauline Kael's words here - as "willfully vulnerable". Or at least very close to it. Oh, well. Except to the extent that I do not wish to offend, I'm not all that compelled to change. (The nasty feminists are the exception to the "no offense" rule! Oh, wow, do they make themselves easy targets!) It's what makes life interesting, I guess.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 21, 2019 4:46:07 GMT
I've seen people relieve themselves on the floor See, I knew it happened! "I thought I was gonna die! - Roseanne Roseanna Danna
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Post by dirtypillows on May 21, 2019 4:58:19 GMT
In general nobody should really stare at anybody because it's rude. But it's not like you're in a state prison where somebody is going to take it as a sign of disrespect and shank you. you sure? :-) sometimes I feel like its a matter of pure luck to get out of the car alive ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) . especially in the rush hour. also there is almost always one person yelling odd things or praying/preaching/being odd loud. t he other day this woman was talking about killing people out loud. saying things like “i will just bash their heads in”. nobody seemed to care. i wonder if somethinf like thus falls under “see something say something” or not. Whad do you think? she did seem crazy but nor appeared homeless. Exactly! Encountering a noticeably unbalanced person on the subway is not by any stretch a rare thing, but the thing that IS surreal to me is that somebody will be spouting nonsense, bordering on violent, and I always look at the other people on the car and almost every time nobody even seems to notice! What's going on here? Now, I ask myself, is it because these people have learned how to successfully not give away any clues, or is it that they are so tuned into themselves that they really do not notice the person who is ranting and raving? I think it's a true phenomenon. It's like the scene from "Midnight Cowboy" when Joe Buck first comes to New York City and comes across the man passed out drunk on the sidewalk, and everybody else just steps right over/past the poor creature. And Joe gets this puzzled look on his face that I totally relate to, like "Does anybody see this person besides me?" (I adore Joe because Joe is adorable.)
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Post by Nora on May 21, 2019 12:11:50 GMT
If a crowded subway has one seat free, there you'll find a homeless man's pee. or ketchup or curry sauce. yep every single time.
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Post by Nora on May 21, 2019 12:13:11 GMT
gameboy I agree Thai food is delicious. May be my favorite to eat these days... Thai is utterly my favorite food. I love Indian of course. But the Thai have their own version of curry plus!!! mine would be thai, italian and then indian too. or chinese. or better yet - asian fusion ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by dirtypillows on May 21, 2019 21:11:56 GMT
I'm not understanding this at all. ![::gonemad::](https://s26.postimg.cc/vdrisscd5/gonemad.gif) Thai food is delicious!!! As for King Leopold, Belgium should have never turned over the Congo to the barbarians!!! I just had it for dinner. A curry laksa. Cleared out my sinuses. That must have been a strong curry, Toasted Cheese! I love curry, but only like the really mild curry. Do you like panang curry? And then there's a Thai dish that is prepared with Coconut milk that is really delicious. There might be curry with that as well.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 21, 2019 21:13:37 GMT
If a crowded subway has one seat free, there you'll find a homeless man's pee. or ketchup or curry sauce. yep every single time. For some reason I have been coming across a lot of potato chip crumblings on the train. Either that, or I keep getting on the same train and nobody is cleaning it.
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