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Post by pk9 on May 28, 2019 18:19:29 GMT
i think they assassinated jons character in the finale Well, he's not alone.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 28, 2019 20:07:48 GMT
i agree when you see a man in love like jamie was with cersei contrast to jon and dany was like night and day , i think they assassinated jons character in the finale , it was awful to see how they diminished him ,someone who stood up for principles , for what was right , someone who is against burning suddenly questioning be doubtful or if it was right to stop dany who was planning to conquer and burn whoever stood in the way … personally i think they left a lot of hole gaps for GRRM to fill in the books . Jon handled conflict better in earlier seasons. He had no such trouble deciding to save the wildlings in S5. He went to Maester Aemon with the question but wasn't made to look like a feeling wreck about it. He had no trouble leaving the Night's Watch after coming back either, even though Edd made a compelling argument against it. Jon was able to resolve conflicting principles and take decisions before. Jon "in love" was a very different man then, and yet he never seemed to be before? To the point where people would convincingly theorise he was just using Daenerys for the higher goal he had. Yet, I don't think the books will end any differently. Maybe Jon will be more convincingly in love at least. Or maybe we'll get whole chapters of his naughty thoughts to make up for it. My guess is that it will be interesting to contrast disparaging reviews book fans make of the show today with those they'll make of the books basically pulling out the same junk in a more logical looking way. i just feel dream of spring which is last book was never covered on the show finale , two green leaves growing from the snow is not the entire dream of spring story , yes GRRM said books will end same way but he said no as well , i think the major plots will end the same but with more substance so we can understand better so hopefully he will add more as to what jon was feeling or not and with who he really was in love , jon in the end chose sansa over dany , like i was saying all along , jon would have to make a tough choice and dany stans were hoping for a targ baby/restoration and jon wouldn't be able to do it for that reason and end up killing sansa instead this is their fantasy and like i was saying all along no targ baby , no targ restoration , jon loves sansa anot dany he proved it with this actions he killed dany ,but sansa and jon are still alive although separated there are a lot of unresolved feelings that farewell between them said more than meets the eye ,and if GRRM wanted to do a sequel he could , but i think there may be some kind of twist in the last book D&D fools didnt want to cover.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 29, 2019 5:38:03 GMT
Jon handled conflict better in earlier seasons. He had no such trouble deciding to save the wildlings in S5. He went to Maester Aemon with the question but wasn't made to look like a feeling wreck about it. He had no trouble leaving the Night's Watch after coming back either, even though Edd made a compelling argument against it. Jon was able to resolve conflicting principles and take decisions before. Jon "in love" was a very different man then, and yet he never seemed to be before? To the point where people would convincingly theorise he was just using Daenerys for the higher goal he had. Yet, I don't think the books will end any differently. Maybe Jon will be more convincingly in love at least. Or maybe we'll get whole chapters of his naughty thoughts to make up for it. My guess is that it will be interesting to contrast disparaging reviews book fans make of the show today with those they'll make of the books basically pulling out the same junk in a more logical looking way. i just feel dream of spring which is last book was never covered on the show finale , two green leaves growing from the snow is not the entire dream of spring story , yes GRRM said books will end same way but he said no as well , i think the major plots will end the same but with more substance so we can understand better so hopefully he will add more as to what jon was feeling or not and with who he really was in love , jon in the end chose sansa over dany , like i was saying all along , jon would have to make a tough choice and dany stans were hoping for a targ baby/restoration and jon wouldn't be able to do it for that reason and end up killing sansa instead this is their fantasy and like i was saying all along no targ baby , no targ restoration , jon loves sansa anot dany he proved it with this actions he killed dany ,but sansa and jon are still alive although separated there are a lot of unresolved feelings that farewell between them said more than meets the eye ,and if GRRM wanted to do a sequel he could , but i think there may be some kind of twist in the last book D&D fools didnt want to cover. A Dream Of Spring is not Spring. I think the title might relate to Daenerys' delusion of breaking the wheel and feature the story after the battle of Winterfell. There will hopefully be more about the politics and relationships between Jon, Daenerys, the North and all others. GRRM keeps stating the obvious about the books having more characters and sub-plots, but he never says the main characters could end differently, so I think apart from Bronn, who never was a main character, all others will go out of the story the same way.
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