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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 22, 2019 19:44:11 GMT
and has nothing to do being his aunt i don't buy that for a second , in their world aunts/cousins marry ( neds parents were cousins) doubt that was a big issue for jon if they were so in love , and jon broke vows before when he lived with the wildings ( ygritte).
I think he couldnt stomach her any longer the more he got to know her the more sick he was of her actions
correct me if im wrong didnt stannis burn mance the king beyond the wall? and didnt jon shot an arrow so the man wouldn't suffer???
and yet this is same jon who stood by dany when she burned varys, a man who supported jon and his claim to the throne , so that right there is political jon 100% hate he did that and became danys whipping boy because that is not the jon from previous seasons .
I just think jon had a strategy with her beginning S7 needing her help for the WW battle keeping her by his side , sleeping with her keeping her happy observing her how she acted with her crew and got over his head once WW war ended and then the rejection started , dany wouldn't threaten jon personally but would threaten sansa/his family. she burns varys and blames sansa that is not a sane person ,i think the more jon tried to break away the more the fear grew by the end he saw her for what she really was a tyrant jon never wanted to kill a woman and gave tyrion every excuse in the book and tried to excuse her actions not to do it , he gave dany many chances before he killed her and she just confirmed everything tyrion told him she would do . Burn , kill with no chance for justice.shes dead and he paid a heavy price .
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 0:24:53 GMT
They explicitly show Tyrion talking Jon into murdering her and his logic is very clearly explained; Dany is now using wholesale slaughter of civilian populations as a tactic, and is telling her army that she fully intends to conquer the entire world this way, exterminating anybody who stands in her way. She's become every bit as bad if not worse than the system she's trying to break, and Jon can't stomach it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 23, 2019 0:38:05 GMT
There’s probably more than one reason except the one the OP posted.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 23, 2019 15:46:49 GMT
There’s probably more than one reason except the one the OP posted. oh really? please share your reasons , what i posted is exactly what the other poster agreed with and what i have been saying all along dany ended up worse than her mad father, and news now coming out emilia asked for script changes to humanize her death makes me wonder how much worse her character was .
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 24, 2019 14:39:50 GMT
Towards the end, her inability to forgive, to compromise, to find a better way than killing, had made her intolerable. She had convinced herself that the best way to deal with things was murder.
One could make an argument that some of the executions were warranted. Even Varys. After all, he did betray her. But it was obvious she had gotten out of control. And it was obvious that Jon wasn't liking what he was seeing.
She was even giving him ultimatums! They had different definitions of what "good" was. They grew apart.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 26, 2019 20:13:46 GMT
IMO they were always apart ,jon needed her help, her dragons ,what sucks is he did all that for nothing and in the end a stark killed the NK , then got over his head being obligated to her out of fear and probably felt so much guilt his army was part of that massacre that happened in KL
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 27, 2019 6:47:53 GMT
IMO they were always apart ,jon needed her help, her dragons ,what sucks is he did all that for nothing and in the end a stark killed the NK , then got over his head being obligated to her out of fear and probably felt so much guilt his army was part of that massacre that happened in KL And yet, he brought the "love is the death of duty" quote. Yes, I know any chance at bringing back a line from Season 1 is good enough to the writers, but Jon is made to bring up love as part of his conflict. This is not S2 Jaime telling Cat about conflicting oath to kings and innocents. If fear were all he felt, then he wouldn't have that pained look on his face when killing her. If guilt drove him, it would make him fierce and resolute, not that wavering mess who cannot ever really know what he wants. I suppose the writing wants Jon to be in love but cannot make it believable.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 28, 2019 19:57:52 GMT
IMO they were always apart ,jon needed her help, her dragons ,what sucks is he did all that for nothing and in the end a stark killed the NK , then got over his head being obligated to her out of fear and probably felt so much guilt his army was part of that massacre that happened in KL And yet, he brought the "love is the death of duty" quote. Yes, I know any chance at bringing back a line from Season 1 is good enough to the writers, but Jon is made to bring up love as part of his conflict. This is not S2 Jaime telling Cat about conflicting oath to kings and innocents. If fear were all he felt, then he wouldn't have that pained look on his face when killing her. If guilt drove him, it would make him fierce and resolute, not that wavering mess who cannot ever really know what he wants. I suppose the writing wants Jon to be in love but cannot make it believable. they failed bigtime this was no love story , it was more like a fearful abusive relationship and jon suffering from Stockholm syndrome. scenes filmed made the actors confused .
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Post by shadyvsesham on May 28, 2019 23:13:06 GMT
It was just a rushed loved story..
Did he love her, did he not, was he fearful of her?
IDK, but lets wrap this $hit up....
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