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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 30, 2019 9:35:08 GMT
We can change wives/husbands, jobs and religions, so why do we have to stay loyal to football clubs we started supporting as children?
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Post by MrFurious on May 30, 2019 9:49:40 GMT
There was a poster on the old board that used to be a Liverpool fan, she had all the YNWA/96 stuff going on and I thought she was a lifelong Liverpool fan, and then Torres joined Chelsea and she became a Chelsea fan WTF!!, she probably went on to support Atletico Madrid too. Her name was SenoritoTorres
Me. I followed Villa back in the early 90's for a few years when Racist Ron was challenging Utd and Souness was gutting/destroying Liverpool
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Post by Zos on May 30, 2019 9:52:50 GMT
Because it goes against the fundamental rules of the universe to which I would add you should have to support one of the three nearest League sides to you geographically with the possible exception of supporting your dad's team if rule 1 applied to his support of them. No exceptions are allowed and anyone disobeying them should be tattooed on the forehead with the words "glory hunter and publicly humiliated and have rotting vegetables thrown at them.
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Post by Marv on May 30, 2019 9:56:10 GMT
Cuz people are morons about sports. Many fans like to measure their dicks on how big a fan they are.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 10:17:45 GMT
Because it goes against the fundamental rules of the universe to which I would add you should have to support one of the three nearest League sides to you geographically with the possible exception of supporting your dad's team if rule 1 applied to his support of them. No exceptions are allowed and anyone disobeying them should be tattooed on the forehead with the words "glory hunter and publicly humiliated and have rotting vegetables thrown at them. I'm ok then, phew. Three nearest league sides... Bristol City, Bristol Rovers, and Forest Green Rovers. Had to check if Newport was closer than FGR... It's 5 miles further. Narrow escape there 😉 And I should get bonus kudos for having supported FGR since they were floundering around in non-league 👍
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 30, 2019 10:22:55 GMT
I gave up supporting Liverpool around the time of Heysel.
Started following Arsenal a few years later.
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Post by staggerstag on May 30, 2019 11:14:01 GMT
There was a poster on the old board that used to be a Liverpool fan, she had all the YNWA stuff going on and I thought she was a lifelong Liverpool fan, and then Torres joined Chelsea and she became a Chelsea fan WTF!!, she probably went on to support Atletico Madrid too. Her name was SenoritoTorres Yeah, I remember her. Her real name was Michelle. She always drew a good slagging from other posters for changing up from Liverpool to CFC. Her tag line till then was Remember The 96. Then her avatar changed from Torres in red to Torres in blue. When he left for Spain I don't think she ever posted again. She also reckoned she was a steward at Goodison Park wtf. She was alright, though, just had a Torres fixation.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 30, 2019 11:27:21 GMT
There was a poster on the old board that used to be a Liverpool fan, she had all the YNWA stuff going on and I thought she was a lifelong Liverpool fan, and then Torres joined Chelsea and she became a Chelsea fan WTF!!, she probably went on to support Atletico Madrid too. Her name was SenoritoTorres Yeah, I remember her. Her real name was Michelle. She always drew a good slagging from other posters for changing up from Liverpool to CFC. Her tag line till then was Remember The 96. Then her avatar changed from Torres in red to Torres in blue. When he left for Spain I don't think she ever posted again. She also reckoned she was a steward at Goodison Park wtf. She was alright, though, just had a Torres fixation. Yeah, I regret being a bit cruel to her.
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Post by Zos on May 30, 2019 12:06:09 GMT
Because it goes against the fundamental rules of the universe to which I would add you should have to support one of the three nearest League sides to you geographically with the possible exception of supporting your dad's team if rule 1 applied to his support of them. No exceptions are allowed and anyone disobeying them should be tattooed on the forehead with the words "glory hunter and publicly humiliated and have rotting vegetables thrown at them. I'm ok then, phew. Three nearest league sides... Bristol City, Bristol Rovers, and Forest Green Rovers. Had to check if Newport was closer than FGR... It's 5 miles further. Narrow escape there 😉 And I should get bonus kudos for having supported FGR since they were floundering around in non-league 👍 Yes, you would have been excempt under my Non League support rule where anyone should be lauded for doing their bit for grass roots footie.
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Post by WullieFort on May 30, 2019 12:09:35 GMT
I live in Canterbury in the South-East of England. My drinking buddies who are all MEn of Kent (Locally born) support Spuds, ManCity, ManUtd, Arsenal. Nearest clubs are probably Gillingham(only EFL club in Kent) who play in League 1, Millwall who play in the Championship and West Ham. Nobody I know supports any of those three.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 30, 2019 12:31:15 GMT
I guess it depends on the reason you change teams. If the team owner is an idiot or the team just keeps bringing in assholes (as in criminals, guys who don't give 100%, etc.) year after year, I can see giving up on them. If you genuinely don't enjoy the people in an organization, why would you root for them to succeed? Otherwise, why would you switch? Kids like whoever is popular, usually the team that just won. When adults do this, it's just embarrassing. Certainly you can respect a team that plays well, but to literally change your colors every time a team gets hot? Makes it look like you're getting your sense of self-worth from your sports team (which can also happen if you support the same winning team, but that's a separate topic).
But sticking with a team through the tough times makes the winning that much sweeter. As a New England sports fan, I know this firsthand. I remember when the Red Sox almost broke me. It wasn't even 2003. It was going down 0-3 in the 2004 ALCS. I watched game three in its entirety. 19-8. I remember turning off the tv in a daze. Just weeks earlier, I had a brief conversation about baseball with my sister (not a sports fan). She asked me why I was a Red Sox fan because, "They always lose." I told her you don't give up on a team because they lose. Fast forward to my post-game 3 stupor. I wasn't angry, just disillusioned. I felt hollow as a fan. Why did I keep doing this to myself? What was the point? Then I remembered that conversation with my sister and said fuck it, this is why I root for that team. You go through the bullshit like this to make it to the other side. The Patriots had done it, and so can the Red Sox. And the rest is history.
I can't imagine what my sporting life would be like if I just gave up and starting rooting for the Yankees or whoever. These are my teams (New England teams) to the end, whatever may come. I'm a sports fan, so I have levels of appreciation for other teams (nothing wrong with having tiers of fandom in my opinion-- your team gets eliminated so you start rooting for team X), but nothing like those for my home teams. You don't want your fandom to become too much of your identity as a person, but the way you go about your fandom defines you, at least in part.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 30, 2019 13:36:21 GMT
I've changed fandom in 2.5 of the 4 major American sports:
MLB: Grew up a Dodgers fan after the 1978 World Series. This is the half - - I'm just as much a Padres fan as Dodgers fan now.
NBA: Grew up a Lakers fan after the 1980 finals - - now I'm a Kings fan.
NHL: Grew up a Flyers fan in the early 1980s - - now I'm a Penguins fan (but Flyers are my second favorite team).
In all three, I'm not nearly the fan I used to be. Football, which was always my true love, blotted out the rest of them after the strike/Piazza trade, the monotony of the Bulls championships, and the NHL being dumped by ESPN and not being able to see the games. I moved to San Diego (baseball), had a player from my hometown and college drafted (basketball), and a variety of small things (hockey) change my fandom.
If I start changing from the Steelers or Penn State, though, I am getting full-blown dementia.
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Post by Zos on May 30, 2019 15:00:54 GMT
I live in Canterbury in the South-East of England. My drinking buddies who are all MEn of Kent (Locally born) support Spuds, ManCity, ManUtd, Arsenal. Nearest clubs are probably Gillingham(only EFL club in Kent) who play in League 1, Millwall who play in the Championship and West Ham. Nobody I know supports any of those three. Well, if they are not supporting Millwall then logic alone suggests they are suffering from a form of mental illness and should be institutionalised immediately for the good of society. Skipping Gillingham though, is the right decision.
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 30, 2019 15:11:42 GMT
In the mid-90s, I forget what the Mets had done to piss me off, but I had sworn off them and even tried to become a Yankees fan. It was before the Yankee dynasty had started so it wasn't a bandwagon thing, I just needed a new team to root for. It never felt right. I think I lasted 2 months maybe before relapsing and I've been fucked off the wagon ever since.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 30, 2019 16:12:37 GMT
Sports is life, especially if you grow up in a Big 4 city in the US. Philadelphia teams, with a few random exceptions, have sucked more than they’ve been good during my lifetime, but the thought of dropping them FOR ANOTHER TEAM is absurd to me. True, I barely follow the Flyers now, but I’ll never start rooting for, say, the Penguins or Capitals. I mean, I’m pulling for the Blues, but that’s also partly for my dislike of Boston teams. I’m not about to go out and get a Brett Hull jersey. If you were raised in and live in Dubuque, Iowa, you’re a free agent. Root for whatever team you like. But if you’re from Philly or New York or Boston or Chicago etc. then you’d better root for one of those teams. If you don’t then you are a pussy Cowboys fan.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 30, 2019 17:01:46 GMT
Sports is life, especially if you grow up in a Big 4 city in the US. Philadelphia teams, with a few random exceptions, have sucked more than they’ve been good during my lifetime, but the thought of dropping them FOR ANOTHER TEAM is absurd to me. True, I barely follow the Flyers now, but I’ll never start rooting for, say, the Penguins or Capitals. I mean, I’m pulling for the Blues, but that’s also partly for my dislike of Boston teams. I’m not about to go out and get a Brett Hull jersey. If you were raised in and live in Dubuque, Iowa, you’re a free agent. Root for whatever team you like. But if you’re from Philly or New York or Boston or Chicago etc. then you’d better root for one of those teams. If you don’t then you are a pussy Cowboys fan. I am from Europe.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 30, 2019 17:04:37 GMT
Sports is life, especially if you grow up in a Big 4 city in the US. Philadelphia teams, with a few random exceptions, have sucked more than they’ve been good during my lifetime, but the thought of dropping them FOR ANOTHER TEAM is absurd to me. True, I barely follow the Flyers now, but I’ll never start rooting for, say, the Penguins or Capitals. I mean, I’m pulling for the Blues, but that’s also partly for my dislike of Boston teams. I’m not about to go out and get a Brett Hull jersey. If you were raised in and live in Dubuque, Iowa, you’re a free agent. Root for whatever team you like. But if you’re from Philly or New York or Boston or Chicago etc. then you’d better root for one of those teams. If you don’t then you are a pussy Cowboys fan. I am from Europe. Ok, well, there are like 8 billion different soccer teams, dunno how you keep them all straight anyway. That being said, I’m sure you live in or near the town of at least one of them, so that is who you should be rooting for.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 30, 2019 20:51:43 GMT
I do believe you should support your local teams, especially if you live in a smaller market. I'd never abandon the Bills or the Sabres, although both have given me good reason to do so. If I was a Bills fan from Idaho who jumped on the bandwagon in the Super Bowl days, I wouldn't have a problem with abandoning ship. But I would think them to be a fair weather fan. But I do have problem with bandwagon jumpers. Anyone can root for the champs. I've seen Alabama shirts and hats here and now am beginning to see Clemson hats and shirts. In the 90's, Miami Hurricanes and Florida State shirts were everywhere. Don't see them too much anymore.
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Post by xystophoros on May 30, 2019 20:59:27 GMT
I say this all the time to my cousin who is a Mets fan.
Like how long are you gonna be miserable supporting the same shitty team with ownership that won't do anything to improve the club? OMG they acquired Todd Frazier and a 35-year-old Robinson Cano in the offseason! Look out!
Fuck that.
I don't sit at home watching the shitty D-League Knicks, I watch good teams play team basketball. Why put yourself through that?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 30, 2019 23:00:13 GMT
I do believe you should support your local teams, especially if you live in a smaller market. I'd never abandon the Bills or the Sabres, although both have given me good reason to do so. If I was a Bills fan from Idaho who jumped on the bandwagon in the Super Bowl days, I wouldn't have a problem with abandoning ship. But I would think them to be a fair weather fan. But I do have problem with bandwagon jumpers. Anyone can root for the champs. I've seen Alabama shirts and hats here and now am beginning to see Clemson hats and shirts. In the 90's, Miami Hurricanes and Florida State shirts were everywhere. Don't see them too much anymore. I have never supported my local team.
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