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Post by gameboy on Jun 4, 2019 2:30:34 GMT
No, it tells us that most people don't go on record. If you know anything statistics you'd be aware of sample polling, where a small sample group can represent the general population. Yeah but to be fair, this is not sample polling, this is simply those people who felt strongly enough to complain, its not really comparable to a poll. Of course it's not a scientific sample. But the squeaky wheel gets attention first. The fact that more chose to complain about it tells us something. Otherwise, trash the whole list.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 4, 2019 3:43:33 GMT
I find it absurd, that each country have their own institutions and notions of what a film should be rated, when it is the same damn film. In some countries, say like the US, OZ and NZ, VENOM is un-restricted, but the UK feels that under 15's can't see it at all. Are children more sensitive in the UK?
Ireland may allow a film to be seen with parental\adult guidance, but go to Northern Ireland, and it may be rated for no-one under a certain age to see it. As the Irish would say...Its a load of fookin' shite.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 4, 2019 3:45:11 GMT
Yeah but to be fair, this is not sample polling, this is simply those people who felt strongly enough to complain, its not really comparable to a poll. Of course it's not a scientific sample. But the squeaky wheel gets attention first. The fact that more chose to complain about it tells us something. Otherwise, trash the whole list. Well, we know that homophobia is still rampant regardless of how tolerant the hets will tell us they are.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 4, 2019 9:07:30 GMT
Don’t be touchy, I’m just adding some more generalisations. It's a generalization to say the Koran was influenced by the Bible?  I was joining in with the blanket condemnation. If the Bible was mainly written by Jews (Paul was also Jewish) and the Bible is to blame for Western culture being homophobic then we have to blame the Jews.
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Post by gameboy on Jun 4, 2019 15:12:15 GMT
It's a generalization to say the Koran was influenced by the Bible? I was joining in with the blanket condemnation. If the Bible was mainly written by Jews (Paul was also Jewish) and the Bible is to blame for Western culture being homophobic then we have to blame the Jews. You're the one who started with a blanket condemnation of ethnic Jews. I'm talking about religion. Paul was Christian. And the main religion in the West is Christianity. What are you on about now?
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 4, 2019 15:17:19 GMT
I was joining in with the blanket condemnation. If the Bible was mainly written by Jews (Paul was also Jewish) and the Bible is to blame for Western culture being homophobic then we have to blame the Jews. You're the one who started with a blanket condemnation of ethnic Jews. I'm talking about religion. Paul was Christian. And the main religion in the West is Christianity. What are you on about now? I'm desperately trying to find people to blame for these 18 complaints. If it's because of Western heterosexuals then we must find out where this vile hatred which produced 18 complaints originated from.
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Post by gameboy on Jun 4, 2019 15:28:01 GMT
You're the one who started with a blanket condemnation of ethnic Jews. I'm talking about religion. Paul was Christian. And the main religion in the West is Christianity. What are you on about now? I'm desperately trying to find people to blame for these 18 complaints. If it's because of Western heterosexuals then we must find out where this vile hatred which produced 18 complaints originated from. I'm addressing one issue, heterosexism in Western society. Stop trying to change the subject to Jews or anything else and address my point about religion and homophobia.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 4, 2019 15:42:49 GMT
I'm desperately trying to find people to blame for these 18 complaints. If it's because of Western heterosexuals then we must find out where this vile hatred which produced 18 complaints originated from. I'm addressing one issue, heterosexism in Western society. Stop trying to change the subject to Jews or anything else and address my point about religion and homophobia. I'm just pointing out where that religion came from. 
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 4, 2019 15:44:18 GMT
I find it absurd, that each country have their own institutions and notions of what a film should be rated, when it is the same damn film. In some countries, say like the US, OZ and NZ, VENOM is un-restricted, but the UK feels that under 15's can't see it at all. Are children more sensitive in the UK? Ireland may allow a film to be seen with parental\adult guidance, but go to Northern Ireland, and it may be rated for no-one under a certain age to see it. As the Irish would say...Its a load of fookin' shite. Jesus Crikey, the way this is going different countries will start having different laws next.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2019 1:22:45 GMT
I find it absurd, that each country have their own institutions and notions of what a film should be rated, when it is the same damn film. In some countries, say like the US, OZ and NZ, VENOM is un-restricted, but the UK feels that under 15's can't see it at all. Are children more sensitive in the UK? Ireland may allow a film to be seen with parental\adult guidance, but go to Northern Ireland, and it may be rated for no-one under a certain age to see it. As the Irish would say...Its a load of fookin' shite. Jesus Crikey, the way this is going different countries will start having different laws next.
So why are there different laws? Do you just accept what you are told, without looker deeper into the absurd conundrum called establishment control?
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 5, 2019 1:27:14 GMT
Jesus Crikey, the way this is going different countries will start having different laws next.
So why are there different laws? Do you just accept what you are told, without looker deeper into the absurd conundrum called establishment control? Yes, let’s all sit down, have a big think and hopefully things turn out the way they should.
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Post by gadreel on Jun 5, 2019 1:28:44 GMT
Yeah but to be fair, this is not sample polling, this is simply those people who felt strongly enough to complain, its not really comparable to a poll. Of course it's not a scientific sample. But the squeaky wheel gets attention first. The fact that more chose to complain about it tells us something. Otherwise, trash the whole list. Yeah that fact that people make such a complaint indicates that actually far more people were upset, given that it takes effort to complain and most people wont worry, still it is a laughably small number, hell I bet they are all called Muriel and Keith.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2019 1:34:13 GMT
So why are there different laws? Do you just accept what you are told, without looker deeper into the absurd conundrum called establishment control? Yes, let’s all sit down, have a big think and hopefully things turn out the way they should. How sarcy and conceited of you stammy! Don't look deeper then if it makes life so much easier for you to keep your little head buried in the sand.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 5, 2019 1:36:06 GMT
Yes, let’s all sit down, have a big think and hopefully things turn out the way they should. How sarcy and conceited of you stammy! Don't look deeper then if it makes life so much easier for you to keep your little head buried in the sand. Oh dear, TC resorts to petty insults once again.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2019 1:53:18 GMT
How sarcy and conceited of you stammy! Don't look deeper then if it makes life so much easier for you to keep your little head buried in the sand. Oh dear, TC resorts to petty insults once again. So if you weren't being sarcastic then, what is your point? Are you one of those people that brings the shields down, when your own rigid mindset comfort zone has been usurped?
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Post by gameboy on Jun 5, 2019 4:11:26 GMT
I'm addressing one issue, heterosexism in Western society. Stop trying to change the subject to Jews or anything else and address my point about religion and homophobia. I'm just pointing out where that religion came from. Oh, so back to the anti-Semitism.  If you can stop trolling for a second, answer me this: Why has our society always condemned homosexuality? If it's not based in religion, where does it come from?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2019 4:24:37 GMT
I'm just pointing out where that religion came from. Oh, so back to the anti-Semitism. If you can stop trolling for a second, answer me this: Why has our society always condemned homosexuality? If it's not based in religion, where does it come from? Stammy has appeared a bit aloof and subtly derisive over many of these points on this thread. Not sure what his problem is here.
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Post by gameboy on Jun 5, 2019 5:09:28 GMT
Oh, so back to the anti-Semitism. If you can stop trolling for a second, answer me this: Why has our society always condemned homosexuality? If it's not based in religion, where does it come from? Stammy has appeared a bit aloof and subtly derisive over many of these points on this thread. Not sure what his problem is here. He's a snarky git.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 5, 2019 8:53:01 GMT
Oh dear, TC resorts to petty insults once again. So if you weren't being sarcastic then, what is your point? Are you one of those people that brings the shields down, when your own rigid mindset comfort zone has been usurped? Sorry for being sarcastic about your wishful thinking. I should have agreed with you and suggested that the world would be a better place if we are all nicer to each other.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 5, 2019 8:57:06 GMT
I'm just pointing out where that religion came from. Oh, so back to the anti-Semitism. If you can stop trolling for a second, answer me this: Why has our society always condemned homosexuality? If it's not based in religion, where does it come from? I don’t know where it comes from and I don’t pretend to know where it comes from. You suggested religion and specifically pointed at the Bible which originated in Israel. Now if I was really being anti-Semitic I’d start saying hateful thing about them in the same way you say hateful thing about many groups.
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