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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 3, 2019 0:37:23 GMT
FIFA prize money for the champions at this year's Women's World Cup in France: 4 Million dollars
FIFA prize money for teams eliminated at the group stage at last year's World Cup in Russia: 8 Million dollars
Obviously there can be no talk of parity while the men's tournament generates revenue that is several orders of magnitude bigger than that generated by the women's world cup, but still, that difference seems excessive.
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Post by staggerstag on Jun 3, 2019 10:31:26 GMT
The 2015 tournament was a great watch (as was the 2014 U20) Canada did a good job in hosting despite all the artificial pitches. USA received $2m for winning it in 2015 which represented not even 6% of Germany's purse for lifting the men's trophy a year earlier.
It's a huge difference when you compare it to men's and women's takings for, say, winning the Wimbledon Singles Trophy or whatever it's called where last year the prize purse was £2.25m for both the male and female singles champions.
But it'll take time in football. Everyone's excited, everyone's pushing women's football now, it's the done thing. But the players are a long way off from equal pay to the men or anything close to it. I'm not interested in this year's tournament; because I'm expected to enjoy it, almost obliged to. There was a lot less hoo har in the build up to 2015 and I enjoyed it. This time round I've got female journos like Suzy Wrack almost stuffing it down my throat till I am sick of it.
I may watch the odd game featuring Japan, Nigeria (for Oshoala who can move like a gazelle and should pot a few) France (where is Claire Lavogez?)Germany (Dabritz excites me) USA, England, Australia and Sweden because they're the sides that have entertained me in the past.
Good luck to them all, though, and, yes, they should be earning more in my eyes.
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Post by Pangolin on Jun 3, 2019 13:30:28 GMT
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 3, 2019 15:59:00 GMT
The 2015 tournament was a great watch (as was the 2014 U20) Canada did a good job in hosting despite all the artificial pitches. USA received $2m for winning it in 2015 which represented not even 6% of Germany's purse for lifting the men's trophy a year earlier. It's a huge difference when you compare it to men's and women's takings for, say, winning the Wimbledon Singles Trophy or whatever it's called where last year the prize purse was £2.25m for both the male and female singles champions. But it'll take time in football. Everyone's excited, everyone's pushing women's football now, it's the done thing. But the players are a long way off from equal pay to the men or anything close to it. I'm not interested in this year's tournament; because I'm expected to enjoy it, almost obliged to. There was a lot less hoo har in the build up to 2015 and I enjoyed it. This time round I've got female journos like Suzy Wrack almost stuffing it down my throat till I am sick of it. I may watch the odd game featuring Japan, Nigeria (for Oshoala who can move like a gazelle and should pot a few) France (where is Claire Lavogez?)Germany (Dabritz excites me) USA, England, Australia and Sweden because they're the sides that have entertained me in the past. Good luck to them all, though, and, yes, they should be earning more in my eyes. I actually went to two of the group stage matches in the last women's World Cup - it was just a subway ride for me, and tickets were neither expensive nor hard to obtain (which was definitely not the case the year before in Brazil). Other than those two matches I watched live, I remember watching on TV and enjoying the gold medal game from London 2012 and the 2015 final. This time around I will try to catch a few more games, but with the time difference, the only ones I will be able to watch will be the ones on weekends. |
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Post by staggerstag on Jun 3, 2019 16:11:42 GMT
I actually went to two of the group stage matches in the last women's World Cup - it was just a subway ride for me, and tickets were neither expensive nor hard to obtain (which was definitely not the case the year before in Brazil). Say, I distinctly remember somebody posting on the old IMDB WWC 15 thread about going to a couple of games. Sorry, but memory ain't that good, though, as to who it was. Was it you? I definitely remember a poster saying he was local to one or two of the stadiums. At any rate, hope you enjoy the games you watch. Myself, I'm gutted that Claire Lavogez is out of the France squad and that Louisa Nécib has retired. Two great French players.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 3, 2019 16:21:24 GMT
I actually went to two of the group stage matches in the last women's World Cup - it was just a subway ride for me, and tickets were neither expensive nor hard to obtain (which was definitely not the case the year before in Brazil). Say, I distinctly remember somebody posting on the old IMDB WWC 15 thread about going to a couple of games. Sorry, but memory ain't that good, though, as to who it was. Was it you? I definitely remember a poster saying he was local to one or two of the stadiums. At any rate, hope you enjoy the games you watch. Myself, I'm gutted that Claire Lavogez is out of the France squad and that Louisa Nécib has retired. Two great French players. I don't remember specifically, but it is almost a certainty that I would have posted about going to those games in the old Sports board. It was actually a double-header - not something that you will ever see at the Men's World Cup! |
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Post by staggerstag on Jun 3, 2019 16:32:29 GMT
I don't remember specifically, but it is almost a certainty that I would have posted about going to those games in the old Sports board. It was actually a double-header - not something that you will ever see at the Men's World Cup! Ah yes, the double-headers! 2 matches on the one ticket in the same stadium on the same day. Good stuff. It's all coming back to me.
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Post by Rufus-T on Jun 3, 2019 23:10:25 GMT
Only 2x? The men are underpaid.
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Post by staggerstag on Jun 4, 2019 11:36:46 GMT
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 4, 2019 12:40:15 GMT
I am really not sure that asking for equality outright is the right strategy to win over the support of the average member of the public - not when anyone who's ever even glanced at a football match on TV knows perfectly well that the men's World Cup generates much more revenue for FIFA than the women's edition. |
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Post by staggerstag on Jun 4, 2019 13:01:44 GMT
I am really not sure that asking for equality outright is the right strategy to win over the support of the average member of the public - not when anyone who's ever even glanced at a football match on TV knows perfectly well that the men's World Cup generates much more revenue for FIFA than the women's edition. I somewhat agree, although it isn't all just about money. Alex Morgan and US women players have an ongoing gender-discrimination federal lawsuit filed against the US Soccer Federation, accusing the USSC of paying “only lip service to gender equality.” But Morgan, whose name tops the list on the lawsuit, says “We have to do more in general–we have to be the athlete, we have to be the role model, we have to lead the way for the next generation,” Morgan says. “Are male athletes doing that? Are they thinking about anyone other than themselves? I don’t know. We do have more than one job within this role, and are getting paid much less.” What the hell am I supposed to make of all that?
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Post by bluerisk on Jun 4, 2019 14:31:12 GMT
FIFA prize money for the champions at this year's Women's World Cup in France: 4 Million dollars FIFA prize money for teams eliminated at the group stage at last year's World Cup in Russia: 8 Million dollars Obviously there can be no talk of parity while the men's tournament generates revenue that is several orders of magnitude bigger than that generated by the women's world cup, but still, that difference seems excessive. The difference in the generated revenue is even way, way bigger.
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