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Post by moviemouth on Jun 4, 2019 16:27:13 GMT
moviemouth Yeah, that's also fine here to as even if a movie achieves whatever it's trying to achieve (as I have seen some claim this sort of thing in relation to movies over the years), it can still be boring to the viewer and I can't fault that viewer simply because movies ultimately boil down to ones emotional response/feeling towards a movie and boring is basically the opposite of interesting/entertaining. but just like how the level of interesting/entertaining vary (basically my 6-10/10), so does the low end of the spectrum(1-5/10(well sort of more 1-4/10 as 5/10 is basically average for me which is not bad but ultimately more of a negative score)) to. so it's not like I would immediately call something 'interesting', great. then on the other end of that equation I would not immediately call something 'uninteresting', boring. since boring represents that more bottom area of movies in general where as say 'great' (or similar words) would represent more of that upper echelon of movies. Agreed. I can see why you said that as I would say that applies to me to some degree to as even movies I rate 'below average', since they tend to be generally dull/uninteresting (and thereabouts), I guess one could say that is some form of 'boredom', but it's just not that full blown ZERO interest level of boredom yet. so I am not as quick to label something 'boring' til it reaches that point it's totally boring and I can't finish it. then at which point I call it outright boring. basically it gives more value to the word boring when someone does not overuse it, which is why I tend to do things like this.
Sure, but what I said above needs to be said pretty much to get my point across. so I can't just say a few words and stop. some people have attention span issues if they can't at least read some of what I said even though I realize I typed a novel in my initial post and I realize some won't read it all because of that.
I basically agree with all of that and I appreciate you keeping your reply relatively short and to the point. My problem with the OP is he is making a baseless assumption.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 4, 2019 16:41:59 GMT
Boredom is as subjective as not liking something.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 4, 2019 16:43:06 GMT
Boredom is as subjective as not liking something. Bingo.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 4, 2019 16:47:58 GMT
moviemouth Thanks. because I figured if you dissed what I said there, there was not much else I could do and if someone had trouble reading that, they have attention span issues (or lose interest really easily and tune out etc(which is pretty much a attention span problem)). p.s. hell, I probably have a attention span issue to some degree myself as if someone is saying quite a bit to me in person for example... I probably am going to miss a good portion of what they say especially if it's something I am not already fairly familiar with etc. it's nothing against them, it's just what my mind does (like I would not be surprised if I am average at best in this regard as it seems like some people can say quite a bit to another person and they immediately pick it up). like I can't help it. sure, there could be occasions if they are talking about something I don't find that interesting, it's that much more likely ill tune out. but even if it's something I need to know if it's not something easy to pick up ill have to go on about it a bit etc. I am sure you get the gist  ; I guess I could say I tend to learn better more visually than through hearing. because even with text on a screen, if I don't get something initially I can always re-read it to pound it into my head. blah blah blah, ill stop so it don't start approaching novel status on you. but I just figured I would mention that in the "p.s." section Personally I think he's onto something based on my interpretation of it from his initial post. like I mentioned in my initial post, ill try to keep this somewhat shorter... it seems some are quick to label a movie 'boring' even if it's only somewhat uninteresting or dull (and the like wording) to them. like instead of having something like.... 5/10 = average 4/10 = below average 3/10 = bad 2/10 = boring (1/10 = greatly dislike) ...they seem to go from about average to boring with no in-between. which devalues the word 'boring' in general since it seems to be a bit to commonly used (this assumes my assumption is accurate in that they are people who go from 'average' to 'boring' without any real inbetween stuff etc). that's basically what we got a issue with.
p.s. like I realize, based on what you previously said, that even say a 4/10 it could be technically boring to some degree (since if ones interest wains below a certain point, then boring starts to set in). but, like I was saying, it's not at that full blown outright boring status yet. so I tend to be not as quick to label something boring.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 4, 2019 16:59:37 GMT
moviemouth Thanks. because I figured if you dissed what I said there, there was not much else I could do and if someone had trouble reading that, they have attention span issues (or lose interest really easily and tune out etc). p.s. hell, I probably have a attention span issue to some degree myself as if someone is saying quite a bit to me in person for example... I probably am going to miss a good portion of what they say especially if it's something I am not already fairly familiar with etc. it's nothing against them, it's just what my mind does (like I would not be surprised if I am average at best in this regard as it seems like some people can say quite a bit to another person and they immediately pick it up). like I can't help it. sure, there could be occasions if they are talking about something I don't find that interesting, it's that much more likely ill tune out. but even if it's something I need to know if it's not something easy to pick up ill have to go on about it a bit etc. I am sure you get the gist ; I guess I could say tend to learn better more visually than through hearing. because even with text on a screen, if I don't get something initially I can always re-read it to pound it into my head. blah blah blah, ill stop so it don't start approaching novel status on you. but I just figured I would mention that in the "p.s." section Personally I think he's onto something based on my interpretation of it from his initial post. like I mentioned in my initial post, ill try to keep this somewhat shorter... it seems some are quick to label a movie 'boring' even if it's only somewhat uninteresting or dull (and the like wording) to them. like instead of having something like.... 5/10 = average 4/10 = below average 3/10 = bad 2/10 = boring (1/10 = greatly dislike) ...they seem to go from about average to boring with no in-between. which devalues the word 'boring' in general since it seems to be a bit to commonly used (this assumes my assumption is accurate in that they are people who go from 'average' to 'boring' without any real inbetween stuff etc). that's basically what we got a issue with. There are movies I rate 5.5/10 that I consider boring. They just aren't mind-numbingly boring. Like I said, there are levels to consider. That still qualifies as boring. OP didn't say the critics said Ninja Assassin was the most boring movie ever made. Relatively boring is still boring. You are splitting hairs. I know what boredom feels like, so it feels like you telling me what I consider boring and not boring. If I tell you that I think some movies I rate 5/10 are boring, than you just have to take my word on it.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 4, 2019 17:24:44 GMT
moviemouthIf your looking at the overall movie and you truly consider it boring but are still scoring it a 5/10 (which is middle-of-the-road/average for those using the rating scale fairly evenly) then you got a flawed rating system (no offense, but it would be hard to argue against me here). I think that's especially true if you agree with me in that interesting/entertaining is what a movie should be and that boring is pretty much the opposite of that. but if you disagree with me here, we would not be on the same page on a very basic core point with movies in general. NOTE: I could understand if you find bits and pieces potentially boring in say a average (5/10) level movie but at this point I would not really consider those movies to be boring OVERALL. hence, I would not label a movie as boring I score a 5/10 as that's simply too high of a score for something where the word 'boring' left a strong impression on you in regards to the overall movie. so I guess my core point is... when I use the word 'boring' in relation to a movie I tend to refer to the overall movie is outright boring, not just partially or partially dull and the like. if you disagree on this core point that puts us at disagreement with the word 'boring' in general even though I could not fault someone for potentially using the boring word to some degree if a movie is going into that below average/dull status etc. I disagree because splitting hairs is nitpicking more in that very fine detail of which I am NOT doing. hence, I am not 'splitting hairs'. I am simply using the rating scale more properly is all and I look at the overall movie as I am not going to call a movie 'boring' that was 'average' overall. it just don't make much sense. because say you see 'Movie A' and your overall impression of it is 'boring' but yet you score it a 5/10. that makes no sense in my mind since a 5/10 is basically a average score for the overall movie and anything truly boring, as in your interest in it is pretty much zero for any length of time, should have much lower score than that. I don't doubt that you know what boredom feels like. it's just when you label a movie as boring overall, a 5/10 should not happen otherwise your rating system is flawed since 5/10 tells those who see your score of the movie that the movie was pretty average OVERALL. hence, no where near truly boring. surely, you can see why I say this, right?
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 4, 2019 17:31:12 GMT
moviemouth If your looking at the overall movie and you truly consider it boring but are still scoring it a 5/10 (which is middle-of-the-road/average for those using the rating scale fairly evenly) then you got a flawed rating system (no offense, but it would be hard to argue against me here). I think that's especially true if you agree with me in that interesting/entertaining is what a movie should be and that boring is pretty much the opposite of that. but if you disagree with me here, we would not be on the same page on a very basic core point with movies in general. NOTE: I could understand if you find bits and pieces potentially boring in say a average (5/10) level movie but at this point I would not really consider those movies to be boring OVERALL. hence, I would not label a movie as boring I score a 5/10 as that's simply too high of a score for something where the word 'boring' left a strong impression on you in regards to the overall movie. so I guess my core point is... when I use the word 'boring' in relation to a movie I tend to refer to the overall movie is outright boring, not just partially or partially dull and the like. if you disagree on this core point that puts us at disagreement with the word 'boring' in general even though I could not fault someone for potentially using the boring word to some degree if a movie is going into that below average/dull status etc. I disagree because splitting hairs is nitpicking more in that very fine detail of which I am NOT doing. hence, I am not 'splitting hairs'. I am simply using the rating scale more properly is all and I look at the overall movie as I am not going to call a movie 'boring' that was 'average' overall. it just don't make much sense. because say you see 'Movie A' and your overall impression of it is 'boring' but yet you score it a 5/10. that makes no sense in my mind since a 5/10 is basically a average score for the overall movie and anything truly boring, as in your interest in it is pretty much zero for any length of time, should have much lower score than that. I don't doubt that you know what boredom feels like. it's just when you label a movie as boring overall, a 5/10 should not happen otherwise your rating system is flawed since 5/10 tells those who see your score of the movie that the movie was pretty average OVERALL. hence, no where near truly boring. surely, you can see why I say this, right? Think whatever you want. I disagree with most of what you said this time, but if i keep responding than this is just going to go in endless circles. I will not be responding again or even looking at your reply. Take that however you want.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 4, 2019 17:43:04 GMT
moviemouth I doubt you can because I just gave a specific reasons why I think yours is flawed. I doubt you can give specifics on why mine is flawed like I just did with your '5/10 boring' thing. hence, mine is not flawed until you can make a good point otherwise and I don't think you should even attempt to claim mine is flawed unless you can give a decent reason why it is. But how do you use the 1-5/10 rating scale if even slightly boring/dull/uninteresting is truly boring for you? ; because based on what your saying here you almost sound like one of those people who don't have much variance between average and boring and that's what I think the OP and I have issue with and is basically the point of this topic in the first place. or let me say this... do you consider boring to be pretty much the worst crime a movie can commit? ; if that's a 'yes', then I would likely use other words for when movie start to fall below average and get a bit dull etc. because surely you must agree with me in that if something falls below average it's not outright boring, correct? ; what I am saying here is it helps distinguish between the weaker score ranges like the 1-4/10 etc. I am sure you get the gist of it so assuming you agree there... it seems things are a bit flawed on your side of things in relation to you judging the overall movie and scoring it according to your overall thoughts/feelings on a movie. because when I rate a movie it gives those seeing what I scored it a very good indication of what I think about the movie overall.
Which basically tells me you got no legitimate comeback to what I said above. hence, what I said is a pretty good point in why I think your 5/10 score in relation to boring is flawed.
It won't go in endless circles unless you disagree with me on a very core point....
basically what's paramount in the overall movie is how well it interests/entertains the viewer and boring is pretty much the opposite of that. so if you agree here, which I don't see how you won't agree with that, then using the word 'boring' on a movie you score a 5/10 is flawed since a 5/10 score tells another person you thought the overall movie was average, NOT boring. so if you truly do feel a movie is boring, it should reflect in your rating for a movie. hence, more in the 2/10 range or so, not a 5/10.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 5, 2019 2:22:14 GMT
Films we don't enjoy or can't get into often seem boring. It's largely subjective, but to the critic in question the film being castigated does indeed induce boredom. That isn't to say that others are going to agree. As with anything - food, movies, music - the nature of the emotional reaction generated by the stimulus is going to vary from individual to individual.
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; I guess I could say I tend to learn better more visually than through hearing. because even with text on a screen, if I don't get something initially I can always re-read it to pound it into my head.
