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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 4, 2019 20:35:48 GMT
Then what is your evidence? Be specific. It would be dismissed outright, so why even say it?
Like I said, everybody has a different burden of proof and, as we've seen in courts, proof can be excused and dismissed easily by those who don't want to accept it.
In other words, you’ve no clue why you believe in God. You just always have and don’t dare question it.
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jun 4, 2019 20:40:48 GMT
If God wanted everyone to believe he would make us all believe. We could still have free will, etc. But for some inexplicable reason He only gives the gift of belief to people who happen to be indoctrinated into a religion from birth.
So if you want to try to prove God exists you're probably going to fail. But if God wants to prove He exists all He has to do is flick that switch in my head that will make me believe. Or roll back time and indoctrinate me from birth.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 4, 2019 20:51:55 GMT
The quinque viae (Latin "Five Ways") , sometimes called "proofs", are five famous arguments regarding the logical necessity of 'that which we call God' by Catholic philosopher and theologian St. Thomas Aquinas in his 13th century book Summa Theologica. Apart from being the gold standard for positive arguments for a Cause, one thing they showed was that, for some thinkers at least, logical proof can be demonstrated in such a vexed area without evidence other than the conclusions of close reasoning. For the rest of us sufficient proof for the existence of any deliberate uncaused Cause often depends on how (or low) one sets the bar, and whether one demands that any alleged proof needs verification.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 4, 2019 20:54:13 GMT
If God wanted everyone to believe he would make us all believe. We could still have free will, etc. But for some inexplicable reason He only gives the gift of belief to people who happen to be indoctrinated into a religion from birth. So if you want to try to prove God exists you're probably going to fail. But if God wants to prove He exists all He has to do is flick that switch in my head that will make me believe. Or roll back time and indoctrinate me from birth. ...or maybe even just show up every once in a while to do a card trick or something...  
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 4, 2019 21:14:19 GMT
Vegas
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Post by heeeeey on Jun 4, 2019 21:47:07 GMT
It would be dismissed outright, so why even say it?
Like I said, everybody has a different burden of proof and, as we've seen in courts, proof can be excused and dismissed easily by those who don't want to accept it.
In other words, you’ve no clue why you believe in God. You just always have and don’t dare question it. Wrong.
And I'm not religious.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 4, 2019 23:30:13 GMT
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Post by GoodbyePorkPieHat on Jun 5, 2019 0:26:44 GMT
Why did you post this topic here and not on the RFS board where it should be? Already explained... I've never posted on this board. And yet, here I am, talking about my banana.
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Post by gameboy on Jun 5, 2019 4:21:11 GMT
If I had any proof....  I dunno about god, dude. But that definitely proves there is a Satan. 
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Jun 5, 2019 5:15:07 GMT
Congrats you've created a thread that will have no conclusion but may run for pages on end, want a cookie?
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Post by edzeppelin on Jun 5, 2019 6:26:10 GMT
How well does it fit your hand? Oh, pretty much like your typical banana. I have two of them at the moment in fact - edzep will probably tell you they're just berries though. 
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 5, 2019 9:11:35 GMT
That was a putrid thing to say to my old buddy Vegas.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 5, 2019 10:52:05 GMT
THIS IS IT! The thread to end all threads. Theists.. This is your moment to shine: Prove to the world that God exists. Starting gggggg… NOW! I believe God exists, but I couldn't prove it to a non-believer because it requires faith and can't be measured or quantified.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 5, 2019 11:58:01 GMT
Congrats you've created a thread that will have no conclusion but may run for pages on end, want a cookie? Well... Yeah. A cookie would be nice. Who would ever turn down a cookie?
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Post by edzeppelin on Jun 5, 2019 13:06:47 GMT
Tide come in. Tide goes out. Bam, checkmate atheists. I just show people my banana. 
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