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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 14:10:15 GMT
www.wbrc.com/2019/06/05/chemical-castration-bill-awaiting-governor-iveys-signature/I'm all for it "if" the following provisions are in the bill. - The victim is 13 or younger. I don't think chemical Castration is right if it's a 22 year old who slept with a 16 year or 17 year old. That's not the same as a 44 year old molesting or raping a 12 year old. - There is medical proof the child was raped. If a random 10 year old says a man 'touched' him or her, but there isn't any proof, then no. Or the pedo has at least 3 + accusors. I worked at a Prison for some time. This is absolutely the right choice for real pedos. They won't change.
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Post by someguy on Jun 5, 2019 14:20:04 GMT
The main question is do you think it would work?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 14:21:49 GMT
www.wbrc.com/2019/06/05/chemical-castration-bill-awaiting-governor-iveys-signature/I'm all for it "if" the following provisions are in the bill. - The victim is 13 or younger. I don't think chemical Castration is right if it's a 22 year old who slept with a 16 year or 17 year old. That's not the same as a 44 year old molesting or raping a 12 year old. - There is medical proof the child was raped. If a random 10 year old says a man 'touched' him or her, but there isn't any proof, then no. Or the pedo has at least 3 + accusors. I worked at a Prison for some time. This is absolutely the right choice for real pedos. They won't change. Agreed....or we could keep them locked up? AFAIC, a 44-year-old who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old has lost his place in society. If we stop locking up drug offenders in prison we'd have plenty of room to keep pedos where they belong. |
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 5, 2019 16:36:55 GMT
It appears that two of the side effects are loss of body hair and breast growth so I suppose the offender could always go fuck himself.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 5, 2019 20:49:34 GMT
Wait, so is this for even consensual cases? "Offense" is pretty vague. I'd be against it either way in case an innocent person got convicted.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2019 22:15:10 GMT
www.wbrc.com/2019/06/05/chemical-castration-bill-awaiting-governor-iveys-signature/I'm all for it "if" the following provisions are in the bill. - The victim is 13 or younger. I don't think chemical Castration is right if it's a 22 year old who slept with a 16 year or 17 year old. That's not the same as a 44 year old molesting or raping a 12 year old. - There is medical proof the child was raped. If a random 10 year old says a man 'touched' him or her, but there isn't any proof, then no. Or the pedo has at least 3 + accusors. I worked at a Prison for some time. This is absolutely the right choice for real pedos. They won't change. There are no absolutes and it is going to bring up other human rights issues too. They did this to Alan Turing, just for being homosexual, and they killed him.
A pedo is mentally ill and sick and need psychological hospital care, not a criminal establishment performing sick experiments on people, just because they don't like who they are or their behavior. It won't change a darn thing, or stop pedos.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2019 22:20:47 GMT
www.wbrc.com/2019/06/05/chemical-castration-bill-awaiting-governor-iveys-signature/I'm all for it "if" the following provisions are in the bill. - The victim is 13 or younger. I don't think chemical Castration is right if it's a 22 year old who slept with a 16 year or 17 year old. That's not the same as a 44 year old molesting or raping a 12 year old. - There is medical proof the child was raped. If a random 10 year old says a man 'touched' him or her, but there isn't any proof, then no. Or the pedo has at least 3 + accusors. I worked at a Prison for some time. This is absolutely the right choice for real pedos. They won't change. Agreed....or we could keep them locked up? AFAIC, a 44-year-old who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old has lost his place in society. If we stop locking up drug offenders in prison we'd have plenty of room to keep pedos where they belong. Nobody loses their place in society. People are a creation of society and until they die are still a part of it and ANY behavior, even if not deemed acceptable, is a product and reflection of this\our society. The issue won't go away by sweeping it under the rug.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 4:36:43 GMT
Agreed....or we could keep them locked up? AFAIC, a 44-year-old who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old has lost his place in society. If we stop locking up drug offenders in prison we'd have plenty of room to keep pedos where they belong. Nobody loses their place in society. People are a creation of society and until they die are still a part of it and ANY behavior, even if not deemed acceptable, is a product and reflection of this\our society. The issue won't go away by sweeping it under the rug. Well then his place in society should be behind bars so more 12-year-olds don't get raped. Pedophiles aren't products of their environment, something is wrong with them that gives them a fetish for children, but they still have a choice on whether or not they act on it. |
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Post by Marv on Jun 6, 2019 9:45:21 GMT
As long as the accused agrees to it as part of a plea of some kind I’m fine with it.
Forced? No.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 6, 2019 10:35:51 GMT
www.wbrc.com/2019/06/05/chemical-castration-bill-awaiting-governor-iveys-signature/I'm all for it "if" the following provisions are in the bill. - The victim is 13 or younger. I don't think chemical Castration is right if it's a 22 year old who slept with a 16 year or 17 year old. That's not the same as a 44 year old molesting or raping a 12 year old. - There is medical proof the child was raped. If a random 10 year old says a man 'touched' him or her, but there isn't any proof, then no. Or the pedo has at least 3 + accusors. I worked at a Prison for some time. This is absolutely the right choice for real pedos. They won't change. I agree with your criteria except I want it to be proper castration and/or a life behind bars.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 6, 2019 10:39:08 GMT
Nobody loses their place in society. People are a creation of society and until they die are still a part of it and ANY behavior, even if not deemed acceptable, is a product and reflection of this\our society. The issue won't go away by sweeping it under the rug. Well then his place in society should be behind bars so more 12-year-olds don't get raped. Pedophiles aren't products of their environment, something is wrong with them that gives them a fetish for children, but they still have a choice on whether or not they act on it. Putting pedos behind bars is a punishment, but is not going to prevent other pedos from surfacing. Their issues run so much deeper and is psychological. We can't possibly know what drives them, or what their own childhood traumas were. This is where programs and counseling services really need to be the focus and come into effect. There are millions\billions of people on this planet. Pedophilia is not a worldwide epidemic and while the crime could be tragic for the victim, what is the point of projecting our own faux outrages onto how others are supposed to feel, just because the thought of it might stir up personal feelings of anger and disgust, when the core issues aren't being addressed. It is OUR society that is creating them. Each victim will also deal with their own trauma in their own way and some may not even feel affected by it at all.
Polanski had sex at 44 with a 13 yr old girl and his case cannot be simplified either. There are many layers surrounding both him and his victim and it is just not that straightforward when one delves deeper into the circumstances. Polanski had massive traumas in his life and yet he is not a sick individual, though many would beg to differ.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 6, 2019 10:39:51 GMT
www.wbrc.com/2019/06/05/chemical-castration-bill-awaiting-governor-iveys-signature/I'm all for it "if" the following provisions are in the bill. - The victim is 13 or younger. I don't think chemical Castration is right if it's a 22 year old who slept with a 16 year or 17 year old. That's not the same as a 44 year old molesting or raping a 12 year old. - There is medical proof the child was raped. If a random 10 year old says a man 'touched' him or her, but there isn't any proof, then no. Or the pedo has at least 3 + accusors. I worked at a Prison for some time. This is absolutely the right choice for real pedos. They won't change. I agree with your criteria except I want it to be proper castration and/or a life behind bars. And for female sex offenders, do we cut out their clit?
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Post by Morgana on Jun 6, 2019 10:44:57 GMT
I agree with your criteria except I want it to be proper castration and/or a life behind bars. And for female sex offenders, do we cut out their clit?
That and/or life behind bars.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 6, 2019 10:46:43 GMT
And for female sex offenders, do we cut out their clit?
That and/or life behind bars. And the purpose it will serve???
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Post by Morgana on Jun 6, 2019 10:49:31 GMT
That and/or life behind bars. And the purpose it will serve??? I thought that self-evident, but since it seems not: it will keep them from re-offending.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 6, 2019 11:30:44 GMT
And the purpose it will serve??? I thought that self-evident, but since it seems not: it will keep them from re-offending. I just find it fascinating, that many humans will want to commit crimes against humanity, like sexual mutilation, to appease their own faux outrage and bloodlust and all under the guise of the law and justice. No wonder we have all this corruption in our society, criminal minds are off the chart and people forget to keep themselves in check and look at the kind of people they have become themselves.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 6, 2019 12:18:07 GMT
I thought that self-evident, but since it seems not: it will keep them from re-offending. I just find it fascinating, that many humans will want to commit crimes against humanity, like sexual mutilation, to appease their own faux outrage and bloodlust and all under the guise of the law and justice. No wonder we have all this corruption in our society, criminal minds are off the chart and people forget to keep themselves in check and look at the kind of people they have become themselves. How is it false outrage? I believe that if you commit a crime you should pay for it. My reactions to anyone committing any kind of crime against a child are severe, I know that, but then again someone harming a helpless child deserves the harshest punishment possible in my opinion.
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 6, 2019 18:03:10 GMT
I have a simple philosophy, as an adult, if you harm a child either physically, mentally, or sexually, then you should have no place in society.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 18:07:12 GMT
Well then his place in society should be behind bars so more 12-year-olds don't get raped. Pedophiles aren't products of their environment, something is wrong with them that gives them a fetish for children, but they still have a choice on whether or not they act on it. Putting pedos behind bars is a punishment, but is not going to prevent other pedos from surfacing. Their issues run so much deeper and is psychological. We can't possibly know what drives them, or what their own childhood traumas were. This is where programs and counseling services really need to be the focus and come into effect. There are millions\billions of people on this planet. Pedophilia is not a worldwide epidemic and while the crime could be tragic for the victim, what is the point of projecting our own faux outrages onto how others are supposed to feel, just because the thought of it might stir up personal feelings of anger and disgust, when the core issues aren't being addressed. It is OUR society that is creating them. Each victim will also deal with their own trauma in their own way and some may not even feel affected by it at all.
Polanski had sex at 44 with a 13 yr old girl and his case cannot be simplified either. There are many layers surrounding both him and his victim and it is just not that straightforward when one delves deeper into the circumstances. Polanski had massive traumas in his life and yet he is not a sick individual, though many would beg to differ.
I worked in a jail, and I work on a psych unit. Pedophilia is not as uncommon as you think. It is actually sick and acary how many people have been sexually abused as children. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 6, 2019 23:03:44 GMT
I have a simple philosophy, as an adult, if you harm a child either physically, mentally, or sexually, then you should have no place in society. More like simpleminded, but that doesn't surprise me after reading some of the simpleton comments on here.
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