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Post by Skaathar on Jun 8, 2019 16:15:54 GMT
So just answer the question. What score, out of 10, would you give X-men Origins and X3 Higher than 6 but not a 10. Not perfect but better than the bias critics claim So you're saying you'll give Origins a score of 7-8 while you give Civil War a score of like 4-5?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 9, 2019 5:21:22 GMT
Higher than 6 but not a 10. Not perfect but better than the bias critics claim How was their scores bias exactly? I concur dazz this is a pretty eye brow raising statement for your thenewnexus to make seeing as in 2009 when X-Men Origins: Wolverine was released the Marvel Cinematic Universe was barely a universe as it had only two movies to its name and Disney hadn't bought Marvel till a few months later so the old 'Disney shills' argument cannot work here. As far as superhero movies were concerned ten years ago the number of meh to outright poor products released to the marketplace outweighed the good to great ones, the ones critics championed and placed on standard of quality were Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, X-Men and X-2, Blade and Blade II, Hellboy and Hellboy II: The Golden Army, Superman '78, Tim Burton's Batman and its sequel Batman Returns, and Sam Raimi's first two Spider-Mans - and if memory serves nexus likes all these movie and the critics at the time evaluated X-Men Origins: Wolverine to such a standard and it clearly was not met so how were they 'in the wrong' when your Captain America: Civil War would not get made for almost a decade later?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 9, 2019 5:24:47 GMT
So just answer the question. What score, out of 10, would you give X-men Origins and X3 Higher than 6 but not a 10. Not perfect but better than the bias critics claim What bias? They judged it to the same standard established by the very same superhero films you claim to like(Raimi's Spider-Man, Nolan's and Burton's Batman, the first two X-Mens) and there was hardly a Marvel Cinematic Universe to speak of as it only had two entries at that point and Disney did not acquire the company till later in the year.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 9, 2019 5:27:55 GMT
Only a complete troll would rate Civil War a 1/10. Thank you for admitting that you're a troll. What about a 4 or 5 out of 10. It was a letdown How was it a letdown for you when you claim to have never liked any Marvel Cinematic Universe feature outside of Winter Soldier? By your logic your expectations would've been very low or you'd steer clear of the product in its release.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 9, 2019 5:32:29 GMT
Higher than 6 but not a 10. Not perfect but better than the bias critics claim So you're saying you'll give Origins a score of 7-8 while you give Civil War a score of like 4-5? Anyone giving a higher score to Origins than Civil War simply cannot be taken seriously as either a Marvel comics or movie fan, the difference in the quality of filmmaking between the two is night and day as is the respect of the source material, say what one might about what the Marvel Cinematic Universe has done with some of its characterization choices but none of them ever did anything like what Origins did to Deadpool - which the eventual Deadpool films joke about.
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Post by dazz on Jun 9, 2019 8:35:49 GMT
How was their scores bias exactly? I concur dazz this is a pretty eye brow raising statement for your thenewnexus to make seeing as in 2009 when X-Men Origins: Wolverine was released the Marvel Cinematic Universe was barely a universe as it had only two movies to its name and Disney hadn't bought Marvel till a few months later so the old 'Disney shills' argument cannot work here. As far as superhero movies were concerned ten years ago the number of meh to outright poor products released to the marketplace outweighed the good to great ones, the ones critics championed and placed on standard of quality were Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, X-Men and X-2, Blade and Blade II, Hellboy and Hellboy II: The Golden Army, Superman '78, Tim Burton's Batman and its sequel Batman Returns, and Sam Raimi's first two Spider-Mans - and if memory serves nexus likes all these movie and the critics at the time evaluated X-Men Origins: Wolverine to such a standard and it clearly was not met so how were they 'in the wrong' when your Captain America: Civil War would not get made for almost a decade later? And on top of that Origins being lasted is fair, script wise it was shit because it was a victim of the writers strike if memory serves, like I think they went into filming without a completed script and the movie ended up barely being cobbled together hence the crappy quality, it also had god awful CGI claws for the main character, which given we had seen him in 3 other films where they had looked much better just makes this stand out worse, then they fucking ruined Deadpool after actually starting it out with some promise in the opening.
Origins could have been great, it started off pretty good and it had imo a great Sabretooth in Schreiber, just how they ended up using him in the end was a waste, which was the case for most of the characters, Deadpool was wasted, Sabretooth was wasted, Gambit was wasted, the forced X-Men inserts of Scott, Xavier & Emma was wasted also, the film was just bad.
Last Stand as well was crappy because it's like ok waste Xavier, waste Scott, waste fucking Jean, give Magneto the dumbest hideout for the master of magnetism by putting it in the woods, and oh yeah forget Jean loves Scott lets give Logan the big moment because Logan's cool, I mean I am a Wolverine fan love that character and outside X-Men: Evolution I never cared for Cyclops as a character but for fuck sake in the films Jean only shows a slight attraction to Logan, but she loves Cyclops and story wise Logan doesn't even know her, he's spent all of like 3 days with her so that whole ending falls so flat emotionally.
It's one thing to say that now the MCU get unfairly praised because of Disney, though I think it's BS but whatever, but to say those films were unfairly blasted is stupid.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jun 10, 2019 4:43:06 GMT
So you're saying you'll give Origins a score of 7-8 while you give Civil War a score of like 4-5? Anyone giving a higher score to Origins than Civil War simply cannot be taken seriously as either a Marvel comics or movie fan, the difference in the quality of filmmaking between the two is night and day as is the respect of the source material, say what one might about what the Marvel Cinematic Universe has done with some of its characterization choices but none of them ever did anything like what Origins did to Deadpool - which the eventual Deadpool films joke about. Civil war is too cheesy
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 10, 2019 5:13:08 GMT
Anyone giving a higher score to Origins than Civil War simply cannot be taken seriously as either a Marvel comics or movie fan, the difference in the quality of filmmaking between the two is night and day as is the respect of the source material, say what one might about what the Marvel Cinematic Universe has done with some of its characterization choices but none of them ever did anything like what Origins did to Deadpool - which the eventual Deadpool films joke about. Civil war is too cheesy If you like Origins then you have no right to criticize a movie like Civil War for being too cheesy as Origins has some of the dumbest and most intelligence insulting content in any mainstream blockbuster release, comic based or otherwise, in the last decade. There's a *very* good reason why any and all X-Men movies and TV ignored it other than Deadpool which ridiculed it - actually, that raises a question, if you are okay with Origins why like the Deadpool movies when they trash it so badly? This should be good...
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Post by poelzig on Jun 10, 2019 5:13:55 GMT
It never ceases to amuse me how DC gets so may people frothing by doing so little.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 10, 2019 5:15:54 GMT
It never ceases to amuse me how DC gets so may people frothing by doing so little. Actually most of the thread are responses to nexus.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 10, 2019 5:18:01 GMT
If you like Origins then you have no right to criticize a movie like Civil War for being too cheesy as Origins has some of the dumbest and most intelligence insulting content in any mainstream blockbuster release, comic based or otherwise, in the last decade. There's a *very* good reason why any and all X-Men movies and TV ignored it other than Deadpool which ridiculed it - actually, that raises a question, if you are okay with Origins why like the Deadpool movies when they trash it so badly? This should be good... That film wasn’t ignored “entirely” since some of the memory fragments DID appear in ‘The Wolverine’. But yeah, ‘X-Men Origins: Wolverine’ was still not good.
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Post by poelzig on Jun 10, 2019 5:50:57 GMT
It never ceases to amuse me how DC gets so may people frothing by doing so little. Actually most of the thread are responses to nexus. There's like a dozen triggered posters spewing vitriol at DC. The same 3 or so posters discussed Nexus post with him. Actually you're not good at them maths are you joey? For real tho DC gets the most people on the comic book boards and it's not even close. Sorry if it bothers you that that amuses me.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jun 10, 2019 8:10:42 GMT
If you like Origins then you have no right to criticize a movie like Civil War for being too cheesy as Origins has some of the dumbest and most intelligence insulting content in any mainstream blockbuster release, comic based or otherwise, in the last decade. There's a *very* good reason why any and all X-Men movies and TV ignored it other than Deadpool which ridiculed it - actually, that raises a question, if you are okay with Origins why like the Deadpool movies when they trash it so badly? This should be good... They ignore cause they are haters. Btw there is a good reason i ignore most of the mcu outside of Winter Soldier and Netflix wait for it. Most of the mcu is trash and its too cheesy
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Post by dazz on Jun 10, 2019 13:17:09 GMT
Actually most of the thread are responses to nexus. There's like a dozen triggered posters spewing vitriol at DC. The same 3 or so posters discussed Nexus post with him. Actually you're not good at them maths are you joey? For real tho DC gets the most people on the comic book boards and it's not even close. Sorry if it bothers you that that amuses me. Actually a distinction issue not a maths issue, most posts on this thread are either by Nexus or to/about what he said, most people however do respond to DC-Fan meaning that the both of you are right and wrong at the same time.
Glad you find Dc-Fans rage inducing trolling amusing, good for you, personally I find it more annoying now that he's truly stopped even trying, used to be fun when he would atleast pretend to debate people, now it's all just copy and past the exact same statement over and over again or just selectively misquoting to pretend to prove a point, the little buggers gotten lazy and that in of itself is annoying.
But then I do enjoy calling him a cunt and he offers plenty of opportunities to do so, so I cant complain too much.
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Post by merh on Jun 10, 2019 14:42:20 GMT
Actually most of the thread are responses to nexus. There's like a dozen triggered posters spewing vitriol at DC. The same 3 or so posters discussed Nexus post with him. Actually you're not good at them maths are you joey? For real tho DC gets the most people on the comic book boards and it's not even close. Sorry if it bothers you that that amuses me. McDonald's sells a lot of burgers. Doesn't mean they are the best
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Post by bud47 on Jun 10, 2019 16:43:42 GMT
If you like Origins then you have no right to criticize a movie like Civil War for being too cheesy as Origins has some of the dumbest and most intelligence insulting content in any mainstream blockbuster release, comic based or otherwise, in the last decade. There's a *very* good reason why any and all X-Men movies and TV ignored it other than Deadpool which ridiculed it - actually, that raises a question, if you are okay with Origins why like the Deadpool movies when they trash it so badly? This should be good... They ignore cause they are haters. Btw there is a good reason i ignore most of the mcu outside of Winter Soldier and Netflix wait for it. Most of the mcu is trash and its too cheesy Is Fox themselves included as one of those "haters"? Because they've spent the last 10 years and 8 films apologizing for it and trying to retcon it from existence.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 10, 2019 17:45:05 GMT
If you like Origins then you have no right to criticize a movie like Civil War for being too cheesy as Origins has some of the dumbest and most intelligence insulting content in any mainstream blockbuster release, comic based or otherwise, in the last decade. There's a *very* good reason why any and all X-Men movies and TV ignored it other than Deadpool which ridiculed it - actually, that raises a question, if you are okay with Origins why like the Deadpool movies when they trash it so badly? This should be good... They ignore cause they are haters. Btw there is a good reason i ignore most of the mcu outside of Winter Soldier and Netflix wait for it. Most of the mcu is trash and its too cheesy Haters which include the film's director Gavin Hood(Who walked off set during the middle of production and had to be replaced by another person because his vision was not being realized and being retooled behind his back), Ryan Reynolds(Who hated what they had done to his character Deadpool), Rob Liefeld(Creator of Deadpool), Hugh Jackman(Who felt it was a major letdown due to falling short of expectations and not doing the character of Wolverine any justice), Liev Schreiber, Taylor Kitsch, Will.I.Am, and a plethora of Fox studio executives who voted to discontinue the intended line of 'X-Men Origins' films in favor of X-Men: First Class which would ignore the entire movie and to have then Fox chairman Tom Rothman not to be very involved in that production. I'd say to a lot of folk in the industry X-Men Origins is trash and too cheesy and regardless of how much money it earned the stench was just too strong to push forward with original intentions. Oh please you don't 'ignore' anything you watch every new MCU movie that is released into theatres and attempt to watch every new show that is associated with it, if you really are not fond of it you would not see every movie which you clearly do or every new show which you also clearly do. The more time passes the more it comes to light that you are actually a fan of the MCU but you say stupid things to get likes out of trolls like DC-Fan and Power Ranger because the real world isn't treating you very nice and you have nothing of any real value to contribute to conversation. You are a hypocrite and a liar. P.S. A very 'mature' filmmaker by the name of Quentin Tarantino loves the MCU and considers Thor: Ragnarok to be his favorite out of all of them link
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jun 10, 2019 17:48:58 GMT
Review: “This MCU movie is bad.”
DC-Fan: “Excellent review!”
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 10, 2019 20:10:08 GMT
Anyone giving a higher score to Origins than Civil War simply cannot be taken seriously as either a Marvel comics or movie fan, the difference in the quality of filmmaking between the two is night and day as is the respect of the source material, say what one might about what the Marvel Cinematic Universe has done with some of its characterization choices but none of them ever did anything like what Origins did to Deadpool - which the eventual Deadpool films joke about. Civil war is too cheesy And what do you think makes it cheesy?
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Post by thenewnexus on Jun 10, 2019 20:34:07 GMT
And what do you think makes it cheesy? RDJ is not serious Stark he sounds like a smartass most of the movie. That airport battle was child's play. There are memes of Hawkeye and Black Panther Fighting.Towards the end there is that Tony Stank line
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