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Post by teleadm on Jun 7, 2019 10:09:33 GMT
Since it was the Swedish National Day yesterday I thought this could be a bit fun. The 6th of June is our National Day and we celebrate it because of reasons that hardly any Swede knows, some historians found a speach by a king from the mid-1550s that happened to happen on 6th of June, while other historians says it's a latter day creation. So it doesn't matter if this list comes a day late. These 10 movies chosen by BFI (British Film Institute) tries to be as diversive as possible with only one movie per director. These kind of lists are always discussable (and please do!), I see them more as a good way to start if someone out there is interested in Swedish movies (as in this post), and then each and every one can make up their own minds if any of those created any curiosity to go further. I've chosen to use the English or International titles in this post. The chosen ones are: Sir Arne’s Treasure 1919, Director Mauritz Stiller Witchcraft Through the Ages 1922, Director Benjamin Christensen (who is actually a Dane, but the movie is Swedish). Miss Julie 1951, Director Alf Sjöberg Wild Strawberries 1957, Director Ingmar Bergman Raven's End 1963, Director Bo Widerberg I Am Curious (Yellow) 1967, Director Vilgot Sjöman The Emigrants 1971, Director Jan Troell Show Me Love 1998, Director Lukas Moodysson Songs from the Second Floor 2000, Director Roy Andersson Let the Right One In 2008, Director Tomas Alfredson Those were the chosen ones. Agree or disagree? please discuss, the speech is free! For more indepth reading about each movie, the complete artice is here: BFI 10 Swedish essentials
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Post by wmcclain on Jun 7, 2019 10:57:54 GMT
Happy unknown holiday!
I've seen only four of those. I would pay not to see Songs from the Second Floor again!
Like a lot of people I probably have seen more Bergman and less of the others. Thanks for linking to the list.
BFI produces fine home video products.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 7, 2019 22:30:14 GMT
Happy unknown holiday! I've seen only four of those. I would pay not to see Songs from the Second Floor again! Like a lot of people I probably have seen more Bergman and less of the others. Thanks for linking to the list. BFI produces fine home video products. I would call Songs from Second floor is crap, that only pleased a few too important critics
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Post by petrolino on Jun 7, 2019 23:21:08 GMT
Happy unknown holiday! I've seen only four of those. I would pay not to see Songs from the Second Floor again! Like a lot of people I probably have seen more Bergman and less of the others. Thanks for linking to the list. BFI produces fine home video products. I would call Songs from Second floor is crap, that only pleased a few too important critics I didn't like it either.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Jun 7, 2019 23:41:49 GMT
Thanks teleadm … That still from Curious Yellow has finally inspired me to watch tonight, the film has sat unwatched for years on my shelves ! I enjoy Swedish classic cinema very much... Erotikon (1920) is a sensational silent from Mauritz Stiller , the dark dramas of Hasse Ekman Flicka och hyacinter (1950) , the sensual romance of Lars-Magnus Lindgren, Käre John (1964) and a favourite comedy is Äppelkriget (1971) the Apple War from Tage Danielsson
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 8, 2019 1:31:12 GMT
Since it was the Swedish National Day yesterday I thought this could be a bit fun. The 6th of June is our National Day and we celebrate it because of reasons that hardly any Swede knows, some historians found a speach by a king from the mid-1550s that happened to happen on 6th of June, while other historians says it's a latter day creation. So it doesn't matter if this list comes a day late. Seeing you mention Swedish National Day reminded me of when I was looking at videos on YouTube featuring Swedish actress Alicia Vikander and stumbled across this one where she talks about Sweden's Midsummer Holiday. I had been waiting since first finding that^ video to post it on the date the holiday is celebrated...then promptly forgot. Oh well, better late than never. I figured this was probably as good a thread as any. I hope you don't mind. Back on the subject of Swedish films... HirundoRustica first directed my attention towards the film Arn: The Knight Templar (2007). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arn_%E2%80%93_The_Knight_TemplarIt was sometime after I started watching the TV series Bron/Broen (aka The Bridge) starring Swedish actress Sofia Helin. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_(2011_TV_series)The reason I took an interest in the movie was because she starred in it. I own the ‘Extended Version’ on Blu-ray. Apologies if any of this^ is OT.
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Post by london777 on Jun 8, 2019 1:47:17 GMT
I agree with Chalice of Evil.
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Post by london777 on Jun 8, 2019 2:03:28 GMT
A good but minor film, Hon dansade en sommar (One Summer of Happiness) (1951) dir: Arne Mattson was mildly influential. A brief sequence of the young couple frolicking naked in the lake in the middle distance was the first time most of us had seen total nudity in the cinema yet it was quietly accepted as being appropriate in context. Bergman covered much the same ground two years later in Sommaren med Monika (Summer with Monika) (1953).
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Post by london777 on Jun 8, 2019 2:10:33 GMT
Like a lot of people I probably have seen more Bergman and less of the others. Though there are many good Swedish films from other directors, the awkward truth is that, were we to pick the Top Ten Swedish Movies on quality, no-one else would get a look in. Though Stiller and Sjöström would appear if historical importance is also a criterion.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 8, 2019 2:38:20 GMT
I’ll play contrarian here. I have seen 6 of the 10 but most were seen years ago. If you are going to pick only 10 from more than a century of great films, then – except one – they are worthy choices.
Here’s where I get all over contrary:
One of the recent ones is “Song From The Second Floor” (2000) – which I loved. I also really like Andersson’s other films “You, The Living” (2007) and “A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence” (2014) (English titles, of course).
The most modern one is “Let The Right One In” which I thought was an unpleasant exercise full of vampire and modern “horror” tropes. I have to shake my head whenever the title or its English language remake shows up on any “Best” list.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 8, 2019 13:52:53 GMT
Thanks teleadm … That still from Curious Yellow has finally inspired me to watch tonight, the film has sat unwatched for years on my shelves ! I enjoy Swedish classic cinema very much... Erotikon (1920) is a sensational silent from Mauritz Stiller , the dark dramas of Hasse Ekman Flicka och hyacinter (1950) , the sensual romance of Lars-Magnus Lindgren, Käre John (1964) and a favourite comedy is Äppelkriget (1971) the Apple War from Tage Danielsson
I agree, when doing those kind of lists a few directors falls behind. unfairly like Hasse Ekman, Lars-Magnus Lindgren and Tage Danielson, since they too made some great movies, and Girl with Hyacints is a great movie, sadly Ekman's films in his later career was a bit out of touch and too old-fashioned, or even too popular, and I guess that's why he is seldom mentioned. His father was Gösta Ekman, whi played Leslie Howard's role in the Swedish version of Intermezzo. Lars-Magnus Lindgren breakthough was Angels, Do they Exist?, and Dear John offcourse, but sadly at the end of the 1960's his directorial career somehow petered out. Tage Danielsson was part of the comedy team of Hasse o Tage, who created some marvelous revues that was also televised over the years, mixing comedy and satiric bite. Thanks for your respons!
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Post by teleadm on Jun 8, 2019 14:24:37 GMT
Since it was the Swedish National Day yesterday I thought this could be a bit fun. The 6th of June is our National Day and we celebrate it because of reasons that hardly any Swede knows, some historians found a speach by a king from the mid-1550s that happened to happen on 6th of June, while other historians says it's a latter day creation. So it doesn't matter if this list comes a day late. Seeing you mention Swedish National Day reminded me of when I was looking at videos on YouTube featuring Swedish actress Alicia Vikander and stumbled across this one where she talks about Sweden's Midsummer Holiday. I ha been waiting since first finding that^ video to post it on the date the holiday is celebrated...then promptly forgot. Oh well, better late than never. I figured this was probably as good a thread as any. I hope you don't mind. Back on the subject of Swedish films... HirundoRustica first directed my attention towards the film Arn: The Knight Templar (2007). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arn_%E2%80%93_The_Knight_TemplarIt was sometime after I started watching the TV series Bron/Broen (aka The Bridge) starring Swedish actress Sofia Helin. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_(2011_TV_series)The reason I took an interest in the movie was because she starred in it. I own the ‘Extended Version’ on Blu-ray. Apologies if any of this^ is OT. I wrote in my original OP that the speach is free, so don't worry! as long as we don't quarrel and call each other stupid names. The Vikander clip was fun. The Midsummer feasts differs from north to the south, and is one of the few Pagan holidays we have left, it's not a specific day nowdays (it once was), the last week-end in June is the usual date. Midsummer Eve is also a traditional day to marry, my parents did. It's still called a Maypole (Majstång) even if it is in June, I think it was a decision that it might be possible that North and South Sweden have the same weather at the end of June. While Swedes dances around the pole, and we like to dance fast, I too remember that "that little frogs are funny to look at, without ears and tails" and Quack-ack-ack, Quack-ack-ack (One is supposed to jump around with bended knees, and I can't do that anymore). Another Midsummer song that I remember, in a slightly hipper version.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 8, 2019 21:44:24 GMT
I have seen Show Me Love 1998
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Post by manfromplanetx on Jun 8, 2019 21:52:36 GMT
Thanks teleadm … That still from Curious Yellow has finally inspired me to watch tonight, the film has sat unwatched for years on my shelves ! I agree, when doing those kind of lists a few directors falls behind. unfairly like Hasse Ekman, Lars-Magnus Lindgren and Tage Danielson, since they too made some great movies, and Girl with Hyacints is a great movie, sadly Ekman's films in his later career was a bit out of touch and too old-fashioned, or even too popular, and I guess that's why he is seldom mentioned. His father was Gösta Ekman, whi played Leslie Howard's role in the Swedish version of Intermezzo. Lars-Magnus Lindgren breakthough was Angels, Do they Exist?, and Dear John offcourse, but sadly at the end of the 1960's his directorial career somehow petered out. Tage Danielsson was part of the comedy team of Hasse o Tage, who created some marvelous revues that was also televised over the years, mixing comedy and satiric bite. Thanks for your respons! Thanks so much Teleadm I have been most interested and have noted some great recs... Following on we finally got Curious and watched Yellow last night... Well the list does say "essential" which is not exactly the same as the best. With a very low user rating of 6 at IMDb I must admit I also did not fully enjoy this film, and was glad when the end credits finally rolled. Essential as a historical cinematic curio certainly. I found it to be a bit of a muddled mess ... Did I miss something ? am I getting old !! I think Blue will have to sit on the shelves for some time yet before I get motivated to watch it... Happy Viewing to you...
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 8, 2019 22:09:43 GMT
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Post by teleadm on Jun 9, 2019 2:20:15 GMT
I agree, when doing those kind of lists a few directors falls behind. unfairly like Hasse Ekman, Lars-Magnus Lindgren and Tage Danielson, since they too made some great movies, and Girl with Hyacints is a great movie, sadly Ekman's films in his later career was a bit out of touch and too old-fashioned, or even too popular, and I guess that's why he is seldom mentioned. His father was Gösta Ekman, whi played Leslie Howard's role in the Swedish version of Intermezzo. Lars-Magnus Lindgren breakthough was Angels, Do they Exist?, and Dear John offcourse, but sadly at the end of the 1960's his directorial career somehow petered out. Tage Danielsson was part of the comedy team of Hasse o Tage, who created some marvelous revues that was also televised over the years, mixing comedy and satiric bite. Thanks for your respons! Thanks so much Teleadm I have been most interested and have noted some great recs... Following on we finally got Curious and watched Yellow last night... Well the list does say "essential" which is not exactly the same as the best. With a very low user rating of 6 at IMDb I must admit I also did not fully enjoy this film, and was glad when the end credits finally rolled. Essential as a historical cinematic curio certainly. I found it to be a bit of a muddled mess ... Did I miss something ? am I getting old !! I think Blue will have to sit on the shelves for some time yet before I get motivated to watch it... Happy Viewing to you... A friendly Alert!. If you didn't like Yellow you won't like Blue, since it's the same movie but in different camera angles. It became famous for all the wrong reasons (boobs), and not because it was a good movie. Vilgot Sjöman was a self-satisfied quasi-intellectual who once said that his movies were too great for Swedes to understand, in a TV interview after one of his later movies flopped.
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Post by petrolino on Jun 9, 2019 2:30:38 GMT
'Miss Julie' is ranked by some filmmakers as the greatest film of the 1950s due to the magic it exudes. Some cineastes believe it to be the greatest August Strindberg adaptation on screen to date.
'In an interview with Cahiers Du Cinema in 1957, Stanley Kubrick praised it, saying that it was "directed in an extremely remarkable fashion."
- 'Miss Julie' at imdb
'Little Star' - Stina Nordenstam
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Post by teleadm on Jun 9, 2019 2:47:14 GMT
LOL! And I even got the soundtrack vinyl!
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 9, 2019 2:59:17 GMT
I saw it in a theater when it came out. And when I played the title track an hour or so ago, I sang along with Frankie.
"I'll take Sweden Yah, yah, yah!"
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Post by petrolino on Jun 9, 2019 3:20:00 GMT
My father travelled a great deal because he worked his whole life in the football industry. His favourite country to visit, in all seriousness, was always Sweden.
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