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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 3, 2019 2:14:15 GMT
going tomorrow, cant wait!! Same. Let us know how you like it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 6:10:08 GMT
It’s something I’ll have to research and see again to understand it better thematically and such but the cinematography and production design alone makes it deserving of a 9/10 for me.
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Post by hi224 on Jul 3, 2019 16:49:14 GMT
Going soon.
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Post by hi224 on Jul 3, 2019 16:49:56 GMT
Yesterday was sublime.
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Post by Nora on Jul 3, 2019 21:49:13 GMT
It’s something I’ll have to research and see again to understand it better thematically and such but the cinematography and production design alone makes it deserving of a 9/10 for me. i agree that the cinematographu AND production design were 9/10 or even 10/10 for the PD. bud the story this time was a disappointing one for me. which pains me to say. overall 7/10. still worth seeig for fans of slow burning horrors or rather creepy folk tales but it cannot compare to the pure briliance of Hereditary. Both acting wise and story wise. Hereditary offered two performanes that to me were Oscar nom worthy and I still stand by it. This had nothing like that. “just” very good acting - and thats a lot! but nothing to write home about. but the story... oh the story. to me the true genious of Hereditary was a story that offered true despair and horrific situation where the horrificness of it was that the audience couldnt really say “well, just do this/that to get out of it” it felt really hopelessly psychotic, dangerous, sad and dark yet its protagonists felt like clever and real characters. here, SADLY, its bunch of half idiots being stupid at home and stupid on stupid vacation - and I struggled to care about any of them and to me that was the biggest problem. if i wanted to aggravate poelzig a bit more i would say it followed the common flaw of many hororrs - having a group of almost laughably silly/moronic/flawed americans in the center of the story, which is a shame because Ari is such a clever director and the movie looked and felt so beautiful and had so many clever ideas. if only one of the group maybe was a bit smarter. (there was one smarter one and ironicly enough it was the non american in the story). too bad; because i just adds / piles on the bad rep americans often get abroad.
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Post by Nora on Jul 3, 2019 22:02:10 GMT
going tomorrow, cant wait!! Same. Let us know how you like it. I enjoyed it but it didn’t fulfill my expectations sadly. It was ok and looked great. But not a movie I would remember a year from now as exceptional.
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Post by moviemanjackson on Jul 4, 2019 0:51:23 GMT
WTF did I watch (in a mostly very good way) lol? It's kind of original but pulls a good deal from other things. Pugh is amazing here, so is Reynor. I don't think it has a consistently sharp through plot line as Hereditary did. Runs a tad bit long too.
But at the same time, the direction is better from Aster, and that in no way casts shade on Hereditary which was superbly directed. This movie is striking, and it'll be a damn shame if there's no buzz for at least best director and cinematography (though it's early). He's got a way of burning scenes and moments in a person's mind. He's got at least three more moments like such in this movie. The sound effects and when he chooses to use them is frightening too.
On first watch, I think Hereditary is a better movie. With that said, I have only watched once because it is soooo draining. I'm actually looking forward to rewatching Midsommar and owning it on Blu-Ray. It's got a little levity and just so much more bizarre in humor, direction, and approach. I watched it with press so I'd love to see in a regular theater and get the vibe of everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 1:58:35 GMT
i thought this movie was boring and the bleached overexposed look annoyed me because there's no way it would appear like that in reality, and this movie is going for a realism aspect to horror. writing wasnt bad, but movie took too long.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 4, 2019 4:44:52 GMT
On first watch, I think Hereditary is a better movie. With that said, I have only watched once because it is soooo draining. I'm actually looking forward to rewatching Midsommar and owning it on Blu-Ray. It's got a little levity and just so much more bizarre in humor, direction, and approach. I watched it with press so I'd love to see in a regular theater and get the vibe of everyone else. A surprising thing to me about Hereditary is how great it was on second and third viewings. It doesn’t lose anything in my opinion, and I think it actually gets better. As for Midsommar, I pretty much completely agree. It’s shot and directed immaculately from a visual standpoint. One of the best looking movies in a long time. Pugh was so good, and actually better than Collette in Hereditary in my opinion. I loved her character a lot. It does get pretty long, though, and I was really hoping for a real story instead of a slow burn, peel-back-the-layers kind of narrative.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 7:57:43 GMT
Really dug this! I do have some questions about it and will be asking them later this week (as I wrap my brain around with what I just watched lol) but yeah this film delivered the goods overall. Ari Aster is a director we need to be taking very seriously .
Also, Pugh is fast becoming my favorite working actress right now. Not only is she cute as a button but DAMN she can cry so easily on cue its not even funny(that is not easy to do). I wonder if the Academy will touch this film when awards season comes around lol . I sure hope so cause she deserve some serious consideration as of right now. As does the cinematography , score and costume design.
8.5/10
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Post by nostromo on Jul 4, 2019 9:11:24 GMT
It’s something I’ll have to research and see again to understand it better thematically and such but the cinematography and production design alone makes it deserving of a 9/10 for me. i agree that the cinematographu AND production design were 9/10 or even 10/10 for the PD. bud the story this time was a disappointing one for me. which pains me to say. overall 7/10. still worth seeig for fans of slow burning horrors or rather creepy folk tales but it cannot compare to the pure briliance of Hereditary. Both acting wise and story wise. Hereditary offered two performanes that to me were Oscar nom worthy and I still stand by it. This had nothing like that. “just” very good acting - and thats a lot! but nothing to write home about. but the story... oh the story. to me the true genious of Hereditary was a story that offered true despair and horrific situation where the horrificness of it was that the audience couldnt really say “well, just do this/that to get out of it” it felt really hopelessly psychotic, dangerous, sad and dark yet its protagonists felt like clever and real characters. here, SADLY, its bunch of half idiots being stupid at home and stupid on stupid vacation - and I struggled to care about any of them and to me that was the biggest problem. if i wanted to aggravate poelzig a bit more i would say it followed the common flaw of many hororrs - having a group of almost laughably silly/moronic/flawed americans in the center of the story, which is a shame because Ari is such a clever director and the movie looked and felt so beautiful and had so many clever ideas. if only one of the group maybe was a bit smarter. (there was one smarter one and ironicly enough it was the non american in the story). too bad; because i just adds / piles on the bad rep americans often get abroad. I agree. It has way too much derivative stuff going on. I don't want to spoil it for others so won't name the films, but it just didn't match up to Hereditary despite some lovely images and a fine performance from Pugh. There was a few bits of laughter in the showing I went to - the black comedy felt a bit awkward because people weren't sure whether it was supposed to be funny.
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Post by Nora on Jul 4, 2019 13:15:20 GMT
On first watch, I think Hereditary is a better movie. With that said, I have only watched once because it is soooo draining. I'm actually looking forward to rewatching Midsommar and owning it on Blu-Ray. It's got a little levity and just so much more bizarre in humor, direction, and approach. I watched it with press so I'd love to see in a regular theater and get the vibe of everyone else. A surprising thing to me about Hereditary is how great it was on second and third viewings. It doesn’t lose anything in my opinion, and I think it actually gets better. As for Midsommar, I pretty much completely agree. It’s shot and directed immaculately from a visual standpoint. One of the best looking movies in a long time. Pugh was so good, and actually better than Collette in Hereditary in my opinion. I loved her character a lot. It does get pretty long, though, and I was really hoping for a real story instead of a slow burn, peel-back-the-layers kind of narrative. Pugh was hood but better than Collette? uat? all she did was stared. sue did it well but nothing really stands out. otherwise i agree.
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Post by Nora on Jul 4, 2019 13:17:28 GMT
i agree that the cinematographu AND production design were 9/10 or even 10/10 for the PD. bud the story this time was a disappointing one for me. which pains me to say. overall 7/10. still worth seeig for fans of slow burning horrors or rather creepy folk tales but it cannot compare to the pure briliance of Hereditary. Both acting wise and story wise. Hereditary offered two performanes that to me were Oscar nom worthy and I still stand by it. This had nothing like that. “just” very good acting - and thats a lot! but nothing to write home about. but the story... oh the story. to me the true genious of Hereditary was a story that offered true despair and horrific situation where the horrificness of it was that the audience couldnt really say “well, just do this/that to get out of it” it felt really hopelessly psychotic, dangerous, sad and dark yet its protagonists felt like clever and real characters. here, SADLY, its bunch of half idiots being stupid at home and stupid on stupid vacation - and I struggled to care about any of them and to me that was the biggest problem. if i wanted to aggravate poelzig a bit more i would say it followed the common flaw of many hororrs - having a group of almost laughably silly/moronic/flawed americans in the center of the story, which is a shame because Ari is such a clever director and the movie looked and felt so beautiful and had so many clever ideas. if only one of the group maybe was a bit smarter. (there was one smarter one and ironicly enough it was the non american in the story). too bad; because i just adds / piles on the bad rep americans often get abroad. I agree. It has way too much derivative stuff going on. I don't want to spoil it for others so won't name the films, but it just didn't match up to Hereditary despite some lovely images and a fine performance from Pugh. There was a few bits of laughter in the showing I went to - the black comedy felt a bit awkward because people weren't sure whether it was supposed to be funny. oh yea glad you reminded me. there was a lot of laughter in my cinema. several times. i wonder if Ari meant it to be funny thay way.
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Post by Nora on Jul 4, 2019 13:21:05 GMT
i agree that the cinematographu AND production design were 9/10 or even 10/10 for the PD. bud the story this time was a disappointing one for me. which pains me to say. overall 7/10. still worth seeig for fans of slow burning horrors or rather creepy folk tales but it cannot compare to the pure briliance of Hereditary. Both acting wise and story wise. Hereditary offered two performanes that to me were Oscar nom worthy and I still stand by it. This had nothing like that. “just” very good acting - and thats a lot! but nothing to write home about. but the story... oh the story. to me the true genious of Hereditary was a story that offered true despair and horrific situation where the horrificness of it was that the audience couldnt really say “well, just do this/that to get out of it” it felt really hopelessly psychotic, dangerous, sad and dark yet its protagonists felt like clever and real characters. here, SADLY, its bunch of half idiots being stupid at home and stupid on stupid vacation - and I struggled to care about any of them and to me that was the biggest problem. if i wanted to aggravate poelzig a bit more i would say it followed the common flaw of many hororrs - having a group of almost laughably silly/moronic/flawed americans in the center of the story, which is a shame because Ari is such a clever director and the movie looked and felt so beautiful and had so many clever ideas. if only one of the group maybe was a bit smarter. (there was one smarter one and ironicly enough it was the non american in the story). too bad; because i just adds / piles on the bad rep americans often get abroad. It doesn't look too original, like borrowing themes from other films past, but I will still look forward to seeing it. Have to wait until August in OZ. I am more interested in Aster as a director and his approach to the subject, due to his impressive showing with Hereditary. It does appear to be too long as well, but I will have reserve any genuine criticism until I have seen it. It looks like he has used a story and characters that will have a broader appeal to the more mainstream and millennial audiences. its for sure still wortj seeing and he Is an amazing director. but u may just hit the nail on the head here - yes this is a sinply more relatable horror. group of young people get into a new environment and odd things start happening. the lenght fo it didnt bother me at all, the visuals are si pretty it doesnt matter.
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Post by Nora on Jul 4, 2019 13:23:18 GMT
also his use of the audio sensory cue for fear didnt work in me tje way the tongue clicking did in Hereditary. but it was a good idea it just doesnt scare me the way the tongue coicking did.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 4, 2019 15:43:57 GMT
A surprising thing to me about Hereditary is how great it was on second and third viewings. It doesn’t lose anything in my opinion, and I think it actually gets better. As for Midsommar, I pretty much completely agree. It’s shot and directed immaculately from a visual standpoint. One of the best looking movies in a long time. Pugh was so good, and actually better than Collette in Hereditary in my opinion. I loved her character a lot. It does get pretty long, though, and I was really hoping for a real story instead of a slow burn, peel-back-the-layers kind of narrative. Pugh was hood but better than Collette? uat? all she did was stared. sue did it well but nothing really stands out. otherwise i agree. She was really effective for me. Perhaps I’m a bit biased because she reminds me of someone who used to be very close to me, but I thought she was great nonetheless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 0:35:32 GMT
I'll post what I posted elsewhere about this. I need to see it a few more times before I decide how to rate it. I'm not sure what to think about this film. I think I need several more viewings to fully take it all in. This is definitely a thinking man's horror film. I saw some reoccurring themes from Hereditary that I assume will be a part of this director's signature.
What was good: As has been established, the cinematography is amazing. Everything from the costumes to the set design to the area they used was beautiful. The world building was also very good. I wasn't left with many questions about the cult. The way the story was told painted a clear picture about what their life and beliefs are about. You don't know specifics but don't feel like you need to. This is where I feel it did a better job than Hereditary. One of the reasons I want a few more viewings is that I assume there is symbolism and connections I missed. I feel like every scene had some significance, whether it was the action happening or what was portrayed in the art in the back ground. It was impossible to catch everything all at once I think. I did like that they made at least two of the main characters Anthropology PhD students. That helps to explain why they'd stick around when it was made clear that it wasn't a commune but a cult.
What was weak: The narrative was loose. This was where Hereditary was better. Hereditary had a clear path it followed, while in this film it wandered around a bit. I didn't buy the ending. I appreciated the Lady or the Tiger scenario they did, but after losing her parents and sister in such a horrific way, I don't think she'd let her boyfriend be killed, even if she did catch him screwing someone else. I also thought that the Londoners were characterized as a bit stupid. I get their dismay at the suicides, but once you realized you aren't in Kansas anymore, would you act like that when you are so far away from any other signs of civilization and surrounded by them? I'd nod and smile, act like this was all very normal, and then figure out how to steal a vehicle in the middle of the night and get the hell out of there unnoticed until I was gone.
I really appreciate the way it stayed unpredictable. Once they started the May queen dance I assumed she would win and that she'd end up dead and that Christian would then be held captive by the cult so they could avoid incest taboos. It went the other way with a nice nod to the Wicker Man, which is a really disturbing horror film IMO.
I'm not sure what to rate this, because I need to see it again, but it will be either good or great. Right now I don't know.
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Post by merh on Jul 5, 2019 7:46:54 GMT
Long. Slow. Predictable.
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Post by nostromo on Jul 5, 2019 10:35:30 GMT
I'm still thinking about it 48 hours after seeing it
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Post by hi224 on Jul 5, 2019 17:15:24 GMT
seeing it later.
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