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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 2:46:49 GMT
Manhunter by a long shot. And it ain't even close.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 2:49:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 3:27:21 GMT
Manhunter by far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 6:48:02 GMT
Manhunter. Better lead, better villain, better everything.
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Post by RobotTheLiving on Feb 17, 2017 11:37:24 GMT
Definitely Manhunter but it would have been interesting to see then original book ending in Manhunter. William Petersen and Tom Noonan are better in Manhunter and Brian Cox is more unsettling in the Hannibal role. Joan Allen and Emily Watson are equally good in their roles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 17:04:13 GMT
Manhunter. It's far more artistic. William Peterson's performance is on another level.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 17:06:18 GMT
Soundtrack is perfect for the film too
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Post by movielover on Feb 17, 2017 17:29:15 GMT
Manhunter.
Nice to see that movie getting some love.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Feb 17, 2017 17:37:22 GMT
I like and dislike them equally.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 19, 2017 1:29:31 GMT
MANHUNTER-86' of course. RED DRAGON, was just a carbon copy in many scenes and appears to be routinely directed and doesn't have the same sense of foreboding. Manhunter, also knew how to present it's violence in it's true form, ugly and terrifying, without going overboard. Red Dragon, attempted to give us more of a novelty value, with fleshing out Lector's role, but I found Norton bland in the lead and Fiennes—not a favorite of mine—just appeared to be acting out his role, rather than being it. He didn't come across as scary or even pitiful like Noonan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 1:48:14 GMT
Manhunter, surely. Brilliant film.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 14:38:58 GMT
People say Red Dragon is more "faithful" to the novel, but Manhunter does more justice to the characters and tone of the novel.
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Post by Jerk on Feb 19, 2017 16:23:55 GMT
Manhunter. But I prefer a few scenes in red dragon. Namely when Finnes has Hoffman strapped to the chair. "Do you see?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 19:34:18 GMT
Manhunter. But I prefer a few scenes in red dragon. Namely when Finnes has Hoffman strapped to the chair. "Do you see?" The only problem I have with that scene though, well not the scene itself per se, but that it's misplaced. In both the novel and Manhunter, we're first introduced to Francis Dolarhyde when Freddy Lounds gets kidnapped and is tied up. Which made Francis Dolarhyde more creepier and sinister, because you didn't know who the killer was beforehand. However, in the film Red Dragon, by introducing Francis Dolarhyde earlier on in the film as this sympathetic character, it diminishes the scene between him and Freddy Lounds. So I prefer the scene in Manhunter because, besides the fact that it follows that part of the novel closer, it brought more of an impact. |
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Post by Jerk on Feb 19, 2017 19:44:15 GMT
Manhunter. But I prefer a few scenes in red dragon. Namely when Finnes has Hoffman strapped to the chair. "Do you see?" The only problem I have with that scene though, well not the scene itself per se, but that it's misplaced. In both the novel and Manhunter, we're first introduced to Francis Dolarhyde when Freddy Lounds gets kidnapped and is tied up. Which made Francis Dolarhyde more creepier and sinister, because you didn't know who the killer was beforehand. However, in the film Red Dragon, by introducing Francis Dolarhyde earlier on in the film as this sympathetic character, it diminishes the scene between him and Freddy Lounds. So I prefer the scene in Manhunter because, besides the fact that it follows that part of the novel closer, it brought more of an impact. That's a fair point in the big picture of the movie. But what I like in the red dragon version of the scene is the acting. I find Finnes to be creepy enough and Hoffman as a sad sack of patethic all over. It's a delight to watch. Shame that 90% of the movie isn't as well acted considering it does have a great cast of actors. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 19:54:22 GMT
The only problem I have with that scene though, well not the scene itself per se, but that it's misplaced. In both the novel and Manhunter, we're first introduced to Francis Dolarhyde when Freddy Lounds gets kidnapped and is tied up. Which made Francis Dolarhyde more creepier and sinister, because you didn't know who the killer was beforehand. However, in the film Red Dragon, by introducing Francis Dolarhyde earlier on in the film as this sympathetic character, it diminishes the scene between him and Freddy Lounds. So I prefer the scene in Manhunter because, besides the fact that it follows that part of the novel closer, it brought more of an impact. That's a fair point in the big picture of the movie. But what I like in the red dragon version of the scene is the acting. I find Finnes to be creepy enough and Hoffman as a sad sack of patethic all over. It's a delight to watch. Shame that 90% of the movie isn't as well acted considering it does have a great cast of actors. Yeah, especially from Anthony Hopkins, who is over the top in this film. This movie tried, it's just not well executed. |
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Post by grindovermatter on Feb 19, 2017 20:32:12 GMT
Hannibal Season 3 > Manhunter > Red Dragon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 21:48:55 GMT
Here's a cool video comparing all of the Red Dragon adaptations (Manhunter, Red Dragon, Hannibal: Season Three)...
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Feb 20, 2017 3:08:12 GMT
Manhunter. Like both though.
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Post by ruiner420 on Feb 20, 2017 4:08:58 GMT
Manhunter all the way and it's not even close. Brian Cox is a much better Lektor than Hopkins. Easily the best movie about Hannibal.
Don't give up the fight for truly independent cinema!
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