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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 27, 2019 11:52:55 GMT
Two episodes to go and I think it's officially passed Daredevil as my favorite Netflix show.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 27, 2019 15:58:15 GMT
Finished it, overall not a bad season I think I'd rate it behind the first but above the second. Liked the ending though, kept it open so if they ever want to re-explore Jessica for a later MCU show or movie its there.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 28, 2019 1:39:20 GMT
They did, this was the last one. So you even watch the MCU TV shows on top of all the movies as well? Are a closet fan? Be honest. Like I've said before, I'm a fan of superhero movies and TV shows. I've watched 80+ superhero movies and 25+ superhero TV shows. And that just includes the live-action movies and TV shows and doesn't include animated movies and TV shows. I've watched Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, The Defenders, The Punisher, and Inhumans. I watched the pilot episode of Jessica Jones but it was so boring and crappy I stopped watching that. That's alright. JJ deals with mature themes such as rape and PTSD. Stuff you couldn't even remotely comprehend or understand.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 28, 2019 1:46:17 GMT
Two episodes to go and I think it's officially passed Daredevil as my favorite Netflix show. Season 3 of Daredevil still set the high bar for me. I'd rate it DD-S3 > JJ-S1 > DD-S1 > JJ-S3 > JJ-S2 > DD-S2 The Punisher was the only interesting story arc for me in Season 2 of Daredevil, but beyond that, I didn't care much for the Hand or Elektra.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 28, 2019 11:48:21 GMT
Two episodes to go and I think it's officially passed Daredevil as my favorite Netflix show. Season 3 of Daredevil still set the high bar for me. I'd rate it DD-S3 > JJ-S1 > DD-S1 > JJ-S3 > JJ-S2 > DD-S2 The Punisher was the only interesting story arc for me in Season 2 of Daredevil, but beyond that, I didn't care much for the Hand or Elektra. Yeah I think what gives JJ the edge for me overall was I really enjoyed all three seasons. DD season 2 was a bit of a mess. Matt is probably tied with Cap for my favorite MCU character, though.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 28, 2019 12:43:12 GMT
Finished it last night. (Spoilers ahead) Trish has one of the most fascinating arcs in tv history. Since the Netflix universe is dead, I'm using head canon to imagine Madani from Punisher recruiting Trish into black ops the way she tried to do with Frank at the end of Punisher season 2. And of course Trish accepts the offer.
Looking back on everything, Jessica has maybe the most depressing story in the MCU. Her family is killed in an accident; she gets brainwashed and raped by Kilgrave; she finds out her mother is alive but is a maniac; her mother is KILLED right in front of her by her best friend; she nearly gets killed by a serial killer; she defeats serial killer but not before he kills her adoptive mother and turns her adoptive sister into a psychotic killer in her own right; her adoptive sister tries to kill her. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, Jess also has to live with the fact that she killed Luke's wife while under Kilgrave's control, and killed Kilgrave himself in order to stop his rampage. I mean, damn. All this and the finale still has her marching back into the city to face her demons and try to make the world a better place.
I can't believe how well this show was written. It wasn't perfect, but more than any other Netflix Marvel show, it understood what it was and what it wanted to do from start to finish in all three seasons. The supporting cast could carry its own show, I'm convinced of this. Malcolm, Hogarth, Trish, Dorothy, even new addition Gillian were compelling characters that kept the audience engaged even in the absence of the title character. Jeri Hogarth is such an incredible character. You hate her but you respect her, you want her to succeed and fail at the same time. Her final scene with Kith says it all. They walk into the apartment embracing and I thought to myself, "Jeri does not deserve this happy ending." Then in that same scene, Kith decided to leave her and I couldn't believe they did that to Jeri lol. That's how great that character really was. Talk about a love/hate relationship. I even appreciated how they kept her motives ambiguous at the end. As Kith walks out, Jeri says, "You're the last mistake I'll ever make." Does she mean that because she's dying of ALS, or is she implying that she almost became a servant of the 'greater good' because of Kith, but now she's snapped back to reality, where it's her against the world? We'll never know, that's the best part.
As I said earlier, Trish getting recruited by Madani is so obvious it should've been a post-credit scene. I'd watch the hell out of that show. Who knows where this story could've gone if it hadn't been canceled?
RIP Netflix universe. There were a few misses (Iron Fist didn't understand the source material; Daredevil season 2 was all over the place; Punisher was mostly a bore for me), but when it was on, it was as good as it gets for television. Even the bad shows had interesting characters even if the writing made no sense at times. I don't think I can name an uninteresting or poorly acted supporting character in any of these shows, it isn't their fault if the overarching storyline came unraveled at times. I don't even think Finn Jones was the problem with Iron Fist; the writing on that show was simply atrocious.
So yeah, hell of a show. Wish we could see Ritter reprise her role on the big screen or on Disney Plus, but it doesn't sound like that's going to happen. As with Charlie Cox or Chris Evans or RDJ, Krysten Ritter IS Jessica Jones for me. She nailed that role, and if they come up with new material for the screen, anyone else will just be doing a poor impression of her work.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jun 28, 2019 12:55:04 GMT
Finished it last night. (Spoilers ahead) Trish has one of the most fascinating arcs in tv history. Since the Netflix universe is dead, I'm using head canon to imagine Madani from Punisher recruiting Trish into black ops the way she tried to do with Frank at the end of Punisher season 2. And of course Trish accepts the offer. Looking back on everything, Jessica has maybe the most depressing story in the MCU. Her family is killed in an accident; she gets brainwashed and raped by Kilgrave; she finds out her mother is alive but is a maniac; her mother is KILLED right in front of her by her best friend; she nearly gets killed by a serial killer; she defeats serial killer but not before he kills her adoptive mother and turns her adoptive sister into a psychotic killer in her own right; her adoptive sister tries to kill her. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, Jess also has to live with the fact that she killed Luke's wife while under Kilgrave's control, and killed Kilgrave himself in order to stop his rampage. I mean, damn. All this and the finale still has her marching back into the city to face her demons and try to make the world a better place. I can't believe how well this show was written. It wasn't perfect, but more than any other Netflix Marvel show, it understood what it was and what it wanted to do from start to finish in all three seasons. The supporting cast could carry its own show, I'm convinced of this. Malcolm, Hogarth, Trish, Dorothy, even new addition Gillian were compelling characters that kept the audience engaged even in the absence of the title character. Jeri Hogarth is such an incredible character. You hate her but you respect her, you want her to succeed and fail at the same time. Her final scene with Kith says it all. They walk into the apartment embracing and I thought to myself, "Jeri does not deserve this happy ending." Then in that same scene, Kith decided to leave her and I couldn't believe they did that to Jeri lol. That's how great that character really was. Talk about a love/hate relationship. I even appreciated how they kept her motives ambiguous at the end. As Kith walks out, Jeri says, "You're the last mistake I'll ever make." Does she mean that because she's dying of ALS, or is she implying that she almost became a servant of the 'greater good' because of Kith, but now she's snapped back to reality, where it's her against the world? We'll never know, that's the best part. As I said earlier, Trish getting recruited by Madani is so obvious it should've been a post-credit scene. I'd watch the hell out of that show. Who knows where this story could've gone if it hadn't been canceled? RIP Netflix universe. There were a few misses (Iron Fist didn't understand the source material; Daredevil season 2 was all over the place; Punisher was mostly a bore for me), but when it was on, it was as good as it gets for television. Even the bad shows had interesting characters even if the writing made no sense at times. I don't think I can name an uninteresting or poorly acted supporting character in any of these shows, it isn't their fault if the overarching storyline came unraveled at times. I don't even think Finn Jones was the problem with Iron Fist; the writing on that show was simply atrocious. So yeah, hell of a show. Wish we could see Ritter reprise her role on the big screen or on Disney Plus, but it doesn't sound like that's going to happen. As with Charlie Cox or Chris Evans or RDJ, Krysten Ritter IS Jessica Jones for me. She nailed that role, and if they come up with new material for the screen, anyone else will just be doing a poor impression of her work. I couldn't have said this any better myself; you summed it up perfectly. This was my favorite of the Netflix shows since S1, and remained so thru all three seasons. While I disagree with you some on Hogarth (for me it wasn't love/hate, I simply despised that bitch!), I couldn't agree more about the rest of your thoughts. When the final shot faded, with Jessica marching tall and strong back into the city, my only thought was "Damn, I'm going to miss this mini-universe."
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 28, 2019 13:05:33 GMT
Oh and Trish's song, "I want your Cray Cray" takes on a whole new meaning now. I wonder if they were planning this turn all along or if that's where the story took them organically after season 2?
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 28, 2019 13:33:43 GMT
I can't fully explain it, but I completely lost interest in that little universe. I watched the first season of this show, and first two of Daredevil - liked both - and had zero interest in going any further. I found them both well-done and boring/drab. I'd be watching a fight scene and was like "Wow!" and 15 minutes later was like "Is this over yet?" Felt that way about the storylines too. They always started out ok, but felt tiresome by the end. Then I gave The Punisher a chance, which I didn't like (didn't even finish) and simply stopped watching the shows.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jun 28, 2019 18:32:41 GMT
Something I posted on another thread:
I know I will be in the huge minority here, but I think season three is the best season. It was fantastic from beginning to end. Most of these Netflix Marvel shows drag near the end because of the 13 episodes. I never got that here. I was hooked throughout. One thing I like about this show is how non-descript and not PC it is. The show stars two females playing superheroes and it is never really a focal point. The show is written where you can replace both of them with guys and it would be exactly the same, pretty much. I love that. Everyone is just a well written character and it does not matter what race or sex they are. I feel the same way with the sexual relationships. Jessica's assistant is a transgender but no one cares. It is never highlighted. She is just a fun side character. Hogarth and Detective Artie Boukou are both gay, yet their relationships are treated just like straight relationships. There is never some cringeworthy SJW PC scene making it a focal point like every other show does today. This show is a perfect example of how all shows should be written today in my opinion. Just have great characters doing normal character things. Their race, sex, and sexuality do not matter.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 28, 2019 19:08:27 GMT
One burning question I have regarding season 3: What was up with Costa's hat? It looked like someone else on set walked up behind him and put a hat on his head without him knowing, and they just kept shooting the scene anyway. I think it was unintentional comedy that maybe only I noticed, but it struck me as odd and quite funny.
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