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Post by clusium on Apr 10, 2017 0:58:05 GMT
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 10, 2017 18:13:49 GMT
Both great movies.
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Post by clusium on Apr 10, 2017 19:54:21 GMT
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 12, 2017 22:37:43 GMT
It would be impossible to overestimate the risibility of Charlton Heston’s screamingly funny performance in “The Ten Commandments.” Heston could give a restrained performance is he really wanted to or if he had a director who could tone him down. See “Will Penny” (1967). Also, Heston’s Player King in Kenneth Branaugh’s “Hamlet” is surprisingly, shockingly good. But, for the most part, he mugged and growled and hammed it up and got paid handsomely for it.
Also, just being in the production of “The Ten Commandments” brought out the worst in everybody. Anne Baxter never needed anyone to tell her to “give it more” so she matches Heston in silly lines. And poor Eddie G. Robinson, one of my favorite actors, just about sank a 30 year career as the ranting Dathan. How Yul Brynner escaped this debacle with his dignity still intact is a wonder. But, then, he was always a rebel. He plays his scenes as if he had actually come up with a character to play and was trying to breathe life into a human being. That was all wrong for “The Ten Commandments.” One decent performance among the cast of thousands would really seem out of place. Shame on Brynner for ruining it for everybody else by being a good actor.
As for a Christian, or even vaguely religious, message – well, there is none. No message, Christian or otherwise. It is a wide-screen, all-your-favorite-stars-committing-all-your-favorite-sins, kitsch-o-rama whose only purpose was to get people out from in front of those new-fangled TV sets and back into movie theaters before all the traditional studios went under. “The Ten Commandments” is a crassly commercial movie designed to sucker the more naïve audiences of the late 1950s. Among those suckers were my parents – and me. They took me – a sixth grader – to see the first run of “The Ten Commandments” in a big city downtown theater built in the early 1930s with the ornate lobby, huge lower floor auditorium, double balcony and stars in the ceiling. It is one of the greatest movie going experiences of my childhood. It was about 10 years later, toward the end of my undergraduate college years, that I saw it again. I was embarrassed, mortified, that even as a 10 year old I had been so knocked out by it. I have not changed my perception since then. It is a terrible movie. Charlton Heston (and the rest of the cast except for Yul) is terrible in it.
I would not go see “The Passion of the Christ” even for money. If someone held a gun on me to force me to go, I would invite them to shoot. The film represents everything that is bad, awful, and not good in fundamentalist Christian theology. Mel Gibson may be a good film stylist but that is not nearly enough to lure me in. I have to give the production company credit, however, for inventing a new successful way to get large audiences to come to their terrible movies: they marketed them straight to fundie churches and even encouraged the churches to load their parishioners onto busses and bring them to the theater – which the churches did. Later films also scored big by following that model.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 0:16:00 GMT
I respectfully disagree. The movie captured the stories in the Gospels in a very artful way, but there wasn't any kind of agenda to it, or a fundamentalist lean. Jesus and his disciples were finally depicted as what they were: Jewish. Jesus was also portrayed as every bit of the man he was while also being the Jewish Messiah. It wasn't like every movie before it where Jesus was British and an emotionless automaton.
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Post by london777 on Apr 15, 2017 23:11:56 GMT
It wasn't like every movie before it where Jesus was British and an emotionless automaton. Oi!!!! I take exception to that! I am not an emotionless automaton and I have a daughter to prove it. Anyway, anybody with half an education knows that God is British (or English to be more precise) and that the Queen is his representative on Earth. You are even factually wrong in your cinematic history: The following played Jesus and are not British. Some of them would be lucky to get a Tourist Visa to the UK: Rodrigo Santoro (Ben-Hur) 2016 Diogo Morgado (Son of God) 2014 and (The Bible) 2013 Ahmad Soleimani Nia (The Messiah) 2007 Fabrizio Bucci (The Inquiry L'inchiesta) 2006 Pablo Moreno (Jesús, el Peregrino de la Luz) 2006 Johannes Brandrup (San Pietro) 2005 Jonathan Scarfe (Judas) 2004 Jeremy Sisto (Jesus) 1999 Bruce Marchiano (The Visual Bible: Matthew) 1997 and Acts (1994) Willem Dafoe (The Last Temptation of Christ) 1988 He is American, but if I were Jesus I would model myself on Willem Dafoe. Chris Sarandon (The Day Christ Died) 1980 Zalman King (The Passover Plot) 1976 Pier Maria Rossi (Il messia) 1975 Ted Neeley (Jesus Christ Superstar) 1973 Victor Garber (Godspell) 1973 I cannot be bothered to check back further, but can immediately think of Donald Sutherland, Max von Sydow, and Jeffrey Hunter as non-Brit Jesuses. So hardly "every movie". Or was that an "alternative fact"? A piece of advice for you. I would not go around claiming Jesus was Jewish. Once Trump has finished with the Russians, the Koreans, and the Mexican rapists, he will enforce the belief that Jesus was a pure white Aryan from a bloodline related to Trump's. Dissenters will be crucified.
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